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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe three biggest flaws in Trump designating antifa a 'domestic terrorist organization'
Its tempting to laugh at a misguided president going after a nonexistent organization, but just because its absurd doesnt mean it not dangerous.
The three biggest flaws in Trump designating antifa a âdomestic terrorist organizationâ
— Dr. Irving Forbush (@drivingforbush.bsky.social) 2025-09-24T23:38:13.475Z
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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/three-biggest-flaws-trump-designating-antifa-domestic-terrorist-organi-rcna233512
The Republican announced soon after that hed follow through on this, and this week, he did, in fact, sign an executive order along these lines. NBC News reported:
The first serious flaw with this is that the designation doesnt make a lot of sense: An administration cant target a domestic terrorist organization if there is no actual organization. Antifa, to the extent that it exists, is made up of loosely affiliated anti-fascist activists. There is no budget. There is no membership list. There are no offices or headquarters. There are no staffers, leaders or board members.
At some level, Trump really ought to understand this: He announced more than five years ago that he was designating antifa as a terrorist organization, and the effort was a counterproductive bust.
The second problem is that the president is trying to use a power he does not have. As The Washington Post noted, The United States has no legal mechanism for labeling domestic organizations as terrorist groups. Administrations can label nonstate adversaries overseas as foreign terrorist organizations, but there is no domestic equivalent in U.S. law......
Arguably the biggest problem with Trumps declaration is that its vague: Its not at all clear how the White House intends to go after antifa, or who'll even meet the standards for affiliation.
As we discussed last week, if the White House says that antifa members are terrorists and the White House says it will decide on its own who and what qualifies as antifa affiliates this can get scary in a hurry as the administration eyes fishing expeditions into progressive donors and activists under the guise of anti-antifa investigations.
Indeed, NOTUS reported this week that the White Houses designation is causing some groups to worry that theyll be targeted because they publicly condemn fascism.
Trump signed an executive order [on Monday] designating antifa, a decentralized set of extreme left-wing groups, as a domestic terrorist organization. ... A White House official said the executive order is a follow-up to a social media post last week in which Trump said antifa would be designated a terrorist organization. The official added that conversations are still happening about what steps, if any, may be taken to review the activities of organizations the administration considers left-wing.
The first serious flaw with this is that the designation doesnt make a lot of sense: An administration cant target a domestic terrorist organization if there is no actual organization. Antifa, to the extent that it exists, is made up of loosely affiliated anti-fascist activists. There is no budget. There is no membership list. There are no offices or headquarters. There are no staffers, leaders or board members.
At some level, Trump really ought to understand this: He announced more than five years ago that he was designating antifa as a terrorist organization, and the effort was a counterproductive bust.
The second problem is that the president is trying to use a power he does not have. As The Washington Post noted, The United States has no legal mechanism for labeling domestic organizations as terrorist groups. Administrations can label nonstate adversaries overseas as foreign terrorist organizations, but there is no domestic equivalent in U.S. law......
Arguably the biggest problem with Trumps declaration is that its vague: Its not at all clear how the White House intends to go after antifa, or who'll even meet the standards for affiliation.
As we discussed last week, if the White House says that antifa members are terrorists and the White House says it will decide on its own who and what qualifies as antifa affiliates this can get scary in a hurry as the administration eyes fishing expeditions into progressive donors and activists under the guise of anti-antifa investigations.
Indeed, NOTUS reported this week that the White Houses designation is causing some groups to worry that theyll be targeted because they publicly condemn fascism.
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sboatcar
(654 posts)1. I think they just give him a pen to play with
And no one does much with those orders, since they're all likely illegal
superpatriotman
(6,755 posts)2. The administration specializes in 'vague'
Eom
struggle4progress
(124,646 posts)3. "My administration will use our full powers to stop the Illuminati!
Bigfoot and UFOs --- you're next!"
werdna
(1,116 posts)4. It's a power play to -
- enable his administration to label any dissenting voice as "anti-fa(ascist) and arrest, imprison and possibly exterminate them.