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WiVoter

(1,479 posts)
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:27 PM Tuesday

Why Is The Orange Turd Lying About Tylenol?

What does he gain? Why Tylenol specifically? What do you think DU?

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Why Is The Orange Turd Lying About Tylenol? (Original Post) WiVoter Tuesday OP
Because he's repeating what brain worm told him. nt iemanja Tuesday #1
Because he can't pronounce acetaminophen. Hugin Tuesday #2
another DUer theorized it is something to do with Barron Skittles Tuesday #3
Extortion of Big Pharma. Irish_Dem Tuesday #4
Tylenol has handled worse and survived dweller Tuesday #5
Another attempted diversion from the Epstein files. Dave Bowman Tuesday #6
Yips d each time the distraction(s) don't work WiVoter Tuesday #9
There's gotta be money flowing oldtime dfl_er Tuesday #7
Saw an article header that Dr. Oz has an alternative to Acetaminophen that he peddles. Attilatheblond Tuesday #8
A little more posted here. BootinUp Tuesday #15
Thank you. I did finally have time to track it down. Not a tylenol alternative, but a possible fix for some autism Attilatheblond Tuesday #19
I also read that Dr. Oz was pushing a treatment for autism TexasBushwhacker Tuesday #20
Why did he suggest injecting bleach to cure COVID? Ms. Toad Tuesday #10
Epstein. yourout Tuesday #11
Money DaBronx Tuesday #12
MAHA industry is huge and growing Johonny Tuesday #13
they lost their collective minds when Michelle Obama suggested better nutrition Skittles Tuesday #16
Could be as simple as he watched a movie about the Tylenol murders so is fixated on it? Blues Heron Tuesday #14
Netflix is currently streaming a docuseries about the Tylenol murders Iris Tuesday #17
He wants more pain and suffering Coventina Tuesday #18
A ton of put options on Kenvue, owner of the brand. Frasier Balzov Tuesday #21
They latched onto a recent review and can't grasp that correlation doesn't mean causation. pat_k Tuesday #22
Because even RFK's shills rejected making a public health statement that vaccines cause autism. pat_k Tuesday #23

Hugin

(36,901 posts)
2. Because he can't pronounce acetaminophen.
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:28 PM
Tuesday

Beyond that rest assured that somewhere a grift is involved.

Skittles

(167,726 posts)
3. another DUer theorized it is something to do with Barron
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:28 PM
Tuesday

he needs someone to blame - Cadet Bonespurs telling pregnant gals to "tough it out" is very telling indeed

Irish_Dem

(75,383 posts)
4. Extortion of Big Pharma.
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:31 PM
Tuesday

Warning them he will destroy them if they don't pay up.
And pay big.

WiVoter

(1,479 posts)
9. Yips d each time the distraction(s) don't work
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:42 PM
Tuesday

He'll try something more & more desperate & more often.

Attilatheblond

(7,335 posts)
8. Saw an article header that Dr. Oz has an alternative to Acetaminophen that he peddles.
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:41 PM
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Didn't get a chance to read the article. Is he selling alternative snake oil, err, meds?

Attilatheblond

(7,335 posts)
19. Thank you. I did finally have time to track it down. Not a tylenol alternative, but a possible fix for some autism
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 10:53 PM
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And good ol OZ has a stake in getting sale approved. Que surprise.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,019 posts)
20. I also read that Dr. Oz was pushing a treatment for autism
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 10:54 PM
Tuesday

called Folinic Acid. It's the biologically active form of folate (Vitamin B9). A small subset of people on the autism spectrum do show a shortage of folinic acid in their brains and sometimes show improvement by take the supplement. It is, by no means, a cure all, but that doesn't mean Oz won't bank a few million selling his snake oil.

Ms. Toad

(37,725 posts)
10. Why did he suggest injecting bleach to cure COVID?
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:45 PM
Tuesday

Why does he think asylum is related to Hannibal Lecter? He doesn't need a reason. Some little thing pops into his mind and it morphs into something only tangentially related to the original thing, and it sticks.

If you mean why Tylenol, rather than some other brand of acetaminophen, it is that despite his self-acclaimed business acumen, he really has none. He doesn't understand that Tylenol is a registered trademark, and refers to acetaminophen manufactured by a specific company. (As to that, he isn't the only one - I've seen news organizations who ought to know better - and even Kenvue (the owner of the mark) - messed that one up . . . I was surprised that Johnson and Johnson didn't have better IP counsel to review their announcement, but it makes more sense now that I see that it is no longer owned by J&J)

Johonny

(24,775 posts)
13. MAHA industry is huge and growing
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 10:05 PM
Tuesday

And they want the cult off real medicine and into fake expensive MAHA medicine.

It really is a favor to the leaches in the MAHA movement. Who are also just as horrible a human being as Trump, so he likes them.

Blues Heron

(7,624 posts)
14. Could be as simple as he watched a movie about the Tylenol murders so is fixated on it?
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 10:07 PM
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Just like Alcatraz- he watched escape from Alcatraz, suddenly he has to reopen it.

Frasier Balzov

(4,582 posts)
21. A ton of put options on Kenvue, owner of the brand.
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 11:08 PM
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Put options go up in value dramatically when the market price of the stock crashes.

And what Trump and Kennedy did was easy for government officials to do. They crashed the stock.

In the old days, the SEC would be investigating any unusual volume of options purchased ahead of major news affecting the stock.

The SEC will not be investigating this.

pat_k

(11,884 posts)
22. They latched onto a recent review and can't grasp that correlation doesn't mean causation.
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 11:13 PM
Tuesday

Some bits and pieces from AI

Observational studies using large population data have found a statistical association between a mother's prolonged acetaminophen use during pregnancy and a slightly increased risk of ASD and ADHD in children.

A review, co-authored by Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health Dean Andrea Baccarelli and published in Environmental Health in August 2025, also highlighted an association between prenatal acetaminophen use and neurodevelopmental disorders. They emphasize that correlation does not equal causation, and the link is likely due to other confounding factors.

A 2024 study in JAMA examined health records for nearly 2.5 million children in Sweden, including sibling pairs.

While initial models without sibling controls showed a marginal increase in risk, the association disappeared when researchers compared siblings where one was exposed to acetaminophen in the womb and the other was not.

The sibling-comparison method is considered more reliable because it controls for shared genetic and environmental factors that are difficult to measure in other types of studies.


It also needs to be noted that the slight association was found with prolonged use -- i.e., more than 10 days and some more than 4 weeks. Having ruled out acetaminophen as a causal agent, the general speculation is that the correlation may be related to the underlying condition the expectant mother was taking the acetaminophen to manage.

And it should also be noted, that pain increases cortisol as part of the stress response, as well as chemicals that have their own associated risks. An uncontrolled fever presents a risk too.

pat_k

(11,884 posts)
23. Because even RFK's shills rejected making a public health statement that vaccines cause autism.
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 11:44 PM
Tuesday

This is speculation,** but my bet is that they were presented actual data by qualified people they had not yet fired and decided they didn't have a basis on which to declare, As An Official Public Health Agency, that vaccines cause of autism. It's one thing to be an idiot asserting it is a book or a podcast. But even idiots sometimes recognize such a conclusion by DHS can't be baseless.

So, they were stuck. They pretty much announced that RFK would have the cause of autism all nailed down in a few months. If not vaccines, than what?

Presto. A review is published by Harvard showing a slight statistical association between prenatal Tylenol use and autism. Doesn't matter to them that the notion that the association was causal had already been ruled out by sibling studies that controlled for confounding factors (and RFK is so confounded by everything, he is incapable of grasping the concept of confounding factors in a scientific study).

So, they get all excited. This is the smoking gun!!! And Trump says "I got a big announcement Monday" and so they announce they have discovered the cause of autism. Done and dusted.

**It's speculation, but not out of nowhere. I know that after several presentations, RFK's vaccine commission, or study group, or whatever the shills are called, backed off voting on changing guidance on vaccines because a few of them noticed that they actually had absolutely no basis on which to make the changes they were happily planning to make.

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