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senseandsensibility

(23,980 posts)
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:29 PM Wednesday

The corporate media does not seem to agree with Aaron Rupar's warning here. Do you?

Aaron Rupar : You cannot trust information coming from Kash Patel's FBI. You cannot trust information coming from ICE. You cannot trust information coming from Republicans."

Not only does the corporate media not seem to agree with Rupar, they seem to not even be aware that anyone in this administration has a poor track record when it comes to honesty. They fall all over themselves to report whatever they are spouting on social media as gospel.

So although the shooter has been identified and was a registered independent who relatives say was not politically involved, they will report whatever the administration tells them to report unquestioningly.

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The corporate media does not seem to agree with Aaron Rupar's warning here. Do you? (Original Post) senseandsensibility Wednesday OP
I know, I'm tired of the reporting on this. I don't believe a thing coming out of this administration, why should we? Walleye Wednesday #1
I believe Nothing, Nada, Zilch from TSF nor any agency in his administration. iluvtennis Wednesday #17
Reporters know how to vet information ificandream Wednesday #21
No, I trust the reporters, I don't trust the current FBI Walleye Thursday #27
It is not a matter of AGREEING with him or not. The corporate media doesn't CARE. RockRaven Wednesday #2
Maybe I am giving them too much credit senseandsensibility Wednesday #3
The corporate Republican owned/operated mass media popsdenver Wednesday #16
Actually, they care a lot. ificandream Wednesday #22
It's as if the last 30 years have taught them nothing muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #4
Yes senseandsensibility Wednesday #5
Winnebagos of Death! BidenRocks Wednesday #6
Of course. choie Wednesday #7
Everything about illegitimate Presidents is illegitimate. czarjak Wednesday #8
LOL Skittles Wednesday #9
Anyone who wants real information. ificandream Wednesday #23
I smell a rat. A big fat Kash Patel shaped rat. Ray Bruns Wednesday #10
I trust Just Jerome Wednesday #11
What shooter? I looked at LBN....🤷‍♀️ littlemissmartypants Wednesday #12
Yes, he killed one detainee and injured two others. chowder66 Wednesday #14
Thanks. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Wednesday #18
As I wrote in my letter to the GM of my Sinclair ABC affliate pat_k Wednesday #13
Also undeniable... Dark n Stormy Knight Wednesday #19
You mean Elle Reeve of CNN? Yes, she's a good one. ificandream Wednesday #24
Yes. pat_k Thursday #26
Stenographers n/t BaronChocula Wednesday #15
Corporate media is complicit with the destruction of our democracy. spanone Wednesday #20
You can pin the blame on the fox propaganda network for starters. ificandream Wednesday #25

Walleye

(42,630 posts)
1. I know, I'm tired of the reporting on this. I don't believe a thing coming out of this administration, why should we?
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:34 PM
Wednesday

They lost the benefit of a doubt years ago

ificandream

(11,409 posts)
21. Reporters know how to vet information
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 11:31 PM
Wednesday

You didn't give any specific examples, but when a story breaks social media is sometimes all that's available. Such information will be noted as such. Reporters know that social media is not the best source.

RockRaven

(18,073 posts)
2. It is not a matter of AGREEING with him or not. The corporate media doesn't CARE.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:35 PM
Wednesday

They are perfectly aware how full of shit this administration is. They have zero compunction behaving as stenographers and amplifiers of that bullshit. They judge it to be in their interests to do so.

They are not dumb, or oblivious, or confused. They are purposeful, and deliberate, and knowing.

Treat their work product accordingly.

senseandsensibility

(23,980 posts)
3. Maybe I am giving them too much credit
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:39 PM
Wednesday

or maybe I was being slightly tongue in cheek. I do agree that they are pretending not to know that the info coming from this administration should be fact checked relentlessly before it is reported.

popsdenver

(532 posts)
16. The corporate Republican owned/operated mass media
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 04:52 PM
Wednesday

was extremely complicit in bringing the Repubs/Trump to where they are today.......AND KEEPING HIM THERE for their own special interests and Uber rich oligarchs and keeping the top 1%ers in place and prospering immensely every day.............

ificandream

(11,409 posts)
22. Actually, they care a lot.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 11:33 PM
Wednesday

Of course, it depends on the source, but the so-called "legacy media" do care and vet things pretty thoroughly most of the time. Sure things fall through the cracks, but not usually.

Again it depends on the source. I wish threads like this would be more specific than just generally whining about the media. Donald Trump thanks you for threads like this.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,833 posts)
4. It's as if the last 30 years have taught them nothing
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:42 PM
Wednesday

(maybe much longer - Watergate, the Iran-Contra scam ...)

In the early 2000s, U.S. president George W. Bush and British prime minister Tony Blair both falsely asserted that Saddam's weapons programs were still active and large stockpiles of WMD were hidden in Iraq. Inspections by the UN to resolve the status of unresolved disarmament questions restarted between November 2002 and March 2003, under United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441, which demanded Hussein provide "immediate, unconditional and active cooperation" to UN and IAEA inspections. The United States asserted that Hussein's lack of cooperation was a breach of Resolution 1441, but failed to convince the United Nations Security Council to pass a new resolution authorizing the use of force. Despite this, Bush asserted peaceful measures could not disarm Iraq and launched the Iraq War. A year later, the U.S. Senate released its Report of Pre-war Intelligence on Iraq which concluded that many of the pre-war statements about Iraqi WMD were not supported by the underlying intelligence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

In a 2004 article appearing in the New York Times Magazine, Suskind wrote:

The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' [...] 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do'.

International relations scholar Fred Halliday writes that the phrase reality-based community (in contrast to faith-based community) was used "for those who did not share [the Bush administration's] international goals and aspirations". Suskind has maintained his refusal to name the speaker, but the source of the quotation was widely speculated to be Bush's senior advisor Karl Rove.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community

ificandream

(11,409 posts)
23. Anyone who wants real information.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 11:36 PM
Wednesday

Would you rather go with the fox propaganda channel? Of course not. It depends on the source we're referring to, but I'll take the NY Times and Washington Post over a lot of others.

Ray Bruns

(5,621 posts)
10. I smell a rat. A big fat Kash Patel shaped rat.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:50 PM
Wednesday

This only happened a few hours ago and they are already releasing evidence to the press?

Just Jerome

(354 posts)
11. I trust
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:54 PM
Wednesday

what my cats tell me before I trust FBI or coprolite media. Cats are asleep just now, just as are the meeja. Gods know what FBI is.

pat_k

(11,880 posts)
13. As I wrote in my letter to the GM of my Sinclair ABC affliate
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 04:26 PM
Wednesday

Letter here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10114551#post2

....
Mr. Kimmel rightfully made no assertions about the political ideology of the shooter because that ideology is not known. As Nathan Taylor Pemberton pointed out in his Sept 14, New York Times Guest Essay, Charlie Kirk's Killing and Our Poisonous Internet, "The only thing that can be said conclusively about Mr. Robinson, at this moment, is that he was a chronically online, white American male." And, as Elle Reeve, a highly regarded investigative journalist with expertise on social media's role in extremism warns us, "Be careful trying to decipher the true political beliefs of people wrapped in so many layers of irony they're not sure of their own true beliefs."
....

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,462 posts)
19. Also undeniable...
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 11:08 PM
Wednesday

Robinson was brought up in a family & community group who were awfully comfortable with, if not crazy about, guns.

Keep in mind the old saying that to a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

pat_k

(11,880 posts)
26. Yes.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:50 AM
Thursday

From Wikipedia
Before joining CNN as a correspondent in 2019, she reported on the 2017 white-nationalist Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia for HBO's Vice News Tonight. Reeve and Vice News Tonight won a Peabody Award, four Emmy Awards, and a George Polk Award for their reporting.

A PBS interview last year:
https://www.pbs.org/video/author-elle-reeve-gives-her-perspective-on-white-nationalism-wdktkq/

And her post on Twitter/x




ificandream

(11,409 posts)
25. You can pin the blame on the fox propaganda network for starters.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 11:42 PM
Wednesday

Without them, there would be no Trump presidency. Real journalists have been working their asses off reporting on Trump's sins. Ignore the opinion columns. Those are that -- opinion. Two of my favorite reporters are Carol Leonnig and Maggie Haberman. They've been doing a great job.

Remember, too, that Trump is trying to make you distrust them with all his ranting and raving about the press being the enemy of the people. That crap fits his game -- to make him the best source of information. That's what an authoritarian does.

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