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Tommy Carcetti

(44,236 posts) Tue Sep 23, 2025, 08:43 PM Tuesday

People may be misreading what appears to be a goodwill message from Trump to Ukraine

Link to tweet

Yes, Trump seems on the surface to be expressing a desire to see Ukraine keep fighting, maybe even reclaim its lost territory. And he seems to hint at internal problems within Russia and its economy.

But he doesn’t give any specific proposals about the US continuing to help Ukraine.

Rather, all he says is that the US will provide weapons to NATO countries, and if those countries want to help Ukraine, they are more than welcome to do so.

But he’s essentially washing his own hands of responsibility or further action on the part of the US.

This seems to be underscored by his “Good luck to all” at the end.

Basically he appears to be saying, “Ukraine, if you want to keep fighting for your country, you can. And maybe Europe will help you. But you’re not my problem. Good luck storming the castle!”

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People may be misreading what appears to be a goodwill message from Trump to Ukraine (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti Tuesday OP

At least he didn't close with "Thank you for your attention to this matter." Ocelot II Tuesday #1

DUH.............. Lovie777 Tuesday #2

"Ukraine with the help of the European Union," not NATO! SheltieLover Tuesday #3

+1 dalton99a Tuesday #5

You mean that he didn't end the war in Ukraine as promised in 24 hours or before taking office? Ping Tung Tuesday #4

Wasn't there some deadline he gave Putin for something ? JI7 Tuesday #6

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Ocelot II

(127,439 posts)

1. At least he didn't close with "Thank you for your attention to this matter."

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Tue Sep 23, 2025, 08:45 PM

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Lovie777

(20,476 posts)

2. DUH..............

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Tue Sep 23, 2025, 08:45 PM

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minerals.

SheltieLover

(73,944 posts)

3. "Ukraine with the help of the European Union," not NATO!

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Tue Sep 23, 2025, 08:47 PM

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dalton99a

(90,414 posts)

5. +1

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Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:12 PM

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Ping Tung

(3,724 posts)

4. You mean that he didn't end the war in Ukraine as promised in 24 hours or before taking office?

Reply to Tommy Carcetti (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:03 PM

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I guess Zelensky and Putin were unaware of the end and just kept shooting.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/25/politics/fact-check-trump-ukraine-war

Fact check: It wasn’t ‘in jest.’ Here are 53 times Trump said he’d end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking office

On the campaign trail in 2023 and 2024, Trump said on dozens of occasions, in an entirely serious tone, manner and context, that he would end the war in Ukraine either within 24 hours of his return to the White House or even sooner than that. He said over and over again, including at both presidential debates of 2024, that he would have the war “settled” when he was president-elect, before his inauguration.

A Friday search of the Roll Call Factba.se database that catalogues Trump’s public remarks turned up at least 53 examples of Trump making such comments.

It’s sometimes hard to determine the intent of a politician’s one-time ad-libs, but this was no jovial ad-lib. Rather, the promise of a rapid end to the war was a sober staple of Trump’s pre-written rally remarks. He framed the promise as a key component of his second-term agenda, and he justified it with claims about his “credibility” as a leader, his history as a “peacemaker,” and his knowledge of Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Trump sometimes emphasized that he was speaking literally, scoffing at critics who said he couldn’t end the war that fast. “I’ll get that done within 24 hours. Everyone says, ‘Oh, no, you can’t.’ Absolutely I can. Absolutely I can,” he said at one July 2023 rally in Iowa. He said at a Pennsylvania rally later that month: “Before I even arrive at the Oval Office, shortly after we all together win the presidency, we will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine settled. It will be settled. The war is going to be settled. I’ll get them both – I know Zelensky, I know Putin, it’ll be done within 24 hours, you watch. They all say, ‘That’s such a boast.’ It will be done very quickly.”

The full list of the 53 occasions that he promised is in the link

JI7

(92,704 posts)

6. Wasn't there some deadline he gave Putin for something ?

Reply to Tommy Carcetti (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:59 PM

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Didn't it just pass with Putin not doing what he was supposed to do and Trump just ignored it ?

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