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highplainsdem

(58,353 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:51 PM Thursday

New statements from Bruce Springsteen, who despises Trump but isn't happy with Democratic messaging

https://time.com/7319963/bruce-springsteen-songs-albums-deliver-me-from-nowhere/

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For the European tour, Springsteen revised his set list, swapping meditations on mortality from his 2020 album Letter to You for fierce political resistance—beginning with “Land of Hope and Dreams,” his gospel-infused anthem of inclusion and redemption, and closing with Dylan’s “Chimes of Freedom,” a hymn of solidarity with the oppressed. “He just got pissed off enough to want to change the theme,” longtime E Street guitarist Steven Van Zandt says. It was a few months into Donald Trump’s norm-shattering second term, and Springsteen was among the first artists of his stature to speak out so forcefully. “If I’m going to stay true to who I’ve tried to be,” he tells me, “I can’t give these guys a free pass.” Politics had long shadowed him: to his fury, “Born in the U.S.A.,” a protest against the neglect of Vietnam veterans, was hijacked by Ronald Reagan and recast as a flag-saluting celebration. “To understand that song,” he says, “you’ve got to hold two contradictory thoughts at once: that you can feel betrayed by your country and still love it.”

Over the years, he has returned to political and social themes, from the AIDS epidemic and the plight of migrant workers, to deindustrialization and the ravages of war. Critics have mocked the irony of a rock star traveling by private jet while singing about the working poor. He owns the contradiction—“a rich man in a poor man’s shirt,” as he writes in “Better Days.” Today, the joke is old, but something else haunts him: the very people he sings about have flocked to Trump. “A lot of people bought into his lies,” he says. “He doesn’t care about the forgotten anybody but himself and the multibillionaires who stood behind him on Inauguration Day.” Springsteen struggles with another truth: “You have to face the fact that a good number of Americans are simply comfortable with his politics of power and dominance.”

After Springsteen’s speech, Trump called him “highly overrated” and posted a meme depicting himself striking the rocker with a golf ball. When I bring this up, Springsteen laughs. “I absolutely couldn’t care less what he thinks about me.” What he doesn’t laugh about is the state of the nation. “He’s the living personification of what the 25th Amendment and impeachment were for. If Congress had any guts, he’d be consigned to the trash heap of history.” Nor does he spare Democrats: “We’re desperately in need of an effective alternative party, or for the Democratic Party to find someone who can speak to the majority of the nation. There is a problem with the language that they’re using and the way they’re trying to reach people.”

Springsteen has spent decades exploring the gulf between the American Dream and the American reality, the widening economic divides that would power Trump’s rise: from the hollowing out of Rust Belt cities, conjured in his 1984 song “My Hometown,” to the populist rage of his 2012 album about the Great Recession, Wrecking Ball. “Those conditions are ripe for a demagogue,” he says. “Those things have got to be addressed if we want to live in the America of our better angels. I still believe it’s there, but it’s struggling.”

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New statements from Bruce Springsteen, who despises Trump but isn't happy with Democratic messaging (Original Post) highplainsdem Thursday OP
Kick SheltieLover Thursday #1
Yvw! highplainsdem Thursday #4
Well said, Bruce. Now is not the time for politics as usual. Ping Tung Thursday #2
That's why he's The Boss. He's never forgotten his convictions 💙 Deuxcents Thursday #3
I love The Boss, but Wednesdays Thursday #5
It's against the rules here at du to talk about it questionseverything Thursday #8
The Silent Pejorate bigtree Thursday #12
So in other Rebl2 Thursday #17
We're not really underground anymore. nt BWdem4life Thursday #15
We don't talk about Bruno Wednesdays Thursday #34
Tip Toe, Through The Minefield... BidenRocks Thursday #33
"We're desperately in need of....someone who can speak to the majority of the nation." sop Thursday #6
Have never been a full on fanatic progressoid Thursday #7
Um, Born To Run was released 7 years BEFORE Nebraska Wiz Imp Thursday #11
Aw, stupid autofill. progressoid Thursday #14
Your friend was disappointed? Nebraska is typically considered one of Bruce's 5 best albums, often highplainsdem Thursday #18
Yeah, I think it was a stylistic thing. progressoid Thursday #21
A lot of fans were at the time. johnnyfins Thursday #27
blah blah blah bigtree Thursday #9
Afraid so TexasBushwhacker Thursday #19
Agree mountain grammy Thursday #22
Trump won''t "dismantle" the "terrorist antifa Democratic Party". It dismanteled itself. usonian Thursday #10
Bernie and A.O.C. They are our best. And they fill auditoriums. The problem/question --- 3Hotdogs Thursday #28
Bernie and A.O.C. are our best. They fill auditoriums and gymnasiums. The problem ---- 3Hotdogs Thursday #29
Yup. Spending millions telling people what they already know wont work SSJVegeta Thursday #13
Dems need to stop trying to please CNN and the NYT. * 617Blue Thursday #16
Messaging? What messaging? Grins Thursday #20
Yes. It is hard for some to accept. Passages Thursday #23
Someone speaks. Go Bruce. Others are welcome and thanked profusely from me. You can be left and also be right (Correct). twodogsbarking Thursday #24
I'm sure he wants to play the songs that the European fans want to hear FakeNoose Thursday #25
Bruce Dave Id Thursday #26
We'll never fix this until this is fixed... HighFired49 Thursday #30
Please tell me where this message will be heard. Keepthesoulalive Thursday #31
Bruce is a thoughtful and empathetic man Bayard Thursday #32

Wednesdays

(20,820 posts)
5. I love The Boss, but
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:38 PM
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what is the problem with the Democrats' language? What does he suggest we say?

Rebl2

(17,017 posts)
17. So in other
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:48 PM
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words, DU doesn’t allow us to speak freely or stifles what we want to say?

BidenRocks

(2,270 posts)
33. Tip Toe, Through The Minefield...
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 07:51 PM
Thursday

Language. I flashed on Schumer with his glasses low on his nose speaking in the soft accent while talking about strongly worded letters or acquiescing on some legislation.

Compared to Jasmine Crockett or Gavin Newson, there is a generational divide.

Less get along and more kick ass!

Let's not forget "Fuck Your Feelings"!
Liberal Tears
And the unforgettable, Democrat Party!

I may desire peace, but sometimes it has to be earned by forceful action!

Good Trouble!

sop

(16,202 posts)
6. "We're desperately in need of....someone who can speak to the majority of the nation."
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:45 PM
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"You can’t get there from here" (old New England adage) also applies to the sort of political change Springsteen is talking about. The party first needs to forego its devotion to corporate money before they can get back to representing the interests of working class Americans.

progressoid

(51,996 posts)
7. Have never been a full on fanatic
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:47 PM
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Last edited Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:38 PM - Edit history (1)

but have watched him with fascination. I remember when Nebraska came out and a friend at the time was so disappointed in it. Then a couple years later Born in the USA (not to Run) was a juggernaut.

Wiz Imp

(7,519 posts)
11. Um, Born To Run was released 7 years BEFORE Nebraska
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:23 PM
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Born In the USA was released after Nebraska in 1984.

progressoid

(51,996 posts)
14. Aw, stupid autofill.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:36 PM
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And stupid me for not paying attention.

Meant to say, Born in the USA. (too many Borns)

I remember that too because a roommate at the time drove a few hours to see him perform during that tour.

highplainsdem

(58,353 posts)
18. Your friend was disappointed? Nebraska is typically considered one of Bruce's 5 best albums, often
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:50 PM
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considered better than Born In The U.S.A.

progressoid

(51,996 posts)
21. Yeah, I think it was a stylistic thing.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:07 PM
Thursday

Maybe he was expecting more E-Street Band sound? I dunno.

I didn't really pay much attention. I was going down a different road at the time (New Order, Peter Gabriel, Talking Heads, Laurie Anderson, Brian Eno etc.)

johnnyfins

(2,960 posts)
27. A lot of fans were at the time.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:26 PM
Thursday

Bruce had just had a lot of success with the River and a huge tour. People wanted more of the full band.

This is the subject of the forthcoming film, Deliver Me From Nowhere.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,019 posts)
19. Afraid so
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:55 PM
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As long as we have the Electoral College for POTUS, third parties and independents will only function as spoilers. That's just the way it is. Quit looking for the perfect unicorn that farts rainbows. You aren't getting a pony for Christmas either. ANYONE who thinks the 2 sides are "equally bad" needs to grow the fuck up.

mountain grammy

(28,246 posts)
22. Agree
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:07 PM
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The gulf between the American dream and reality is filled with republicans.

That said I still feel free to criticize my party and contribute advice along with $$$.

usonian

(20,872 posts)
10. Trump won''t "dismantle" the "terrorist antifa Democratic Party". It dismanteled itself.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:10 PM
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NOTHING PERSONAL

They are focused on who knows what (besides collecting money and wasting it on ads)

Bernie and AOC have been delivering a message in deep red districts that has people cheering.
But it's "not nice" to the wealthy.
And you know what that means


See The Sleeping Beauties
https://www.democraticunderground.com/13244015

See also -- the two "wild and crazy guys"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20674622

3Hotdogs

(14,592 posts)
28. Bernie and A.O.C. They are our best. And they fill auditoriums. The problem/question ---
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:42 PM
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Who is in the audience? Dems who would vote Dem anyway or are there Reps. who come in hope of learning something.

3Hotdogs

(14,592 posts)
29. Bernie and A.O.C. are our best. They fill auditoriums and gymnasiums. The problem ----
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:44 PM
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Are the people who attend their rallies, Dems who would vote for them anyway or Repubs who come to maybe learn something?

SSJVegeta

(1,591 posts)
13. Yup. Spending millions telling people what they already know wont work
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:33 PM
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You have to tell people what you are going to do and how you will help.

twodogsbarking

(15,978 posts)
24. Someone speaks. Go Bruce. Others are welcome and thanked profusely from me. You can be left and also be right (Correct).
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:10 PM
Thursday

FakeNoose

(38,766 posts)
25. I'm sure he wants to play the songs that the European fans want to hear
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:16 PM
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So why should Bruce care what controversy it stirs up here, because he'll be over on the other side of the pond.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,844 posts)
31. Please tell me where this message will be heard.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:53 PM
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We don’t have control of the media and they are supposed to be our truth tellers. Sinclair, Fox News, right wing radio, Washington post, twitter, Facebook and all the other so called unbiased media. Trump lies and they swear it’s true, he set the country on fire the first time and they came back for more. The democrats aren’t perfect but they have done more for this country than any republican since Eisenhower and still we don’t hold the American people responsible for their vote . Bruce ain’t in the trenches , these people are easily influenced and their culture does not allow for change. I hope you find that person who can deliver this magic lesson and this profound message because I have not seen anything that can break through the ignorance and hatred.

Bayard

(27,147 posts)
32. Bruce is a thoughtful and empathetic man
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:54 PM
Thursday

I agree with what he says here. We need to find our next great orator. Our next Obama, and we need to do it NOW.

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