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gab13by13

(29,873 posts)
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 07:59 AM 16 hrs ago

Sorry But America Disgraced Itself At The Ryder Cup

Last edited Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:57 AM - Edit history (1)

Not even talking about the poor golfing, I'm talking about the ignorant insults hurled at Rory McIlroy and his family.

A constant barrage of F bombs and other vulgarities was bad enough, but insults about his marriage, about his family was a disgrace.

A dozen or more police had to be called in to be a buffer between Rory and the ignorant crowd, even the USA golfers tried to tone down the chants.

USA USA, well count me out, I started rooting for Rory.

A lot of other ignorant shouts that I care not to report about.

This may end up being the largest drubbing that any Ryder Cup team gets, and the US was the favorite. Maybe the atmosphere was ugly because Krasnov showed up the first day for his photo-op?

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Sorry But America Disgraced Itself At The Ryder Cup (Original Post) gab13by13 16 hrs ago OP
Sucks when a Major Ass like Trump kicks things off UFC style Champp 16 hrs ago #1
American crowds have been misbehaving at the Ryder Cup for years. Gimpyknee 15 hrs ago #29
No apologies accepted for the Republican MAGA whiners and grovelers Champp 14 hrs ago #56
What apologies? Gimpyknee 13 hrs ago #74
Watched yesterday until 3:00. NBC must be filtering them out underpants 16 hrs ago #2
Agree but the golf is also a disgrace Shrek 16 hrs ago #3
Americans typically don't do teamwork very well in Ryder Cups nitpicked 15 hrs ago #35
I'm not unhappy that the US is getting our assess kicked chicoescuela 14 hrs ago #53
The only golf that markodochartaigh 16 hrs ago #4
Because he is good. Kingofalldems 2 hrs ago #90
Rory McIlroy shows frustration with crowd in putt build-up at Ryder Cup - Golf Channel Goonch 16 hrs ago #5
From Golf Digest bronxiteforever 16 hrs ago #9
Why were people behaving this way towards this golfer? 3catwoman3 15 hrs ago #14
This message was self-deleted by its author raccoon 15 hrs ago #18
The US team vs The European team. Swede 15 hrs ago #36
"Alcohol mixed with entitlement." Kid Berwyn 14 hrs ago #50
Third. rubbersole 14 hrs ago #54
These Assholes Should Have Been Immediately Ejected from the Course and Permanently Banned The Roux Comes First 4 hrs ago #88
That would have happened at the Masters mdbl 2 hrs ago #92
I'd like to know what happened to the Alliepoo 15 hrs ago #28
The Ryder Cup is a different animal Shrek 15 hrs ago #39
Wait until the hockey fans find out about this golf thing Submariner 13 hrs ago #69
Hey, let's turn golf into a contact sport! Wednesdays 8 hrs ago #82
"Maybe the atmosphere was ugly because Krasnov showed up..." J_William_Ryan 16 hrs ago #6
The atmosphere at the Ryder Cup has been ugly for years. Gimpyknee 15 hrs ago #33
It's who we've become D_Master81 16 hrs ago #7
Sadly... 2naSalit 15 hrs ago #13
I appreciate your firsthand account Alice Kramden 15 hrs ago #24
I didn't know this either Nittersing 15 hrs ago #32
It's absolutely sickening. Alliepoo 15 hrs ago #31
Working in customer seevice D_Master81 13 hrs ago #72
Americans' new motto: "You're not the boss of me!" Wednesdays 8 hrs ago #83
European soccer fans make open racist chants EdmondDantes_ 1 hr ago #95
trmp has empowered every asshole in America. spanone 16 hrs ago #8
Crowds have been disrespectful and unruly for years at the Ryder Cup. Gimpyknee 15 hrs ago #40
spanone has it right. Totally Tunsie 10 hrs ago #81
From Arnie's Army to Trump's Trash... sop 16 hrs ago #10
That is it!!! He pushes hate to stay in power. rainy 14 hrs ago #59
Tacky of me, I know, but I have to laugh every time I see one of his niyad 13 hrs ago #66
That's Trump's official presidential portrait. sop 13 hrs ago #73
Dear Goddess, that makes it even more ridiculously absurd. niyad 13 hrs ago #77
And I thought this was strange, the USA players are getting $500,000 each. Europe is not getting any money. a kennedy 16 hrs ago #11
Disgraceful. The blob has made this sport a disgrace. peacebuzzard 15 hrs ago #12
To be fair. This has gone on for a decade or more Melon 2 hrs ago #93
Fucking dump ruins everything! North Shore Chicago 15 hrs ago #15
Have you been watching the Ryder Cup? Gimpyknee 15 hrs ago #41
I have not been watching this year. North Shore Chicago 14 hrs ago #48
Fans have hurled insults at the Ryder Cup for years. Gimpyknee 14 hrs ago #47
This message was self-deleted by its author lildDemz 15 hrs ago #16
Everything is political even golf. tetedur 15 hrs ago #17
The cash thing as well. OneBlueDotS-Carolina 15 hrs ago #19
Justin Thomas is definitely MAGA as are Scheffler, DeChambeau and Burns for sure Wiz Imp 15 hrs ago #30
Americans no longer have to travel overseas to be "Ugly Americans". Buns_of_Fire 15 hrs ago #20
Trump America embarrassed itself. (Again) aeromanKC 15 hrs ago #21
This behavior is a direct result Henry203 15 hrs ago #22
It shows Abstractartist 15 hrs ago #23
Golf? Conjuay 15 hrs ago #25
it boggles my mind anyone would want to watch golf Skittles 6 hrs ago #87
What a f'en disgrace and embarrassment. Gimpyknee 15 hrs ago #26
Several Players did try TheDemsshouldhireme 15 hrs ago #34
Yep. American ugly on display for Alliepoo 15 hrs ago #38
The Europeans should boycott it next time it is here. Ferrets are Cool 15 hrs ago #27
I don't understand. Why the hostility towards the Irish Ilsa 15 hrs ago #37
Sounded like a MAGA crowd. Boorish, juvenile, and bullying. surfered 14 hrs ago #42
Absolutely embarrassing róisín_dubh 14 hrs ago #43
MC behind vile Rory McIlroy chant at Ryder Cup unmasked as she quits job and issues grovelling apology Wiz Imp 14 hrs ago #44
Heather McMahan (since the Record didn't give her first name for some reason) muriel_volestrangler 14 hrs ago #55
I am astonished dsc 14 hrs ago #63
I can accept a "rowdy" crowd in the Ryder Cup - it seems unnecessary to add a "warm up" act here muriel_volestrangler 14 hrs ago #64
Keegan Bradley has refused to call out the New York mob who hounded Europe's stars. Wiz Imp 14 hrs ago #45
Yup, sounds like a real gentleman's sport. Buddyzbuddy 14 hrs ago #46
Only when gentlemen play it Walleye 14 hrs ago #58
the greenest of jealousy. Skill, culture, good looking and not American. Tetrachloride 14 hrs ago #49
Super. Next up - how to turn a golf tournament into a late 1980s British football riot . . . hatrack 14 hrs ago #51
Um, like Britain as the "Land of Assholes" whathehell 7 hrs ago #85
I don't understand the politicizing of this issue. Gimpyknee 14 hrs ago #52
Trump's America. Walleye 14 hrs ago #57
Trump ruined our chance. And America sucks right now. BradBo 14 hrs ago #60
Golf is like watching paint dry, IMO. tavernier 14 hrs ago #61
I know a guy who graduated college with a civil engineering degree and got a job with the Department of Transportation. spike jones 13 hrs ago #65
As long as it pays the student loans tavernier 10 hrs ago #79
Golf is like Cricket PJMcK 13 hrs ago #68
Everything Trump Touches Dies DinahMoeHum 14 hrs ago #62
There's even a book about Krasnov and golf not fooled 13 hrs ago #75
An excellent book! (n/t) PJMcK 12 hrs ago #78
"...(driving on greens doesn't help)..." Wednesdays 8 hrs ago #84
I don't follow golf. So American golf spectators are behaving like Scottish soccer hooligans? Ocelot II 13 hrs ago #67
Something else they did was ignorant, gab13by13 13 hrs ago #70
I believe Rebl2 13 hrs ago #71
America disgraced itself when it elected Trump. n/t CousinIT 13 hrs ago #76
Golf culture, always conservative even in the best of times, has become MAGA trash Prairie Gates 10 hrs ago #80
Sorry, but America is hardly the only country to whathehell 7 hrs ago #86
It's not a competition and this thread is about the Ryder Cup. BannonsLiver 3 hrs ago #89
Similar behavior at the US Open this year too mdbl 2 hrs ago #91
Most of the problem could be fixed if they just stopped serving booze. LudwigPastorius 1 hr ago #94

Champp

(2,153 posts)
1. Sucks when a Major Ass like Trump kicks things off UFC style
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:03 AM
16 hrs ago

Everyone (except those on their knees kissing his Republican ASS) know that Trump is a cowardly and dishonorable VULGAR bully.

He perverts the energy to "Republican Sick and Sinful" wherever his Pedo Protecting Posterior waddles.

Sad that Republicans have done this to our once Great America.

Champp

(2,153 posts)
56. No apologies accepted for the Republican MAGA whiners and grovelers
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:12 AM
14 hrs ago

They should take their unmanly whining and losing to the Republican National Convention where it will be celebrated.

underpants

(193,234 posts)
2. Watched yesterday until 3:00. NBC must be filtering them out
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:04 AM
16 hrs ago

because I didn’t hear any but you could see that it was happening. Lowry sank a birdie putt and said something directly to the jerk razzing Rory.

On Twitter I’ve heard it though. Horrible stuff.

nitpicked

(1,368 posts)
35. Americans typically don't do teamwork very well in Ryder Cups
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:34 AM
15 hrs ago

Let's see if they make the final score a little less lopsided. Or not.

chicoescuela

(2,354 posts)
53. I'm not unhappy that the US is getting our assess kicked
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:09 AM
14 hrs ago

Sadly we need this humiliation on the world stage.
We really suck right now.

markodochartaigh

(4,161 posts)
4. The only golf that
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:19 AM
16 hrs ago

I have ever watched was in the movie "Caddyshack", so please forgive my ignorance. Why were they hassling Rory McIlroy?

bronxiteforever

(10,790 posts)
9. From Golf Digest
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:32 AM
16 hrs ago

Ryder Cup 2025: Walking with Rory McIlroy amid the shower of F-bombs and abuse as Bethpage crowd crosses a line
By JOEL BEALL
SEPTEMBER 27, 2025
FARMINGDALE, N.Y. — The backstroke was aborted as a “F*** YOU RORY” arose from the right side of the fourth green… What made the scene shocking was not its divergence from what golf is, but that it had become the status quo for what McIlroy suffered throughout Saturday afternoon.

…He walked toward the green to mark his ball, taunts erupted from spectators lining Round Swamp Road. "Choker!" they screamed in unison. "Remember Pinehurst!" The grandstands flanking the green transformed into a countdown timer, fans bellowing numbers as McIlroy deliberated over his birdie putt. "You're taking too damn long!" one roared, attempting to weaponize their own impatience. When McIlroy's attempt slid past the cup, the cheers exploded into slurs: "Leprechaun!" "Overrated!" “Take out the Irish trash!”

… The European team had arrived prepared, boasting about VR headset training sessions designed to simulate crowd hostility. They claimed to be ready for the worst. But no simulation could replicate the toxic alchemy at work here: alcohol mixed with entitlement, rudeness fused with xenophobia.
As the group made the turn to the back nine, the match was deadlocked at all square. But if the front nine was any indication of what lay ahead, what was transpiring at Bethpage was no longer golf.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/ryder-cup-2025-rory-mcilroy-saturday-fans

3catwoman3

(27,787 posts)
14. Why were people behaving this way towards this golfer?
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:51 AM
15 hrs ago

I don’t follow golf, so know nothing about him
.

Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #14)

The Roux Comes First

(1,856 posts)
88. These Assholes Should Have Been Immediately Ejected from the Course and Permanently Banned
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:39 PM
4 hrs ago

It's bad enough to have a convicted criminal with the emotional skills of a toddler gluing glitter all over the White Houuse. We don't need to have all these pitiful yam-worshippers out in public.

Alliepoo

(2,738 posts)
28. I'd like to know what happened to the
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:29 AM
15 hrs ago

Respectful quiet of the spectators that used to be? None of the talking, jeering etc that is now part of spectating. And when did it become acceptable for the crowd to act like they’re at a football game? It’s ridiculous.

Shrek

(4,314 posts)
39. The Ryder Cup is a different animal
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:39 AM
15 hrs ago

It's a team event of USA vs. Europe so the fanbases are in direct opposition. It's always been a little raucous but it's gotten a lot worse in the last 20 years or so.

I attended the 2014 event in Scotland and endured a bit of heckling from the Euro fans, but nothing like I saw yesterday.

Submariner

(13,138 posts)
69. Wait until the hockey fans find out about this golf thing
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 11:06 AM
13 hrs ago

my Bruins fans friends probably would have been throwing a Cod or Octopus out onto the green, to support the home team and liven things up in an otherwise dull game.

D_Master81

(2,218 posts)
7. It's who we've become
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:23 AM
16 hrs ago

Last edited Sun Sep 28, 2025, 11:23 AM - Edit history (1)

I’m not surprised, that’s what America has kinda become.

2naSalit

(97,889 posts)
13. Sadly...
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:50 AM
15 hrs ago

It IS what we've become. I worked in and around a major national park for decades and I saw the profile of the average tourist go from respectful and interested in the environment they were visiting to complete assholes as were on display at this golf event. Seriously, this is how they treat uniformed park rangers and other employees. Been that way since about the middle of Obama's 2 terms. It got so bad since 2016 that I decided to leave the region and get away from that sort of social nightmare.

Alice Kramden

(2,789 posts)
24. I appreciate your firsthand account
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:23 AM
15 hrs ago

I didn't know that American behavior had devolved so much - guess I don't get around much anymore

Nittersing

(7,642 posts)
32. I didn't know this either
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:32 AM
15 hrs ago

I've always lived in blue areas... guess I've been pretty shielded.

D_Master81

(2,218 posts)
72. Working in customer seevice
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 11:28 AM
13 hrs ago

I can attest to this as well. Don’t know what happened to cause it but people seem so entitled these days. If you don’t do things like they want at a price they think is fair they will yell at our guys or take to social media to air their grievances. Obviously this is still the vocal minority but it’s growing.

Wednesdays

(20,820 posts)
83. Americans' new motto: "You're not the boss of me!"
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:18 PM
8 hrs ago

Seen especially during the pandemic.

EdmondDantes_

(948 posts)
95. European soccer fans make open racist chants
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:58 PM
1 hr ago

It's not just Americans who have learned to be lousy in sports.

spanone

(140,275 posts)
8. trmp has empowered every asshole in America.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:23 AM
16 hrs ago

Given them the right to be the pricks they are and to insult our allies at will.

They respect nothing.

Gimpyknee

(714 posts)
40. Crowds have been disrespectful and unruly for years at the Ryder Cup.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:41 AM
15 hrs ago

It’s time to put an end to this event.

Totally Tunsie

(11,270 posts)
81. spanone has it right.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 02:10 PM
10 hrs ago

trump has made it the acceptable norm to spew hatred and ignorance. It permeates everything. ETTD

niyad

(127,525 posts)
66. Tacky of me, I know, but I have to laugh every time I see one of his
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:50 AM
13 hrs ago

practiced, glowering, menacing images. He thinks he looks tough and manly, instead he looks ridiculous and phony.

a kennedy

(34,505 posts)
11. And I thought this was strange, the USA players are getting $500,000 each. Europe is not getting any money.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:45 AM
16 hrs ago

The USA players are required to donate $300,000, but they do keep the remaining $200,000.

peacebuzzard

(5,665 posts)
12. Disgraceful. The blob has made this sport a disgrace.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:48 AM
15 hrs ago

Once peaceful & tranquil; this sport has now been trashed.
I have not been keeping up with this sport; now, it is pointless and a shame. OMG.

Melon

(795 posts)
93. To be fair. This has gone on for a decade or more
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:09 PM
2 hrs ago

Getting worse each year. Europeans also hackle the American players and chant. They just have more decorum on the putting greens.

North Shore Chicago

(4,197 posts)
15. Fucking dump ruins everything!
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:54 AM
15 hrs ago

"Rory McIlroy's wife Erica Stoll was left in tears at the Ryder Cup after a drink was allegedly thrown at her by rowdy spectators. McIlroy faced relentless heckling from Team USA fans during Saturday's four-ball match with team-mate Shane Lowry. The 36-year-old golfer, who is no stranger to hostile chants and abuse from American spectators, initially responded by sarcastically blowing them kisses."

I have been following golf for years, the folks who followed players were NEVER this grotesque and mean-spirited! Following John Daly in a few tournaments back in the 90's, there was never this level of poor sportsmanship!

This country is a cesspool now. Thanks president vomit.

Gimpyknee

(714 posts)
41. Have you been watching the Ryder Cup?
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:45 AM
15 hrs ago

This unruly crowd behavior has been going on for years. More so since USA has been getting ass kicked.

North Shore Chicago

(4,197 posts)
48. I have not been watching this year.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:04 AM
14 hrs ago

I am speaking of the deterioration of civility in golf fans for a while now. I mention John Daly, because as a guy who could get under your skin, I never saw the push back from fans as I see now. Fuzzy Zoeller, who mocked Tiger Woods with talk about eating watermelon never was retaliated against like Rory. Rory is also one of the few PGA golfers who leans Democratic in his views. My point was, golf use to be my go-to for decent behavior by fans, no longer.

Gimpyknee

(714 posts)
47. Fans have hurled insults at the Ryder Cup for years.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:01 AM
14 hrs ago

The 2016 event at Hazeltine comes to mind. Rory and Sergio were especially targeted by unruly fans. Really ugly American stuff.

Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

tetedur

(1,352 posts)
17. Everything is political even golf.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:59 AM
15 hrs ago

No matter who wins, does the world change? No.
Golf and all sports, in my opinion, is entertainment, a game where people can exercise their skills and others watch for vicarious thrills.
I don't understand the hostility exhibited by the crowd. Why were they ugly to the guy? Don't the players deserve respect for their skills?
Is there some underlying dispute going on between USA and the UK?
If a team wins, does that mean that they have won some sort of political victory? Does it mean that the country they are from is more righteous, or powerful, or admirable than the losing team?

Or is the game just an opportunity for unsportsmanlike people to show their ass to the world?

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,469 posts)
19. The cash thing as well.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:02 AM
15 hrs ago

During the last Ryder cup in Rome, one player refused to wear a USA branded hat, complaining that they should get paid. This time around the USA team members get $500K each, they asked team Europe if they wanted to get paid, no thanks, we're playing for pride. Justin Thomas was egging the crowd on, as was captain Keegan Bradley. Imagine paying $750 for a ticket, getting drunk on overpriced beer, then getting tossed for screaming insults at Rory. On the plus side, they got to see their MAGA gawd on Friday, after having to line up for hours due to added screening for the MAGA gawd. I'm sure the MAGA gawd demanded that team USA let him play as he has won many club championships....

Wiz Imp

(7,519 posts)
30. Justin Thomas is definitely MAGA as are Scheffler, DeChambeau and Burns for sure
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:31 AM
15 hrs ago

All the Americans are probably Republicans - there are very few Pro Golfers who support Democrats.

I will give Justin Thomas some slight credit though. He may have been egging the crowd on early, but once it got really bad, he was trying to get the crowd to quiet down for Rory to make his shots. Not to much credit though since he helped cause the issue himself.

I'm rooting for Tommy Fleetwood - one of the few pro golfers who has criticized Trump (and he was the most successful golfer on the course over the first 2 days winning all 4 of his matches)

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20680156

Buns_of_Fire

(18,778 posts)
20. Americans no longer have to travel overseas to be "Ugly Americans".
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:05 AM
15 hrs ago

And also thanks to the corrosive influence of this "president," the recipients of the ugliness no longer even have to be foreign or foreign-born. True equality, if you can stomach it.

aeromanKC

(3,725 posts)
21. Trump America embarrassed itself. (Again)
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:07 AM
15 hrs ago

This is the crowd that boooo'd Govoner Hocul and cheered Trump.

Henry203

(742 posts)
22. This behavior is a direct result
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:13 AM
15 hrs ago

Of the orange asshole. Rude and disrespectful. I ope we lose every match today.

Abstractartist

(341 posts)
23. It shows
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:16 AM
15 hrs ago

It shows just how united the European team is, vs the separatists USA team. The Euros travel together, eat together, many share homes and places on the tour, where the USA team travel separate, stay in rented homes mostly by themselves with their families, etc…. and this Ryder Cup shows the difference. The USA team does not look united under Bradley, don’t seem interested in the event, except for a select few.
Trump showing up didn’t help the N.Y. crowd either. Many hate him there, along with the endless supply of beer and other….

Gimpyknee

(714 posts)
26. What a f'en disgrace and embarrassment.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:25 AM
15 hrs ago

It’s time to put an end to the Ryder Cup. I’m pissed that American team players didn’t try to quiet the unruly crowd. Scream USA! USA! USA! as loud as you can but once again we’re getting our ass kicked. Americans at their ugliest.

34. Several Players did try
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:33 AM
15 hrs ago

like Justin Thomas. But is was a disgrace overall. Some comedian I believe named Heather Mcmahan had a bullhorn before the match and was leading the crowd with eff you Rory chants.

Ilsa

(63,336 posts)
37. I don't understand. Why the hostility towards the Irish
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:36 AM
15 hrs ago

guy and his wife? Why are they acting this way, and why haven't golf officials had them removed?

róisín_dubh

(12,139 posts)
43. Absolutely embarrassing
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:50 AM
14 hrs ago

And, as one of my mates said to me “this is the reason you lot are called ‘septics’.”
It’s not just the Cockney rhyming slang.
A lot of US sporting culture is fucking appalling. They can’t even do good sports banter

Wiz Imp

(7,519 posts)
44. MC behind vile Rory McIlroy chant at Ryder Cup unmasked as she quits job and issues grovelling apology
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:52 AM
14 hrs ago
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/golf/vile-rory-mcilroy-ryder-cup-35978423.amp

A club emerged on social media of the Master of Ceremonies urging the home fans to direct a foul-mouth chant at the European star

The Ryder Cup MC who caused a storm after leading Team USA fans in vulgar chants against Rory McIlroy has quit her tournament hosting role - and reportedly apologised to the Team Europe superstar.

The American actress and comedian was urging the raucous New York crowd to direct foul-mouthed chants towards the Northern Irishman and he endured relentless abuse at Bethpage Black while partnering Shane Lowry.

Organisers stepped in to address the hostile reception the 36-year-old faced, with messages on the big screens reminding spectators of proper conduct as police moved to eject troublesome supporters.

McMahan, though, fuelled the unruly atmosphere before the morning foursomes began, actively encouraging inappropriate behaviour. At the first tee, she was seen bellowing "F*** you Rory!" through a megaphone as those in the grandstands joined in.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,833 posts)
55. Heather McMahan (since the Record didn't give her first name for some reason)
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:11 AM
14 hrs ago
The comedian employed to warm up the crowd at the Ryder Cup has apologised and stepped down from her job before the final day’s play after she was recorded leading a foul-mouthed Rory McIlroy chant on the first tee on Saturday.

Heather McMahan apologised to McIlroy and Ryder Cup Europe for the remarks. It took the PGA of America 20 hours to address the incident, which happened before dawn on Saturday, inviting questions about whether they were quick enough to act.

McMahan had been employed to stoke up the crowd on the first tee in an attempt to build the atmosphere, and was using a megaphone to lead them in their chants. She tried to persuade them to join her in a chorus of “Scotty! Scotty! Scheffler!” to the tune of Queen’s We Will Rock You but was booed into abandoning the effort. “Fuck you Rory!” was more popular, and became a persistent chant throughout the day. McIlroy responded by blowing the crowd kisses when he came to the tee.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/sep/28/ryder-cup-mc-apologises-and-steps-down-over-foul-mouthed-rory-mcilroy-chant

dsc

(53,163 posts)
63. I am astonished
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:35 AM
14 hrs ago

I haven't watched golf in years but my dad was an avid fan so I recall watching in my youth and into adulthood. The notion of using a comedian to warm up a golf crowd seems down right bizarre.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,833 posts)
64. I can accept a "rowdy" crowd in the Ryder Cup - it seems unnecessary to add a "warm up" act here
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:44 AM
14 hrs ago

As the only major "team" event in golf, the "USA! USA!" etc. chants are fine, apart from when a player's about to strike the ball. And the kind of barracking like "you missed an easier putt than this last hole!" is fair (again, not when they're about to his the ball). The dumb "fuck you" stuff is bad; the insulting stuff about a player's wife is awful. But there's no way anyone official should be taking part in it.

Wiz Imp

(7,519 posts)
45. Keegan Bradley has refused to call out the New York mob who hounded Europe's stars.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:59 AM
14 hrs ago
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/golf/keegan-bradley-dumbfounds-ryder-cup-35977983?int_source=nba

Keegan Bradley dumbfounds Ryder Cup onlookers with astonishing response about the New York mob

It got so bad that PGA of America chiefs had to issue on-course messages, extra security was drafted in and police dogs were even beside greens.

Yet, instead of condemning the behaviour, Bradley opted to get involved in whataboutery and even attemped to draw comparisons with Rome two years ago.

Anger is one thing, but it has spilled into obscenity. Bradley ran the length of a fairway during practice waving an American flag and his players spent the summer telling Europe it would be wild, crazy and chaotic with Bryson DeChambeau even saying they wouldn’t be ready.

But any notions of taking even a shred of responsibility for the carnage didn’t register on Saturday night as he said: “Yeah, Ryder Cups are wild. I don’t appreciate those words that you just said. I know what you’re trying to do. The Ryder Cup is full of passionate fans.”

Buddyzbuddy

(1,561 posts)
46. Yup, sounds like a real gentleman's sport.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:59 AM
14 hrs ago

Never played, but I used to like watching for the beautiful serene settings. Then, I learned how exclusionary, masoginistic, and racist these clubs were/are. Sure some had to be dragged into the 20th Century, at the time, so no. It's a bunch of rich white guys that tolerate the "others". A place to get away from their wives, have private "man" time sometimes with little scantily clad bunnies to ogle and where "business deals" can be made without prying eyes and the guy with the most power, ie. money can cheat without a peep. Where one can hit a miraculous hole in one every other month and make himself a golf champion because he fills out a scorecard based on the honor system of which he's totally void of.

I'll bet it used to be a nice way to get some walking, social time in. What a shame. Everything he touches.

To you guys/gals that genuinely enjoy the sport, this is not directed to you. Please enjoy the game and for you couples that play together, more power to you.

Tetrachloride

(9,009 posts)
49. the greenest of jealousy. Skill, culture, good looking and not American.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:04 AM
14 hrs ago

okay that last part is not exactly jealousy

hatrack

(63,628 posts)
51. Super. Next up - how to turn a golf tournament into a late 1980s British football riot . . .
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:08 AM
14 hrs ago

It's all part of perfecting The New America - Land Of Assholes.

Gimpyknee

(714 posts)
52. I don't understand the politicizing of this issue.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:08 AM
14 hrs ago

This rude and boorish fan behavior has been going on for years at the Ryder Cup. It’s about time to end this event.

Walleye

(42,630 posts)
57. Trump's America.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:12 AM
14 hrs ago

If Trump would stand up and tell his fans to settle down, they would. But he just loves this crap.

tavernier

(13,972 posts)
61. Golf is like watching paint dry, IMO.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:28 AM
14 hrs ago

I might be tempted to get drunk too. Nah. I would better kill my time at a good movie or a walk on the beach.

I know nice MAGAs who would never be that rude. They just aren’t very informed. I’ve spent time with two over the past three years and they no longer support Trump, even came with me to protests. Just be patient and answer questions with verifiable facts. But I also know several who adore rump, regardless of truth. Can’t fix stupid.

spike jones

(1,965 posts)
65. I know a guy who graduated college with a civil engineering degree and got a job with the Department of Transportation.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:48 AM
13 hrs ago

His first task was testing the paint used for road markings. He spent a month getting paid good money by watching paint dry.

PJMcK

(24,250 posts)
68. Golf is like Cricket
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:52 AM
13 hrs ago

If you understand it, they're magnificent.

If you don't, you might as well watch yacht racing.

not fooled

(6,478 posts)
75. There's even a book about Krasnov and golf
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 11:34 AM
13 hrs ago
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41716956-commander-in-cheat]

Commander in Cheat: How Golf Explains Trump
Rick Reilly

An outrageous indictment of Donald Trump's appalling behavior when it comes to golf -- on and off the green -- and what it reveals about his character.

Donald Trump loves golf. He loves to play it, buy it, build it, and operate it. He owns 14 courses around the world and runs another five, all of which he insists are the best on the planet. He also claims he's a 3 handicap, almost never loses, and has won an astonishing 18 club championships.

How much of all that is true? Almost none of it, acclaimed sportswriter Rick Reilly reveals in this unsparing look at Trump in the world of golf.

Based on Reilly's own experiences with Trump as well as interviews with over 100 golf pros, amateurs, developers, and caddies, Commander in Cheat is a startling and at times hilarious indictment of Trump and his golf game. You'll learn how Trump cheats (sometimes with the help of his caddies and Secret Service agents), lies about his scores (the "Trump Bump&quot , tells whoppers about the rank of his courses and their worth (declaring that every one of them is worth $50 million), and tramples the etiquette of the game (driving on greens doesn't help). Trump doesn't brag so much, though, about the golf contractors he stiffs, the course neighbors he intimidates, or the way his golf decisions wind up infecting his political ones.


For Trump, it's always about winning. To do it, he uses the tricks he picked up from the hustlers at the public course where he learned the game as a college kid, and then polished as one of the most bombastic businessmen of our time. As Reilly writes, "Golf is like bicycle shorts. It reveals a lot about a man." Commander in Cheat "paints a side-splitting portrait of a congenital cheater" (Esquire), revealing all kinds of unsightly truths Trump has been hiding.

Wednesdays

(20,820 posts)
84. "...(driving on greens doesn't help)..."
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:38 PM
8 hrs ago

He drives on greens? Wouldn't using a putter be more appropriate?


Ocelot II

(127,439 posts)
67. I don't follow golf. So American golf spectators are behaving like Scottish soccer hooligans?
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:50 AM
13 hrs ago

That's pretty strange. I thought if you were watching golf you had to be vewwy, vewwy quiet.

gab13by13

(29,873 posts)
70. Something else they did was ignorant,
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 11:08 AM
13 hrs ago

Rory was going to get a divorce a while back but they reconciled and are back together, but a fan yelled, where did you and Shane and Erica sleep last night?

Prairie Gates

(6,347 posts)
80. Golf culture, always conservative even in the best of times, has become MAGA trash
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 02:06 PM
10 hrs ago

Lacking any class whatsoever, from the idiot fans to the players to the announcers. It is disgraceful, just as you say.

I used to enjoy watching the four majors and the Ryder Cup. Never again. It's cultish and scary and gross.

whathehell

(30,271 posts)
86. Sorry, but America is hardly the only country to
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 05:09 PM
7 hrs ago

"disgrace" itself during sporting events...Try the ugly anti-semitism displayed in the Israel -Netherlands game in 2024, and the violence resulting in injuries and death in a victory "celebration" in France just this year.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1321624-world-footballs-10-most-dangerous-fan-bases

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1321624-world-footballs-10-most-dangerous-fan-bases

BannonsLiver

(19,680 posts)
89. It's not a competition and this thread is about the Ryder Cup.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:32 PM
3 hrs ago

The whataboutism makes it look as though you are defending the fan behavior at the Ryder Cup.

mdbl

(7,446 posts)
91. Similar behavior at the US Open this year too
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:08 PM
2 hrs ago

The US is really breaking out the deplorables to make us look like morons on the world stage.

LudwigPastorius

(13,480 posts)
94. Most of the problem could be fixed if they just stopped serving booze.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 10:53 PM
1 hr ago

I guess it's better to have a drunken crowd beclown themselves on an international stage than it is to give up that sweet, sweet money.

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