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Why do headlines say "norms shattered" when what is meant is "laws broken" or "Constitution violated"?
— Timothy Snyder (@timothysnyder.bsky.social) 2025-09-26T17:32:52.758Z

EarthAbides
(371 posts)I am so sick of the headlines that make this all seem so normal! Like I wrote before when Kamala Harris said, "Trump LIED to you!" Not the fascist pig broke a campaign promise....
spooky3
(37,928 posts)Who is not very interested in politics, breaking norms or bucking tradition may sound like bold, necessary change, among other reasons to make this distinction.
markodochartaigh
(4,150 posts)who live in a bubble where the narrative that "the government is not the solution, the government is the problem" and "the government is controlled by left-wing politicians" breaking norms sounds like something that they would agree with.
NNadir
(36,646 posts)Cha
(314,605 posts)we're talking about.
TY and Thanks for pointing it out, Timothy Snyder.
erronis
(21,392 posts)Cha
(314,605 posts)someone told me it should be "enabling" so I listened.
But I think you're right.. the owners that demand covering for the Fascist Takeover.. Thanks in Big Part to them.. are the same.. they don't give one shit about American Democracy.
MadameButterfly
(3,581 posts)No one cares about norms.
They care about breaking the law and autocracy.
Breaking norms sounds like a new clothing fashion.
hay rick
(9,070 posts)It does reflect the reality that law-breaking that has been immunized by the Supreme Court or non-enforcement from the Department of Justice is effectively permitted.
BaronChocula
(3,376 posts)are afraid of white conservatives for whom they tread lightly. It's an American tradition.
BurnDoubt
(1,054 posts)and the"media's" reluctance to consult a thesaurus has emboldened and supported their deplorability.
Can't help thinking it's all about the MONEY.
BaronChocula
(3,376 posts)I friggin' detest cliches.
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kentuck
(114,710 posts)Blatant corruption.
moniss
(8,124 posts)markodochartaigh
(4,150 posts)The Overton Window is spinning so fast it is like watching clothes in a dryer.
liberalla
(10,705 posts)
crud
(1,072 posts)every time they refer to the criminal president or his unlawful actions...that they are criminal and unlawful. They need to refer to the corrupt president and his corrupt Whitehouse as being corrupt. The threats to government workers is political corruption, the indictment of Comy is political corruption. I could go on. Force the media to report THAT! Make it THE message and tell the media what you are doing, so they talk about how dems are accusing the felon, Trump of corruption. Then they can start exploring why they have made their message 'corruption" and if it will work. They will get corruption experts on the TEE VEE and ask them to explain what it all means. They will force the R's to defend the criminal president and try to excuse or deny that he is corrupt. that is how to win this shutdown battle too.
Kablooie
(18,984 posts)Like crimes are never committed, only alleged.
spooky3
(37,928 posts)thesquanderer
(12,780 posts)They can't say laws broken, if a court hasn't (yet) found that to be the case (presumption of innocence until proven guilty). Constitution violated is not a factual statement until/unless the Supreme Court says so, because they are the ultimate arbiter of that. So no reputable news source will headline with these statements which are technically/legally false.
"Alleged" can be a useful qualifier, but it doesn't so well communicate that we do know that we do know that a person did something. IOW, an alleged shooter communicates that there definitely was a shooter, we just don't know for sure that this person did it. But with Trump there is no doubt that he did the thing, the doubt is only about whether it indeed did actually break a law or would be found to be unconstitutional by the court.
It seems like there should be a neat, concise term for this, but I can't think of any.
agingdem
(8,654 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 26, 2025, 04:58 PM - Edit history (1)
Instead they say he misspoke/exaggerated/embellished
.and why does the media translate his toxic vomitus nonsense bullshit into thought provoking discourse?..
I say its the medias slavering need for access and their palpable fear of being exiled
malaise
(289,477 posts)Rec
travelingthrulife
(3,352 posts)Martin68
(26,518 posts)mdbl
(7,435 posts)So they just stoke fear in these weasel media companies.
Solly Mack
(95,774 posts)Buddyzbuddy
(1,554 posts)I just want the news. I don't need them to lean left or right, just report the facts. Don't get me started on broadcast news, jeez! I could live with FAUX because I knew what to expect but now all news strategizes the same. If it bleeds it leads. And it feels like I'm watching an old batman series, with all of the descriptors to get an emotional reaction such as "pow, slammed, bang, crushed, etc." Or "mislead instead of lied".
Just report the news without commentary.
I don't need to see a 2 hour car chase instead of the news and weather. The internet is not your competition, it's just another source of information. Report with accuracy, not speed.
SheltieLover
(73,903 posts)
drray23
(8,434 posts)When in fact it was a bold faced lie.
They appease the fascists because they control the media.
Frasier Balzov
(4,580 posts)And they won't refrain from reversing themselves when the next Democratic president wants to get things done for the common good.
yellow dahlia
(3,167 posts)CaptainTruth
(7,900 posts)They should be ashamed, but I doubt they ever will be.