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malaise

(289,501 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:28 PM Thursday

Obama makes it Pellucidly Clear - Donvict's comments on autism are

Violence against the truth.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/24/obama-says-trump-linking-paracetamol-to-autism-is-violence-against-the-truth

Barack Obama has said Donald Trump’s claims linking paracetamol to autism in infants is “violence against the truth” that could harm pregnant women if they were too scared to take pain relief.

Obama, who was being interviewed by David Olusoga at the O2 Arena, told the audience that Trump’s claims about paracetamol – branded as Tylenol in the US – had been “continuously disproved” and posed a danger to public health.

“We have the spectacle of my successor in the Oval Office making broad claims around certain drugs and autism that have been continuously disproved,” he said. “It undermines public health … that can do harm to women.”

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Still anyone on this planet who would take medical advice from the Mad Red Hatter is already batshit crazy.



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Obama makes it Pellucidly Clear - Donvict's comments on autism are (Original Post) malaise Thursday OP
He said women should "tough it out" Walleye Thursday #1
The wimmins are supposed to gut out the pain leftstreet Thursday #2
The only time it was dangerous to take Tylenol was in 1982 (the Tylenol murders). Dave Bowman Thursday #3
I I remember that well malaise Thursday #4
I curse that guy Mossfern Thursday #7
LOL malaise Thursday #8
Any time I get *child-proof bottles" HubertHeaver Thursday #16
Oh, Obama. Always so measured. maxsolomon Thursday #5
Agree 100% malaise Thursday #6
He's often Mossfern Thursday #9
So moderate, so measured, maxsolomon Thursday #10
I perceive that you are not a fan of his cerebral style. In context, shd he have climbed on the desk of the interviewer? Hekate Thursday #11
I am less enamored of him than I have been in the past. maxsolomon Thursday #15
I think the former President is saying that the current President is not an honest person. twodogsbarking Thursday #12
Indeed malaise Thursday #14
Mr. Obama is still the only President to be younger than I. twodogsbarking Thursday #18
K&R red dog 1 Thursday #13
The bottle responds malaise Thursday #17
The real danger for pregnant women lies in not taking acetameniphen MLWR Thursday #19
MaddowBlog-'Violence against the truth': Obama takes aim at Trump's bogus Tylenol claims LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #20
Thanks - great link malaise Thursday #21

Walleye

(42,630 posts)
1. He said women should "tough it out"
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:34 PM
Thursday

Oh, like he did with his bone spurs, or with his scalp reduction surgery that resulted in Ivana getting beaten? saying that a woman should tough it out, not him though.

leftstreet

(37,376 posts)
2. The wimmins are supposed to gut out the pain
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:35 PM
Thursday

Trump's announcement was 0 science but several references to "fight the pain instead"

really, really creepy

Mossfern

(4,375 posts)
7. I curse that guy
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:11 PM
Thursday

every time I try to open anything...especially if I'm in a hurry.
That reminds me; I need to tell my pharmacist not to put my meds in childproof bottles.

HubertHeaver

(2,534 posts)
16. Any time I get *child-proof bottles"
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:15 PM
Thursday

I have to have my granddaughter come over to open the things.

Hekate

(99,594 posts)
11. I perceive that you are not a fan of his cerebral style. In context, shd he have climbed on the desk of the interviewer?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:38 PM
Thursday

Or if standing, should he have seized the microphone? And bellowed?

maxsolomon

(37,413 posts)
15. I am less enamored of him than I have been in the past.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:55 PM
Thursday

But I don't expect him to change his careful, considered approach. It's what he's always done.

malaise

(289,501 posts)
14. Indeed
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:48 PM
Thursday

but sometimes you have to call a spade a spade - an effin liar is more accurate 😀

MLWR

(568 posts)
19. The real danger for pregnant women lies in not taking acetameniphen
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:04 PM
Thursday

when they have a fever. A pregnant woman running a fever for longer periods of time can harm the fetus. It isn't so much a question of pain or "toughing it out," as the quack put it.

LetMyPeopleVote

(170,297 posts)
20. MaddowBlog-'Violence against the truth': Obama takes aim at Trump's bogus Tylenol claims
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:23 PM
Thursday

After seeing his successor’s radical rhetoric about medicine and vaccines, the former Democratic president apparently felt the need to speak out.

Days before leaving office, @barackobama.bsky.social said he’d largely remain on the sidelines, except when “our core values” are at stake.

Nine years later, Obama is apparently seeing our core values in jeopardy with increasing frequency. Take this week, for example www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-09-25T16:26:15.157Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/violence-truth-obama-takes-aim-trumps-bogus-tylenol-claims-rcna233690
Nearly nine years later, Obama is apparently seeing our core values in jeopardy with increasing frequency. Take this week, for example. Politico reported:

Barack Obama has accused President Donald Trump of ‘violence against the truth’ for linking autism to the use of Tylenol by pregnant women. The former president made a direct attack on his successor that was as rare for its forcefulness as for its setting — an arena stage on foreign soil in London on Wednesday — as he warned that the Trump administration’s claims undermine public health.


Speaking to a large crowd at London’s O2 Arena, the former president said, “We have the spectacle of my successor in the Oval Office, making broad claims around certain drugs and autism that have been continuously disproved.”

He added, “The degree to which that undermines public health, the degree to which that can do harm to women who are pregnant, the degree to which that creates anxiety for parents who do have children who are autistic — which, by the way, itself is subject to a spectrum, and a lot of what is being trumpeted as these massive increases actually have to do with a broadening of the criteria across that spectrum so that people can actually get services and help. All of that is violence against the truth.”.

And while it’s true that Obama was speaking at the time to a foreign audience, it’s also true that he wanted a domestic audience to be aware of his comments: The Democrat promoted excerpts from his appearance, including his Trump criticisms, via social media.

We have people in power making broad claims around certain drugs and autism that have been continuously disproven.

Barack Obama (@barackobama.bsky.social) 2025-09-25T14:02:35.168Z


This was notable in its own right, especially given how dangerous Trump’s misguided claims about medicine, vaccines and public health have been. But circling back to our recent coverage, it’s also worth emphasizing the recent pattern involving the former president.,,,,,

In September, Obama slammed Trump for politicizing the Charlie Kirk shooting and not doing more to unite the country, before taking rhetorical aim at the right’s recent efforts to undermine the First Amendment.

A week later, the former president also shared a few thoughts about his successor’s anti-Tylenol rant.

When thinking about Trump’s most prominent and most vocal Democratic critics, Obama does not spring immediately to mind. That, however, is starting to change.
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