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drray23

(8,434 posts)
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:06 PM 14 hrs ago

So much for all the braggadocio about the military respecting their oath

I kept hearing that the military is loyal to the constitution and their oath to it. So far it has not panned out.
Just like everybody else they go along with the dictator. The latest example is the deployment of marines to Portland.
So much for all the huffing and puffing about upholding the oath.

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So much for all the braggadocio about the military respecting their oath (Original Post) drray23 14 hrs ago OP
Yep. Never trust the military or the police. Dr. Shepper 14 hrs ago #1
They are full of MAGA Blue Full Moon 12 hrs ago #6
Yeah. It's sad, but working with veterans every day, I have to say Maru Kitteh 14 hrs ago #2
I meet a large number of older vets in my job Orrex 11 hrs ago #9
Militarism has always been a key aspect of Authoritarianism. Lancero 13 hrs ago #3
Who knew the USA is just a house of cards? Irish_Dem 13 hrs ago #4
I said before,how shocked i was at how easy it was for these fuckers to bluestarone 12 hrs ago #7
Yes they use the laws to protect and enrich themselves. Irish_Dem 4 hrs ago #12
from the shores of montezuma to the bus boys in portland nt msongs 13 hrs ago #5
The military is NOT on the side of democracy angrychair 11 hrs ago #8
one has to be very careful NJCher 11 hrs ago #10
They, the military are not committing crimes, yet. Buddyzbuddy 11 hrs ago #11

Maru Kitteh

(30,706 posts)
2. Yeah. It's sad, but working with veterans every day, I have to say
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:13 PM
14 hrs ago

I I haven’t really seen anything that led me to believe they would disobey unlawful orders. Most of them will obey. We have relied upon thoughtful Presidents and leaders who cared enough about the country or at the very least, their own legacies, to ultimately obey the checks and balances built into the system. Trump knows this.



Orrex

(66,083 posts)
9. I meet a large number of older vets in my job
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:10 PM
11 hrs ago

The overwhelming majority of them absolutely worship Trump. And the more he shits on veterans and service personnel and gold star families, the more devout they become.

It's a fascinating and tragic pathology.

Lancero

(3,243 posts)
3. Militarism has always been a key aspect of Authoritarianism.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:24 PM
13 hrs ago

It's why so many people are up in arms about how the uniform somehow is inherently deserving of respect. Claiming that something deserves respect might as well be a demand - And if you have to demand respect, you never deserve it.

It's good to see that people are now opening their eyes to this, but it's a little to late given that we've been priming ourselves for a authoritarian takeover through military glorification for decades.

Irish_Dem

(75,316 posts)
4. Who knew the USA is just a house of cards?
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:27 PM
13 hrs ago

Everything and everyone folded like a cheap lawn chair for a mob boss president.
Congress, courts, military, universities, law firms, corporations, etc etc.

Our country was held together just by spit and a prayer.

bluestarone

(20,369 posts)
7. I said before,how shocked i was at how easy it was for these fuckers to
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 09:04 PM
12 hrs ago

Destroy us. They finally figured out that they do NOT have to go by the playbook,(constitution) while WE have to go by that playbook. (constitution)

Irish_Dem

(75,316 posts)
12. Yes they use the laws to protect and enrich themselves.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:59 AM
4 hrs ago

And to control and punish the rest of us.

angrychair

(11,172 posts)
8. The military is NOT on the side of democracy
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 09:47 PM
11 hrs ago

They will happily murder citizens just as easily as those innocent people on those boats off the coast of Venezuela. It's not complicated. It's literally right in our face.

NJCher

(41,536 posts)
10. one has to be very careful
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:12 PM
11 hrs ago

about defying orders in the military. In fact, the way you do it is be incompetent. You do not do it directly, even if the two civilians you report to are stark raving mad.

If you think the military can't see what a moron they have in charge, you insult their intelligence and their integrity. Furthermore, you are stereotyping them.

Buddyzbuddy

(1,549 posts)
11. They, the military are not committing crimes, yet.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:12 PM
11 hrs ago

They've not been issued an order that would require them to ignore it. Therfore, they must follow their command. Otherwise, there would be chaos and any organized refusal to follow orders could be tantamount to a coup. Does anybody here think that's where we are? I don't. We would all lose at this point in time. Let's keep our powder dry until if and when that moment comes.
Right now, he's testing the waters. Everybody from the citizenry, the military, politicians, police and judges to see reactions. He may be acting out like the vindictive child that he is but you can be sure, somebody else is pushing the buttons, taking notes about reactions and making the real plans. November of '26 might be when we see who is behind the curtain.

Meanwhile he's playing fast and loose with retribution, budget cuts and extorting the nation's institutions resulting in increasing disapproval and plummeting polls and insuring Republican defeat. In the end, they may be forced to take their own guy out. That's called a bloodless coup. How far down will Republicans allow the ship to sink before they jump?

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