but what would you suggest is the appropriate term?

Here's what it is:

Thanks for the info.

Never cave to a bully.

we give krasnov money for

welfare, military families and federal workers

and no one will stop him from building ball rooms and deporting us all.

we will have to help each other through eventually. take away his credit card.

and use them for frivolous shit to boost his teeny tiny ego.

This is about the only time the democrats have any real power to get anything through at all.
Pain now, or pain forever.

You give Trump an inch and he takes your life.

We need to try a different approach.

BUT Dems need to have a clear simple message right now and repeat it on all channels. If they are not on the same page on this and speaking the same language, Trump will win this battle.

thought they were on the same page back in March, were prepared to fight.

before the gutting of our social net became law.

I wanted to take a stand back in March and many people criticized my opinion, many people felt a shutdown would be blamed on Democrats.

Remember?

With that said, better late than never, would have been much easier back in March but a handful of Senate Democrats kneecapped the majority.

Remember - back in March Krasnov got everything he wanted and Democrats got nothing in return, now Democrats have to try to undo a law.

Good luck Chuck, I'm on board, have been since March.

Of course, you can see where it got us. I’ll take a pass on capitulation strategy.

We're at the point where we must fight back in any way possible.

If Democrats aren;t willing to fight now, then when?

Lots of people have already been hurt and many more will be if the Trump plan is allowed to continue. This will be a GOP shutdown, they run the government.

Resolute and unyielding appears to be a foreign concept to some....

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No more playing nice..no more saving Trump’s ass for the good of the country..no more “when they go low we go high”…when they go low we get them on the ground and step down hard on their fucking necks..