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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSaw a number of folks today expressing satisfaction that Comey is getting his comeuppance for what he did to Hillary
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...two points.
That's nothing but advocating for the federal government attacking people that you disagree with; a position indistinguishable from any other politically desired prosecution.
I get that we're free to say and believe what we want, but some consistency might be wise on complaints about the absolute corruption of Trump punishing his political rivals with the weight and power of the Department of Justice.
The other should be obvious, but I think there's a lot of sentiment out there that condemning Comey to his fate is the best defense of Hillary Clinton.
In that, maybe consider that if Trump is successful in either prosecuting the former FBI director, or even just harassing him with legal probes for years, then other people Trump has identified as 'enemies' may well be his next target, with Hillary certainly included in those.

leftstreet
(37,377 posts)Patton French
(1,787 posts)Im outraged at the reprobate felon and Im also outraged at the idiot who did a lot to give us the reprobate felon. Both can be true.
newdeal2
(4,221 posts)Doesnt mean Trump is right but this action is not going to generate a lot of passion. I still hope Comey gets a good lawyer and wins in court though.
bigtree
(92,666 posts)...I think that we'll not only see protests against this action, but Comey will be an obvious subject of demonstrators highlighting that abuse.
It's not theoretical or speculative anymore.
The line has been crossed, and there should be some degree of integrity in our position that it isn't just about defending our own prerogatives, but that even defending someone we have political or other disagreements with the insistence that the federal government won't act precipitously against them is also something that we would be inclined to support.
Plenty of people already advocating against this indictment, already making that adjustment and hardly mentioning the Hillary election, if at all; focusing all of their efforts on the corruption right in front of us.
Nothing is going to be assuaged about that election in any of this, and I'd guess most folks who will protest this in different forums will recognize that, and keep their personal animus toward Comey under their hat in order to direct all of the heat to Trump and his henchpeople.
Ocelot II
(127,439 posts)and unless we object loudly to this outrageous action it will happen to others. Maybe "our" people like Adam Schiff. I'm thinking of making a sign for October 18 that says "FREE JIM COMEY."
Demsrule86
(71,235 posts)Trump want Adam Shiff punished too...it is a bad thing to do in either case.
Jack Valentino
(3,385 posts)against Hillary in 2016...
If one thinks he helped rig the 2016 election against Hillary,
then it becomes a prime example of how Trump's allies ALWAYS
end up being screwed in the end!!! --
-- no matter how much you do for Trump, it is never enough in the end,
and you eventually get thrown under the bus!
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,022 posts)And for all we know, DU and members may very well be on that list also.
bigtree
(92,666 posts)...we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that this isn't as much about Comey, as it's about controlling or stifling all dissent against Trump which includes our social media discussions.
question everything
(51,030 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(16,022 posts)he just hasn't gotten around to her yet.
Skittles
(167,728 posts)I CAN SEE TRUMP IS WEAPONIZING THE GOVERNMENT AND NOT FEEL MUCH SYMPATHY FOR THE FORMER TRUMP ENABLER COMEY
bigtree
(92,666 posts)...but I agree with not 'sympathizing' with Comey, other in expressing solidarity with his cause, which is ultimately all of our concern, especially if this government is successful in harrassing, intimidating, or prosecuting political rivals of the president who has openly threatened Comey and others.
I don't think we should lose the thread on what's important today, assuaging some feelings or opinions on that past election or any other issue with Comey.
No one is telling you what to think or believe by pointing to what's important in this fight, and how critical it is that we're not either divided or weakened in our defense against what Trump is doing.
They're counting on that. I heard speculation about why Trump chose Comey, given that he helped him get elected.
Aside from the Russia stuff, I'd guess it's a cynical calculation of his that Democrats would be divided and ambivalent about defending against him attacking our political rival.
I'm hoping that's something Democrats can put aside to make a demonstratively broad defense of our position, beyond even our own political interests, against what Trump has done and is contemplating.
It's not an unreasonable ask.
Skittles
(167,728 posts)that being said, I would really love for Comey to tell us what they REALLY know about Donald Fucking Trump - the shit they SHOULD have told the public before that first election
bigtree
(92,666 posts)...hopefully it's Trump on the plate and not the one he's trying to cook.
Skittles
(167,728 posts)he surely does NOW
Bev54
(12,908 posts)Joinfortmill
(18,994 posts)TomSlick
(12,735 posts)This is a vindictive political prosecution. No one is safe from the Trump Department of Injustice.
hamsterjill
(16,597 posts)There. I said it. I think he's a boy scout. I think he's got an overexuberant case of honor and I think that's what got him into the mess over Hillary's emails. Am I happy that he did what he did in 2016? Absolutely not. But does that mean that I think he's guilty of lying to Congress? Again, absolutely not. He's too smart.
The fact that prosecutors refused to bring this case until a hand picked Trumper yes person was put into place tells me about all I need to know. Now, having said that, I worry about manufactured evidence, etc.
If we don't stand up for Comey, then what's it going to take? Hillary? Obama? Biden?
It could be one of us next.
LuvLoogie
(8,284 posts)be the only ones enjoying trump's retribution? It's not like they had an active hand in his ascension, other than as a modern day scapegoat to the original, uniquely American bigotries that ancestored our present political climate.
I care not that Comey is trump's current whipping boy. His head was not driven into the pavement. He was not tazed and dragged away in front of his family into the ether.
This action is not a warning of things to come. We're in it. The bodies are piling up.
spanone
(140,275 posts)niyad
(127,526 posts)and I will NEVER forgive comey for his part in enabling the orange monster. I want comey to live every moment of every day with the knowledge that he himself is a large part of why we are where we are, and why he is in the situation he is facing. He helped create this monster, and I want him to know it with every fiber of his being.
Oh, and one unmentioned little fact. krasnov manbaby absolutely HATES the fact that comey towers over him.
bigtree
(92,666 posts)...most of it.
It's going to hurt Trump to lose, especially to someone as smarmy and arrogant as Comey.
Cretins like Trump, degenerate criminals, always try to drag people around them down to their level to justify their actions.
This is a mostly unrecognized political tactic of this newish Trumpian era - to encourage the opposition to abuse the law or a political norm in the cynical expectation their own destruction of laws and norms will be advantaged by some Democratic compromise of values we expect the administration to adhere to.
That's a really common tactic many people use in their everyday conduct to try and elevate themselves the easy way, without having to change their dirty habits.
ecstatic
(34,940 posts)He even had sort of a smug, superior tone as if he was some sort of defender of righteousness.
In other words, he never fully took responsibility as far as I know. Please let me know if he finally did.
That said, what trump is doing is chilling and wrong, and extremely selfish and shortsighted. He is destroying our country and if this continues, our economy will collapse as investors flee.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,306 posts)dlk
(12,968 posts)I think you may be missing the point. We are in this terrible, fascist place, in part because of Comeys actions.
No one is saying anyone should be prosecuted with made up charges. The rule of law is being decimated, daily by this administration and I dont know anyone in DU who thinks thats a good thing in any way, or for any reason.
However, Comeys actions have had very serious consequences and mentioning that fact shouldnt be a problem.
bigtree
(92,666 posts)...I think it's an important part of the story here, in that I believe they chose Comey first in the cynical expectation that Dems would be divided over an old grudge about that election that can't be undone.
We don't choose him for this, Trump did, and I think we need to ask ourselves why.
And maybe try to look at this beyond our own political reasoning about that election, something which isn't actually going to be assuaged or remedied by any of this in any way, shape, or form other than some satisfaction in his demise at the hands of something we should find highly objectionable; as at least as abhorrent as Comey's enabling conduct in that election.
I don't believe that conundrum is a coincidence.
Ilikepurple
(324 posts)Trumps base, of course, will just go along with this attack. Im sure theyre hoping Comey doesnt have enough allies or public sympathy to get much blowback. Theres nothing inconsistent about believing politicized, corrupt indictments are wrong and finding satisfaction in an instance. The former is a judgment and the latter reveals an emotion. Often initial acquiescence to schadenfreude needs time to give way to rational analyses. That being said, I wholeheartedly agree with your last paragraph. This is a chilling move by the Trump administration and I believe the most effective response would be widespread condemnation of the indictment and possibly protest.
Figarosmom
(8,755 posts)And he won't be getting his comeuppance for what he did to Hillary , be getting charged for nothing.
creeksneakers2
(7,815 posts)Trump must not be allowed to get away with this!
LetMyPeopleVote
(170,297 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 28, 2025, 05:25 PM - Edit history (1)
Comey was an asshole and attacked Hillary Clinton when he announced that there would be no charges on the email issue. Under DOJ rules, when the decision not to proceed is made, there is NO announcement. Comey was an asshole and held a press conference where he attacked Clinton.
This press conference was so offensive and against DOJ policy that the DOJ inspector general called Comey out.
The DOJ's inspector general agreed that Comey "violated long-standing Department practice and protocol by, among other things, criticizing Clintons uncharged conduct," and that Comey "usurped the authority of the Attorney General." https://oig.justice.gov/node/640

bigtree
(92,666 posts)...so defending against an individual being subject to this unjust action of using the weight and power of the federal government against a political or personal adversary, enemy, or dissident will demonstrate that the objections aren't just a partisan political defense of Democrats or Democratic party interests.
This antipathy or objection about the consequence of his actions in that election cannot be assuaged or remedied by approving of, encouraging, or tolerating Trump perpetrating the very abuses we ostensibly object to against even this political rival of our own.
Moreover, it doesn't take much reasoning to conclude that Trump has likely put this Democratic antagonist forward for this abuse of power, cynically hoping Democrats will stoop to his level, acquiesce to this because of our own resentments, and absolve him of his dirty deed.
LetMyPeopleVote
(170,297 posts)Comey was an asshole and attacked Hillary Clinton when he announced that there would be no charges on the email issue. Under DOJ rules, when the decision not to proceed is made, there is NO announcement. Comey was an asshole and held a press conference where he attacked Clinton.
This press conference was so offensive and against DOJ policy that the DOJ inspector general called Comey out.
The DOJ's inspector general agreed that Comey "violated long-standing Department practice and protocol by, among other things, criticizing Clintons uncharged conduct," and that Comey "usurped the authority of the Attorney General." https://oig.justice.gov/node/640