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LymphocyteLover

(8,804 posts)
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 01:43 PM Wednesday

I'm a little freaked out now by this ICE shooting as now they are saying the guy was Antifa and a Communist

and he wrote anti-ICE on the bullets.

WAY too convenient. This thing stinks to heaven.

Sorry to use Alex Jones as a source but he's pretty indicative of this sort of thing. Lots of other similar posts.





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I'm a little freaked out now by this ICE shooting as now they are saying the guy was Antifa and a Communist (Original Post) LymphocyteLover Wednesday OP
It wouldn't be a 1st time Kashap mercuryblues Wednesday #1
Like Kirk's shooting, both sides are trying hard to pin it on the other side. Silent Type Wednesday #2
But the people in charge are saying the guy is a big lefty and that will be the official story to further motivate their LymphocyteLover Wednesday #9
Stephen Miller bdamomma Wednesday #33
History has shown us Keepthesoulalive Wednesday #19
"Both sides," huh? MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #55
Why is Alex Jones still allowed to spew his lies and hate? Beaverhausen Wednesday #3
because fascists are in charge LymphocyteLover Wednesday #8
Because free speech n/t SickOfTheOnePct Wednesday #26
Because he's a populist fascist and populist fascism is popular right now. Initech Wednesday #30
Money bdamomma Wednesday #34
Especially here. MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #56
There is no justice. Evrytingfinemon Thursday #70
Yes, it does stink terribly. OLDMDDEM Wednesday #4
Nothing has changed, the fascists will do whatever they want regardless of who shoots who, remember, this is nothing but ImNotGod Wednesday #5
Oh, and just happens to be educated by johnnyfins Wednesday #6
Do you get Dental with the Bullet Engraving Job? n/t leftstreet Wednesday #7
LOL! LymphocyteLover Wednesday #15
Why isn't it a proper shooting any more... regnaD kciN Wednesday #52
I see Laura Loomer is part of this. sop Wednesday #10
how so? LymphocyteLover Wednesday #13
Check out Loomer's comments on Jones' tweet in your OP. sop Wednesday #17
"They" say Traildogbob Wednesday #11
I wouldn't put it past those two idiots to plant evidence. Initech Wednesday #12
Was he a Pinko Commie, or the generic variety? bucolic_frolic Wednesday #14
How about these guys? : EX500rider Wednesday #41
When they live in socialist houses and shun private possessions bucolic_frolic Wednesday #42
Another meme shooter. carpetbagger Wednesday #16
Yeah, that meme on his FB page (if it's really his) signals meme culture. yardwork Wednesday #21
He was a registered Independent Quiet Em Wednesday #18
Texas doesn't register voters by party. I bet this is just another poor guy with mental issues and a gun. Silent Type Wednesday #25
Yes, it certainly seems that way. Quiet Em Wednesday #28
RW attention whores always write in the concrete while it is still wet, so that RockRaven Wednesday #20
If it comes from Jones, Patel or Bondi, I'll dismiss until proven otherwise Torchlight Wednesday #22
My sentiments exactly, MarineCombatEngineer Wednesday #23
Why would "Antifa" be shooting immigrants FalloutShelter Wednesday #24
To throw everyone off the scent! durablend Wednesday #27
Sneaky bastards. FalloutShelter Wednesday #36
Somebody who was anti-ICE as alleged, would not shoot detainees Wiz Imp Wednesday #31
We were sharing the same thought, at the same time. yellow dahlia Wednesday #35
Shooter "Not Especially Political" Deep State Witch Wednesday #29
I share your concern. yellow dahlia Wednesday #32
We obviously have no idea what his motive was... SickOfTheOnePct Wednesday #39
Exactly. yellow dahlia Wednesday #46
Raises hand... misanthrope Wednesday #58
Could well be n/t SickOfTheOnePct Wednesday #61
I suppose if there were ICE Agents standing close to the detainees Wiz Imp Wednesday #45
Right. yellow dahlia Wednesday #47
His own brother has been quoted as saying Joshua Jahns was a bad shot MichMan Thursday #68
Sometimes People Just Snap OC375 Wednesday #37
This trend has been happening for a while newdeal2 Wednesday #40
the Communist party bigtree Wednesday #38
They certainly quick to get out this propaganda! kimbutgar Wednesday #43
Why do the Repubics The Wizard Wednesday #44
The Times They Are A-Changing DET Wednesday #48
Yes and... llmart Wednesday #67
The Trump DOJ is not a reliable source for accurate information. BannonsLiver Wednesday #49
That is a a REALLY badly photoshop of Marvel's Hercules MurrayDelph Wednesday #50
He murdered immigrants. Not ice agents. SSJVegeta Wednesday #51
Very coincidental, ain't it. haele Wednesday #53
It's Hercules from Marvel comics obamanut2012 Wednesday #59
If Trump and his goons can trigger a civil war, they will make a case to delay elections. Doodley Wednesday #54
It was staged. If the guy was anti-ICE, why did he .... Bread and Circuses Wednesday #57
Well, they had to deploy a different script this time misanthrope Wednesday #60
Isn't it obvious that the right is going to immediately blame Wiz Imp Wednesday #62
IOW another white guy with a gun Hassler Wednesday #63
I wish people would stop "freaking out" over shit that hasn't happened yet FrankBooth Wednesday #64
Fair enough. But I do fear how they keep manufacturing/manipulating these events that together LymphocyteLover Wednesday #66
they will do that anyway FrankBooth Thursday #71
They always blame antifa, communists and the left. That's their go to. Autumn Wednesday #65
I'm going to assume that everything is a false flag until proven otherwise. Crunchy Frog Thursday #69

LymphocyteLover

(8,804 posts)
9. But the people in charge are saying the guy is a big lefty and that will be the official story to further motivate their
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 01:51 PM
Wednesday

attacks on the left

bdamomma

(69,050 posts)
33. Stephen Miller
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:43 PM
Wednesday

won't be happy until there is an all-out pitting Americans against Americans. He's just itching to call the insurrection act then martial law.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,844 posts)
19. History has shown us
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 01:57 PM
Wednesday

That most terrorist shootings are by white males. Most democrats had a wait and see attitude but it was the right that wanted to kill leftists. Oh Antifa is now the right wing boogeyman. There is no both sides. It’s just a bunch of right wing stooges and a complicit media.

Initech

(106,415 posts)
30. Because he's a populist fascist and populist fascism is popular right now.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:41 PM
Wednesday

Fuck Steve Bannon and fuck Donald Trump!

 

Evrytingfinemon

(12 posts)
70. There is no justice.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:16 AM
Thursday

I know I am beating a dead horse and that horse called Justice for All has and always will be dead before it ever was written.

ImNotGod

(1,146 posts)
5. Nothing has changed, the fascists will do whatever they want regardless of who shoots who, remember, this is nothing but
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 01:48 PM
Wednesday

a tRump fascist reality show.

johnnyfins

(2,960 posts)
6. Oh, and just happens to be educated by
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 01:48 PM
Wednesday

A "Solar" company?? Come on. Why did he shoot detainees, then??

Traildogbob

(11,902 posts)
11. "They" say
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 01:52 PM
Wednesday

FBI, ATF, Dallas Police, HHS, Alex, Ka$h, and Fux. Well then, it’s settled as fact. No lying among those good Christian’s. When KKKaroLYIN, says it, it will be factual, she wear a cross.

bucolic_frolic

(52,495 posts)
14. Was he a Pinko Commie, or the generic variety?
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 01:54 PM
Wednesday

There are no commies anymore. Socialists exist, but communism is all but defunct.

yardwork

(68,145 posts)
21. Yeah, that meme on his FB page (if it's really his) signals meme culture.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:08 PM
Wednesday

We can't conclude beyond that. The kids tossing these memes around aren't aligned with any particular group or ideology. They think everything is a joke.

Silent Type

(11,261 posts)
25. Texas doesn't register voters by party. I bet this is just another poor guy with mental issues and a gun.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:34 PM
Wednesday

Quiet Em

(2,296 posts)
28. Yes, it certainly seems that way.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:40 PM
Wednesday

Reports are he was living in Durant, Oklahoma. That could be where he was registered to vote.

RockRaven

(18,076 posts)
20. RW attention whores always write in the concrete while it is still wet, so that
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:07 PM
Wednesday

the useful narrative gets locked in their audience's minds before any inconvenient truths become known.

Torchlight

(5,720 posts)
22. If it comes from Jones, Patel or Bondi, I'll dismiss until proven otherwise
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:11 PM
Wednesday

RW leadership exploits its position to affix blame while Statler and Waldorf assert that idle speculation on a message board is just as egregious.

MarineCombatEngineer

(16,022 posts)
23. My sentiments exactly,
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:13 PM
Wednesday

until I hear it from a legitimate source, and in this regime, I don't know who that would be, I'll continue to be highly skeptical of any statement coming from them.

Wiz Imp

(7,519 posts)
31. Somebody who was anti-ICE as alleged, would not shoot detainees
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:42 PM
Wednesday

If they were to shoot at anyone, they'd shoot at ICE themselves.

yellow dahlia

(3,175 posts)
35. We were sharing the same thought, at the same time.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:46 PM
Wednesday

Like I said, they never let logic dissuade from their narrative.

Deep State Witch

(12,253 posts)
29. Shooter "Not Especially Political"
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:40 PM
Wednesday

According to NBC News, who spoke to the shooter's brother, he was "not especially political"

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/dallas-ice-facility-shooting-rcna233385/rcrd89359?canonicalCard=true

ICE facility in Dallas said his brother was not especially interested in politics and had not voiced opinions to his family opposing the federal immigration enforcement agency.

The suspect, Joshua Jahn, 29, allegedly shot himself after opening fire on the facility Wednesday, killing two ICE detainees and wounding one other. Law enforcement officials said bullets recovered near the shooter’s body had “anti-ICE messages” scrawled on them.

“He didn’t have strong feelings about ICE as far as I knew,” said Noah Jahn, Joshua’s older brother.

NBC News spoke to Noah Jahn before he had gotten word that his brother was identified as the shooter. Noah described his brother as “unique” without elaborating. But he said Joshua was not one he would have ever thought would be involved in a politically motivated shooting.

“I didn’t think he was politically interested,” Noah Jahn said. “He wasn’t interested in politics on either side as far as I knew.”

yellow dahlia

(3,175 posts)
32. I share your concern.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:43 PM
Wednesday

But here is the logical question. If he were a "lefty", why didn't he kill the ICE agents instead of the detainees?

Of course the RW propaganda feedback loop never lets logic or facts get in the way of their narrative.

They keep coming up with scenarios to try and go after the "left". They aren't working (Egs: Butler, PA; Kirk shooting) , so they keep looking for more.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,671 posts)
39. We obviously have no idea what his motive was...
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:07 PM
Wednesday

...but we also don't know (or at least I haven't seen it) how far away he was and whether or not he'd had much exposure to firearms, trained to shoot, hunting, etc.

Distance and skill contributes to being able to hit the "correct" target, for lack of a better term.

Wiz Imp

(7,519 posts)
45. I suppose if there were ICE Agents standing close to the detainees
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:41 PM
Wednesday

He could have missed his target by being a poor shot. But I've seen nothing yet that would support or disprove that.

MichMan

(16,001 posts)
68. His own brother has been quoted as saying Joshua Jahns was a bad shot
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:18 AM
Thursday

I assume he probably knows him as well as anyone.

OC375

(284 posts)
37. Sometimes People Just Snap
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:02 PM
Wednesday

I wish everyone would wait a good 48 hours before anything substantial is released to the public. I can't think of a single recent tragedy that hasn't been reported "wrong" initially, and all the requisite nashing of teeth as the blame ball moves this direction and that which inevitably follows. It's, frankly, embarrassing and dehumanizing and we should be better than that.

newdeal2

(4,221 posts)
40. This trend has been happening for a while
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:08 PM
Wednesday

We used to be concerned about the victims mostly at first and let the investigation unfold. Now it’s people pointing fingers based on old Facebook posts or voter rolls.

kimbutgar

(26,136 posts)
43. They certainly quick to get out this propaganda!
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:22 PM
Wednesday

Perhaps to make the media not talk about this orange turds horrible speech at the UN and how he is making the US a pariah nation.

I think the bullets are bs and the photo is staged by google eyed Patel and his minions.

DET

(2,230 posts)
48. The Times They Are A-Changing
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 04:18 PM
Wednesday

I think we can expect an event of this nature each time Trump makes a fool of himself in public - which means almost daily. Of course, it will be so ineptly done and badly staged that anyone with two brain cells can see right through it. Which means that the MAGAts will fall for it every time.

llmart

(16,881 posts)
67. Yes and...
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 09:05 PM
Wednesday

EPSTEIN, EPSTEIN, EPSTEIN!!

They have to have a daily distraction so people don't talk about this EPSTEIN stuff so much.

BannonsLiver

(19,680 posts)
49. The Trump DOJ is not a reliable source for accurate information.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 04:22 PM
Wednesday

Nobody should ever take anything they say at face value. If Patel and Pammy tell you it’s a cloudy day you best be peeking out the window.

My guess is they will have a harder time spinning up the leftistantifatransactivist narrative on this one than they did with CK. But it won’t stop them from trying. Every incident like this will be blamed on the left and they will shoe horn that by any means necessary moving forward. And I want to underscore that “by any means necessary” part.

haele

(14,635 posts)
53. Very coincidental, ain't it.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 05:17 PM
Wednesday

BTW, I saw that grinning "thumbs up" bearded communist picture has been used as part of the meme response "Cool story, Comrade Bro" years ago.
I think it came from a Manga or a graphic novel around 2005 - 2015, sometime when my stepdaughter was in middle school or high school.

Bread and Circuses

(1,187 posts)
57. It was staged. If the guy was anti-ICE, why did he ....
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 05:35 PM
Wednesday

Shoot into a car? He was a Roof? He would have a clear shoot at the agents.

And writing Anti-Ice on a bullet, is way too convenient.

misanthrope

(9,188 posts)
60. Well, they had to deploy a different script this time
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 05:48 PM
Wednesday

They used transphobia last time. You don't want the audience to get bored, after all.

This time they are pulling out the traditional "Communist" angle (because some hits always produce) and pairing it with The Big Oompa's recent imperial decree slapping antifa with a new designation as "terrorist." In the corporate world, they might have called it synergy, you see.

Wiz Imp

(7,519 posts)
62. Isn't it obvious that the right is going to immediately blame
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 06:01 PM
Wednesday

EVERY shooting for the future on "radical leftists"? It's what they do. They don't care about the truth. Everything must be politicized against their "enemies". Nobody should ever get freaked out by that - 99% of the time their claims will be wrong.

FrankBooth

(1,844 posts)
64. I wish people would stop "freaking out" over shit that hasn't happened yet
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 06:41 PM
Wednesday

Of course they are going to blame the left for the incident, whether it's true (which is rare) or not, in which case they will just BLAME US ANYWAY (which is what happens most of the time.)

Our side has to stop freaking out over these things, it doesn't help and in fact is exactly what they want us to be...reactive and off balance. It makes us look bad to always be freaking out about things we have no control over.

LymphocyteLover

(8,804 posts)
66. Fair enough. But I do fear how they keep manufacturing/manipulating these events that together
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 09:00 PM
Wednesday

they will use as a pretext to further and more extreme fascist clampdowns

FrankBooth

(1,844 posts)
71. they will do that anyway
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:14 PM
Thursday

They will seize on any news and twist and distort it, whether the news is real or manufactured...that's a given. All we can do is control how we react to their manipulation and lies.

Autumn

(48,395 posts)
65. They always blame antifa, communists and the left. That's their go to.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 07:54 PM
Wednesday

but they lie about everything so who cares. As dor the bullet casing I haven't seen one yet so I know that's a lie just like the guy who killed Kirk supposedly signed his bullets. I have seen no proof at all. They lie.

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