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NoShit.... (Original Post) pbmus Thursday OP
Umm... so did I SSJVegeta Thursday #1
Wayne County Michigan?? Anyway, tell us... Jack Valentino Thursday #2
Dearborn didnt vote for Harris. By a lot. SSJVegeta Thursday #4
Ah yeah, of course.... Kamala started out with a little separation between her Jack Valentino Thursday #7
Polling actually consistently showed it a key issue in all swing states SSJVegeta Thursday #11
but there were many more muslim voters in Michigan than any other swing states.... Jack Valentino Thursday #14
Muslims were not the only ones who thought genocide was worth not voting -or worse SSJVegeta Thursday #15
Not claiming that they were--- there were a lot of younger people who felt the same as well--- Jack Valentino Thursday #17
It wasnt the only thing thay flipped michigan. She lost key groups all around. Not just in Michigan SSJVegeta Thursday #18
It was apparent to anyone paying attention that trump would likely win. I suspect VP Harris supporters Silent Type Thursday #3
I told my maga friends congrats and went home early. Even they were like "what do you mean?!" SSJVegeta Thursday #5
Was hopeful, and expected it to be several days before votes were counted. Ended quickly, with Silent Type Thursday #6
🤞 SSJVegeta Thursday #12
it was not 'apparent' to ME, and I WAS 'paying attention'--- Jack Valentino Thursday #8
Sorry, but that's what I believe. You can believe what you want. Silent Type Thursday #9
you can believe what you want, without insulting the rest of us Jack Valentino Thursday #10
Same back. Silent Type Thursday #13
I didn't insult your intelligence here, or imply that I am 'smarter' than you. Jack Valentino Thursday #16

Jack Valentino

(3,385 posts)
7. Ah yeah, of course.... Kamala started out with a little separation between her
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:00 PM
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and Joe on that issue (God bless him, but he was WRONG on the Gaza war
when it continued forever)---

but the Wayne County muslims made a huge mistake,
and where are we now???

That issue probably lost Michigan for the Democratic presidential nominee,
but much less so elsewhere... where we probably lost the election
because of the economy and inflation,
regardless of logical arguments about it....

Jack Valentino

(3,385 posts)
14. but there were many more muslim voters in Michigan than any other swing states....
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:19 PM
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mostly due to the concentration in Dearborn and Wayne County.


Yes, the issue hurt us elsewhere as well,
but not nearly as much as in Michigan
(my home state, so I was extremely aware of the problem here)

SSJVegeta

(1,592 posts)
15. Muslims were not the only ones who thought genocide was worth not voting -or worse
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:20 PM
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...voting for Trump.


Exit polling proved that Trump peeled off a good number of traditionally liberal demographics from Harris' expected base.

Jack Valentino

(3,385 posts)
17. Not claiming that they were--- there were a lot of younger people who felt the same as well---
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:23 PM
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but purely by demographic numbers, that probably made the difference in Michigan.

SSJVegeta

(1,592 posts)
18. It wasnt the only thing thay flipped michigan. She lost key groups all around. Not just in Michigan
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:33 PM
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When you are losing your own base, it's time to fold.

Silent Type

(11,261 posts)
3. It was apparent to anyone paying attention that trump would likely win. I suspect VP Harris supporters
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:05 PM
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felt the same.

SSJVegeta

(1,592 posts)
5. I told my maga friends congrats and went home early. Even they were like "what do you mean?!"
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:30 PM
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Silent Type

(11,261 posts)
6. Was hopeful, and expected it to be several days before votes were counted. Ended quickly, with
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:51 PM
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same sick feeling as 2016. Thank gawd for another chance in midterms.

Jack Valentino

(3,385 posts)
8. it was not 'apparent' to ME, and I WAS 'paying attention'---
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:03 PM
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and I WAS a big supporter of VP Harris after President Biden dropped out---


'Blanket' statements like you are making here are offensive.


Jack Valentino

(3,385 posts)
10. you can believe what you want, without insulting the rest of us
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:13 PM
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by implying that you were somehow "smarter" than the rest of us!

Jack Valentino

(3,385 posts)
16. I didn't insult your intelligence here, or imply that I am 'smarter' than you.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:21 PM
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You clearly did that with your blanket statements.

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