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Another night of mass Russian attacks on Ukraine along with numerous incursions into NATO airspace and another day of muted response from the EU. I won't say NATO because Donnie Rotten's love affair with tyrant Putin has removed the U.S. from the equation.
The EU has a GDP ten times the size of Russia, so if they wake up and get serious they could bankrupt the Russian war machine in no time.
Why is the EU not gearing up for all out war with Putin and his cronies? They can either fight them in Ukraine now or fight them in eastern Europe later, but any realist knows that Putin wants to restore the old Soviet Empire and the only way to stop him is to bring the fight to Russia.
Look to 1938-1939 for direction.

Scrivener7
(57,301 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(9,132 posts)And, the amazing thing is, I do not have an answer for them!
JustAnotherGen
(37,106 posts)77 million Americans voted for that vile evil thing and they said loud and clear: Imperial Me.
We are a pathetic joke.
Dr. T
(413 posts)Like Rocky Balboa in the movie, America is down and teetering on the brink of self-destruction and can't muster a coherent defense strategy for itself, let alone Europe. Just like in the movie, America will eventually come to its senses. But, will it happen in time for a happy ending is the part we don't know.
Wicked Blue
(8,261 posts)bronxiteforever
(10,790 posts)carpetbagger
(5,371 posts)The highest ranking American officer in Europe will be an O-6 because Hegseth wants everyone at the dojo for his manly man ted talk.
Celerity
(52,142 posts)This part alone is especially galling:
All-out war between Russia and the EU means nukes will fly.

Why don't you get your own house internally in order before trying to lecture us over here and tell us to start directly down the path towards nuclear war.
De rec.
Gimpyknee
(708 posts)bronxiteforever
(10,790 posts)countermeasures are taking place.
niyad
(127,516 posts)Buddyzbuddy
(1,558 posts)As one we're unbeatable. As it is now, well, we have Putin's President Pudding Pop representing the United States of America. In other words TACO.
FakeNoose
(38,766 posts)The NATO countries are not all in Europe, so therefore they aren't all members of EU. Examples would be the US, Canada, and Turkey. They're bound together by pledges of mutual defense against a common enemy.
On the other hand EU countries are all in Europe and are geographically connected and economically bound together under a constitution. These countries are the most threatened by Putin's aggressive acts against Ukraine (and now Poland.) Until Chump came along they were looking to the US as a strong supporter and ally, but sadly, not any more.
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,671 posts)I was just about to say that I don't think there is an "EU military"...could be wrong about that.
Celerity
(52,142 posts)Security and Defence Policy (CSDP). Since no such unified army is currently established, defence is a matter for the member states individually. The member states are, however, bound by several obligations arising from international treaties, and they conduct several multinational initiatives.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_army
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,433 posts)Then compare the on paper strength to the reported on the ground strength. Then check their ability to project force themselves outside of their territories without US support. Thats why.