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D_Master81

(2,218 posts)
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 12:44 PM Monday

Imagine for a minute 15 years ago

I want you to think back to better times in the early days of the Obama era and imagine a scenario where President Obama would be speaking at a funeral and to say “I hate my opponents, I want no good for them”. The immediate outrage all over the country and the media would’ve have been deafening. The President essentially admitting that he hates half the country and wishing ill will on them. Admitting what we all know, he’s only President for those that support him. If you’re his “opponent” go F yourself he doesn’t care for you and wants your life to have nothing good in it. This monster. And to do it at a celebration of someone’s life too, what a sick person. It’s amazing how desensitized this country is to Trump’s BS that this barely gets a mention let alone outrage from what I saw this morning.

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Imagine for a minute 15 years ago (Original Post) D_Master81 Monday OP
Corporate media nearly derailed Obama's candidacy over Rev. Wright's statements about America's treatment of blacks. sop Monday #1
A speech for the history books. mobeau69 Monday #20
Imagine for a minute 79 years ago Coldwater Monday #2
Did that really happen (or did you just imagine it)... CTyankee Monday #8
It could have happened Coldwater Monday #19
Basket of deplorables Johnny2X2X Monday #3
Hillary had to walk a fine line or be called the b word. Not at all fair but definitely a restraint. twodogsbarking Monday #4
Plus there were far more deplorables than Hillary ever imagined. Gimpyknee Monday #5
A Dumpster of deplorables. nt eppur_se_muova Monday #11
"Admitting he's only President for those that support him" PatSeg Monday #6
He's definitely the perfect example of a ReRe Monday #13
Excellent analogy PatSeg Monday #23
Tan suit n/t hibbing Monday #7
Dijon Mustard. Michelle had "yoga arms." They are sharks. They never sleep. Evolve Dammit Monday #10
Michelle's sleeveless dresses. The length of the girls skirts. mobeau69 Monday #21
That was such an embarrassment! calimary Monday #22
Yeah, how dare he wear a suit that is lighter PatSeg Monday #24
Given that 66% oppose Christian Nationalism, 47 hates a good bit more than half. pat_k Monday #9
Thank you. BadgerMom Monday #14
Yes. It is very frustrating. pat_k Monday #17
A couple related replies in other threads pat_k Monday #18
Remember, with Trump it's always all about him. patphil Monday #12
Neither the Obamas nor the Bidens would ever behave so disgracefully... 3catwoman3 Monday #15
Trump's behavior is exactly why I feel nothing but true desire to see him dead as soon as naturally possibly, Moostache Monday #16
Interviewee on NPR said: "It was a joke." Interviewer: Didn't sound like a joke. Festivito Monday #25
He doesn't care about his supporters either. returnee Tuesday #26

sop

(16,202 posts)
1. Corporate media nearly derailed Obama's candidacy over Rev. Wright's statements about America's treatment of blacks.
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 01:10 PM
Monday

Obama never made or agreed with those statements, he simply attended Rev. Wright's church in Chicago. Still, Obama had to address the "controversy" in his 'A More Perfect Union' speech, then later was forced to disavow Wright.

Coldwater

(225 posts)
2. Imagine for a minute 79 years ago
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 01:12 PM
Monday

When Fred Trump had a sit-down with his pregnant wife Elizabeth on whether they want to keep the baby or have an abortion,

An illegal abortion for sure, but that never stopped Fred.



twodogsbarking

(15,978 posts)
4. Hillary had to walk a fine line or be called the b word. Not at all fair but definitely a restraint.
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 01:24 PM
Monday

Trump is unrestrained. He's "un' a lot of things. Not the least of which is "unfit".

PatSeg

(51,022 posts)
6. "Admitting he's only President for those that support him"
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 01:50 PM
Monday

But not really for many of them either. Trump is for Trump and his wealthy donors. He doesn't even care for those who voted for him as his policies have shown. He asked for their votes and then signed legislation that hurts them.

PatSeg

(51,022 posts)
23. Excellent analogy
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 04:51 PM
Monday

He definitely reminds me of an abusive spouse with the gaslighting and broken promises.

calimary

(87,927 posts)
22. That was such an embarrassment!
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 03:17 PM
Monday

Throwing a public shit fit because the President wore a tan suit. W. T. F. ???

It was years ago and I still can’t believe it happened. It wasn’t the color of the suit. I think it was the color of the skin of the man wearing that suit.

PatSeg

(51,022 posts)
24. Yeah, how dare he wear a suit that is lighter
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 04:54 PM
Monday

than his skin? They hated him with a passion - too young, smart, personable, and good looking. They are destroyers who build absolutely nothing.

pat_k

(11,884 posts)
9. Given that 66% oppose Christian Nationalism, 47 hates a good bit more than half.
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 02:13 PM
Monday

According to a February 2025 survey from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI), about two-thirds of Americans (66%) oppose Christian nationalism.

And of course, if any of the horrible things that fall out of 47's sick brain and out his mouth were said by any Democrat, that Democrat would be toast.

BadgerMom

(3,326 posts)
14. Thank you.
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 02:45 PM
Monday

That reference to half the country bothered me, too. I’m glad I’m not the only one.

They want us to think they’re the larger group. They are not.

pat_k

(11,884 posts)
17. Yes. It is very frustrating.
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 02:57 PM
Monday

The way some* of our electeds are talking it sounds to me like they've accepted that we are a majority Christian Nationalist nation and so they feel they need to try to "win over" those people. Give it the f up. There is no appeasing them and a vast majority oppose them!

Sometimes I just want to scream at some* of our Democratic electeds "For Goodness Sake, BE PROUD OF WHO HATES YOU!"**

*I know we have plenty who get it right. But I think the ones who get it wrong stand out to me -- sort of like fingernails on a chalk board.

** A little corollary. If a group hates you and you suspect they have a point, perhaps rethink what you are doing.

patphil

(8,300 posts)
12. Remember, with Trump it's always all about him.
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 02:16 PM
Monday

He was only there because he knew it would help him with his base.
He doesn't love anyone but himself, and so he's your friend until you do something to anger him, then he attacks.
He resents and replays any and all slights, and looks for the time when he can punish those "wrong doers" who hurt him.
Charlie Kirk's farewell was just another opportunity for him to do what he always does.

3catwoman3

(27,787 posts)
15. Neither the Obamas nor the Bidens would ever behave so disgracefully...
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 02:52 PM
Monday

...in public, no matter how they felt. In private, I do hope they had ways to let it all out.

Moostache

(10,814 posts)
16. Trump's behavior is exactly why I feel nothing but true desire to see him dead as soon as naturally possibly,
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 02:55 PM
Monday

I am not rooting for him to be assassinated, just rooting for him to have his party invitation revoked by nature.

The rest of us will be left to clean up the mess, and eventually the party will resume, it just won't include him - and that is an objectively good thing.

The Divided States of Trump's America do not need any more of him, or his freaks in the cabinet (Vance, Miller, Bondi, Patel, RFK Jr.) or any of their Nazi rhetoric and religious bullshit seeking more power and retirbution against those who recognize them and call them out on being reincarnated Nazis. The Nazis lost once already, and they WILL lose the rematch they seem to be clamoring for as well. History will throw them all in the same trashcan eventually.

Festivito

(13,793 posts)
25. Interviewee on NPR said: "It was a joke." Interviewer: Didn't sound like a joke.
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 06:49 PM
Monday

I think right-wingers are ready to say almost anything.

returnee

(677 posts)
26. He doesn't care about his supporters either.
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 06:41 AM
Tuesday

It is abundantly clear he only cares about himself. maga is the definition of political naiveté. A large section of the rest of the populace isn’t far behind.

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