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Botany

(75,365 posts)
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 07:53 AM Friday

Is Trump going to have a war on Venezuela very soon? It sure looks like it to me. Operation Epstein Hide.

The elusive ship built to carry US special operators is in the Caribbean

https://democraticunderground.com/100220676238



Hegseth orders rare, urgent meeting of numerous generals, admirals

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143536697

He really is a mad man. Btw he “won” because Musk and Theil were into the data. End of story.






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Is Trump going to have a war on Venezuela very soon? It sure looks like it to me. Operation Epstein Hide. (Original Post) Botany Friday OP
K&R spanone Friday #1
Who is going to fight it? DFW Friday #2
If Trump does attack Venezuela I hope nations worldwide recall their ambassadors and cut off the U.S. cold. Botany Friday #5
At least three boats now IbogaProject Friday #11
Ironically, I think that the one who would be most likely to put the brakes on that would be Rubio DFW Friday #12
Venezuela is a mess but how much of the mess is because of USA policy? PufPuf23 Friday #14
That won't get him any peace prize nt doc03 Friday #3
OECU top secret Emile Friday #4
bibi agrees Shellback Squid Friday #6
And Americans and Venezuelans will needlessly die. Swede Friday #7
Wagging the Dog. GoCubsGo Friday #8
Some Europeans hopeful he's taking a tougher stance against Russia.... Happy Hoosier Friday #9
Remember the Maine! v 2.0 Torchlight Friday #10
Are there still FOLs on Aruba and Curacao? PufPuf23 Friday #13

DFW

(58,999 posts)
2. Who is going to fight it?
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:18 AM
Friday

Venezuela is falling apart at the seams. The economy is a shambles, and except for gangs, militias, and corrupt vestiges of a central government that rarely leaves the cities, no one is really in charge. Anyone who can leave is either already trying to do so, or already has. The last time I was in Florida and Chicago for work (last January and last April), instead of the expected Cubans and Mexicans, the only Hispanic locals I met were all Venezuelan. Taxi drivers, airport workers, service staff, Uber drivers--almost ALL Venezuelans, and VERY relieved to be able to speak Spanish with me, so probably not yet in the States very long.

If Trump sends our armed forces to attack Venezuela, the response of the people might be, "so what? Come on in. You think you guys are gonna be any worse than what we already have? Just feed us." When Trump refuses, and Maduro flees to Cuba, then we'll have a Viet Cong situation all over again. I know that Chávez sent Venezuela's gold to Cuba for "safekeeping," and also know that he sold off over $1 billion of it through a California firm doing the deal in (and with) Canada to avoid any embargo laws. So, while Madurto and his pals sing "Don't Cry For Me Venezuela," the rest of the country will either work for their new Yanqui occupiers or else join the new FAR (Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias, or whatever the local version is calling themselves these days) in the jungle, of which there is still plenty. Republicans will call them "kommanists," and follow Putin's suggestion that we throw every bit of armed might the USA can muster into Venezuela while Putin, himself, quietly retakes the Baltics from NATO in some half-discreet overnight action.

Botany

(75,365 posts)
5. If Trump does attack Venezuela I hope nations worldwide recall their ambassadors and cut off the U.S. cold.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:33 AM
Friday

Last edited Fri Sep 26, 2025, 09:45 AM - Edit history (1)

An unprovoked attack on a nation such as Venezuela is a huge war crime just like
killing those Venezuelans in those 2 boats was murder.

DFW

(58,999 posts)
12. Ironically, I think that the one who would be most likely to put the brakes on that would be Rubio
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 12:44 PM
Friday

The second Trump orders Hegseth to start making menacing moves, Rubio's phone starts ringing off the hook with NATO ambassadors telling that since Hegseth is a nut case and can't be reasoned with, they are calling Rubio as a last resort to tell him that if we make an unprovoked attack on Venezuela, we could be suspended from of the UN and commercially blocked off from everywhere but Hungary and Turkey. Rubio may be a jerk, but after 150 calls from more countries than he knew existed, he might figure out that we have more to lose than to gain.

Swede

(37,400 posts)
7. And Americans and Venezuelans will needlessly die.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:39 AM
Friday

To distract from the Epstein scandal. Disgusting.

GoCubsGo

(34,373 posts)
8. Wagging the Dog.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:47 AM
Friday

The same goes for his whackjob call to re-invade Afghanistan to reclaim an airbase that he fucking negotiated away in the first place.

I hope there are enough patriots in that group of generals who will sabotage any war and other plans these motherfuckers have.

Happy Hoosier

(9,100 posts)
9. Some Europeans hopeful he's taking a tougher stance against Russia....
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:49 AM
Friday

... not a chance IMO.

He'll likely either focus on Venezuela or Iran again.

Torchlight

(5,720 posts)
10. Remember the Maine! v 2.0
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:57 AM
Friday

Won't be surprised if Mr. hegseth calls its his Splendid Little War.

PufPuf23

(9,602 posts)
13. Are there still FOLs on Aruba and Curacao?
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 01:14 PM
Friday

There were facility improvements and contracts with the Netherlands during GWB / Plan Colombia.

There were large refineries that fueled allied forces in Europe during WWII. Germany attacked the refinery on Aruba.

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