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PunkinPi

(5,201 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 09:24 AM Thursday

The Silence Around Black Journalists' Cancellations Makes The Jimmy Kimmel Outcry Ring Hollow

Lots of folks are in uproar over Jimmy Kimmel. One white man loses his late-night show, and suddenly it’s the end of free speech, the death of comedy, and the collapse of American democracy. Now that his suspension is over and he’s getting his show back, the whole saga is being spun as vindication, as proof that white voices are too essential to ever stay silenced. Funny how all that righteous outrage was mute when a long line of Black journalists lost their shows or platforms over the past several years.
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This is why Kimmel’s saga makes the hypocrisy so clear. His temporary removal was treated as an emergency for democracy. His reinstatement is framed as a victory for free speech. But where was that same urgency when Black journalists were erased for good? Their cancellations didn’t come with a countdown clock to their return, they came with the door slamming shut.
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Melissa Harris-Perry, Tiffany Cross, Joy Reid, Jemele Hill, Don Lemon, Marc Lamont Hill, Karen Attiah, Amber Ruffin, and others. Their departures were met with either silence or outright hostility, and they happened in an industry already starved of Black voices.
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These weren’t treated as free speech issues because the dominant culture doesn’t believe Black speech is integral to the nation’s civic life. It sees it as expendable, sometimes even dangerous. This is about who gets to define reality for the nation. White men like Kimmel are treated as indispensable cultural institutions. Black journalists are treated as expendable, even threatening. The double standard is blinding.


More/Source: https://newsone.com/6482055/theres-outrage-jimmy-kimmel-black-journalists/
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While I'm glad Kimmel got his show back, it's disheartening knowing that Black journalists do not get the same level of support.
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The Silence Around Black Journalists' Cancellations Makes The Jimmy Kimmel Outcry Ring Hollow (Original Post) PunkinPi Thursday OP
K&R Docreed2003 Thursday #1
White journalists lost jobs also. The Kimmel thing got attention JI7 Thursday #2
Thanks for posting this!!! Very important issue!!! geojazz Thursday #3
A large part of the Kimmel situation CozyMystery Thursday #4
I know each case happy feet Thursday #8
Where is the proof of government coercion or intimidation? Random Boomer Thursday #11
And IIRC... SickOfTheOnePct Thursday #12
Yeah, I've noticed a lot about that a**hole CozyMystery Thursday #14
Great points. Rec'd underpants Thursday #5
Amen. Kid Berwyn Thursday #6
Another one for the this is why we lose file. BannonsLiver Thursday #7
K & R for visibility malaise Thursday #9
We all know tsf hates all non-white people KS Toronado Thursday #10
Joy Reid too!!! I thought she drew an audience and was a staple Beringia Thursday #13
I liked her show. calimary Thursday #16
Is Kimmel a comedian or a journalist? leftstreet Thursday #15
In both cases, it's about the First Amendment -- freedom of speech and of the press, which affects us all. PunkinPi Thursday #17
The author should make that distinction leftstreet Thursday #18
Look at it this way: late night comedians are entertainers, not straight news purveyors. They have fans... Hekate Thursday #19
+1 leftstreet Thursday #20
Thank you Hekate Thursday #21
Larry Wilmore BWdem4life Thursday #22

JI7

(92,697 posts)
2. White journalists lost jobs also. The Kimmel thing got attention
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 09:33 AM
Thursday

becsuse it was a comedy show and done openly and directly with Trump administration demands.

CozyMystery

(691 posts)
4. A large part of the Kimmel situation
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 09:56 AM
Thursday

was that federal government pressure caused ABC and Disney to cancel him. Why? The federal government did not like what he said about a political operative.

I read the article in this post, and I didn't read anything about *government* interference in the First Amendment right to free speech.

I am not going to look up each of the incidents that happened to the Black journalists. It could very well be that they were fired because they are Black. This is not something I am going to assume, although it is inviting to do so. The fact is that there are Black journalists who are fired for cause or for reasons other than racism, and there are those who are fired due to racism on the parts of their employers.

The problem with making assumptions without enough facts and evidence is that is that it points directly at a biased opinion at a time when facts are needed. I certainly have that bias which causes me to jump on the racist and unfair bandwagon, but I just can't. I take a wait and see attitude, which unless someone uncovers straightforward facts about it, will probably always just sit there inside me. Now if someone qualified to investigate, and credible, researched this and found factual proof, I'd be right there on that bandwagon.

happy feet

(1,241 posts)
8. I know each case
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:37 AM
Thursday

They were each fired because they were black, covered issues honestly and directly and Trump/Maga didn’t like. Several were named and targeted directly by Trump himself. I pay attention.

Have you ever noticed the way Trump treats and speaks about black female truth tellers. He called a White House corp press member nasty and another obnoxious just 2 days ago. Yes, there is a clear pattern especially, because there are so few black female journalists in the public light.

Random Boomer

(4,365 posts)
11. Where is the proof of government coercion or intimidation?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:53 AM
Thursday

Everyone suspects that Stephen Colbert was cancelled because of Trump, but there's no direct proof, so the grumbling was subdued. A network firing someone isn't enough to make the case.

In Kimmel's case, however, there was a very public and direct threat leveled at him by an FCC official. That brazen attempt at intimidation crossed the line into an obvious First Amendment issue.

CozyMystery

(691 posts)
14. Yeah, I've noticed a lot about that a**hole
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:00 PM
Thursday

I don't listen to much of what he says because his voice, I can't stand to hear it. I read, but not everything because it is always depressing, and I do not want to spend time in despair over that a**hole and his followers and enablers.

I have grokked that the a**hole and his peeps seem to hate women unless they are in a servile position. I also know how very racist they can be. How they think everyone should be ignorant. How they make a mockery of Christianity. How they don't believe in science. How they concentrate on lining their own pockets with gold or bitcoin or taxpayer dollars or dead bodies or ruined lives. How truth, provable facts, have no place in their rhetoric.

Worst of all, that a**hole proclaims often that he is the president of his own peeps only. Which seems unconstitutional on it's face -- he is the leader of the entire country in fact, although not in deed. Every time he "owns the Libs" or falsely blames the Democrats for events they did not instigate, he proves this. He has turned this country into us vs. them. He should be hated for that most of all.

I think he is pure evil.

Kid Berwyn

(22,006 posts)
6. Amen.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:07 AM
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Deafening silence. And whatever happened to Affirmative Action? DEI? Equal Justice for All?

KS Toronado

(21,382 posts)
10. We all know tsf hates all non-white people
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:48 AM
Thursday

so yes there are people who lost their jobs because of his racism.

Beringia

(5,206 posts)
13. Joy Reid too!!! I thought she drew an audience and was a staple
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:56 AM
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Her comments come after MSNBC canceled Reid’s primetime show The ReidOut without explanation in February, as part of a network shakeup following Donald Trump’s election win that resulted in the exodus of several of the network’s non-white anchors.

Former MSNBC host Keith Olbermann characterized the moves as “an MSNBC purge so brutally racist it makes you think it was done by [Elon] Musk.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/joy-reid-msnbc-tried-silence-220048319.html

leftstreet

(37,376 posts)
15. Is Kimmel a comedian or a journalist?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:04 PM
Thursday

Good article on the plight of the black journalists, but I doubt they consider themselves comedians/entertainers. Not seeing the correlation here

PunkinPi

(5,201 posts)
17. In both cases, it's about the First Amendment -- freedom of speech and of the press, which affects us all.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:27 PM
Thursday

I think the context you seem to be missing is the hypocrisy of white Americans ability to (successfully) rally for a white male comedian, but not for Black journalists who are fired for speaking truth and/or out against the regime.

leftstreet

(37,376 posts)
18. The author should make that distinction
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:39 PM
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(which would be difficult) Scolding people for not supporting black journalists - when the subject is a comedian

yeah

Not sure there's even an article here to be written

Hekate

(99,591 posts)
19. Look at it this way: late night comedians are entertainers, not straight news purveyors. They have fans...
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:56 PM
Thursday

…who cheer them wildly and laugh uproariously and groan aloud. Their audiences are fans, looking to be entertained above all.

Yes, I like Kimmel and Colbert. Yes, what happened to them was symptomatic of the authoritarian crackdown on humor and mockery of Dear Leader.

But when was the last time you or anyone else sat down in front of your tv for the news, and proceeded to chant the newscaster’s name as they came on? And cheered wildly as they announced whatever was going to be discussed by the panel? And groaned in unison as trump’s latest folly was mentioned?

Black or white or (increasingly) of Asian Indian descent —. Is that how we relate to them? As mass entertainment? Cheering our team on? Wearing team caps and T-shirts?

The OP makes a good point — but heads off in the wrong direction by calling the audience response hypocritical. It’s not all the same audience, not all there for the same purpose. The only thing they have in common is that their time blocks are ratings-driven by the corporate overlords.

Back when there were only 3 tv stations and cable hadn’t even been thought of, it was easy to agree that the news dept was sacrosanct, with a wall of separation between news and the more profane sports and soap operas. Lucy Ricardo and Walter Cronkite never met, much less competed with each other for ratings. CNN and MSNBC — all talking heads, all the time, all competing for the same eyeballs and the same ratings.

We have a problem, all right, and it’s huge. There’s definitely a race problem in the “news” delivery and commentary, but even more so the consolidation and monopolization of entire unrelated industries. I mean Disney? wth?

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