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RazorbackExpat

(621 posts)
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 08:28 AM Sep 20

Does anyone remember this quote by Karl Rove?

“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

That's America in 2025

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Does anyone remember this quote by Karl Rove? (Original Post) RazorbackExpat Sep 20 OP
I do and yes it is us right now. underpants Sep 20 #1
Oh, yeah. Create our own reality. Don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. Alternate facts. Seen this movie surfered Sep 20 #2
I remember. markodochartaigh Sep 20 #3
I had forgotten Seinan Sensei Sep 20 #17
Kellyanne Conway said the GOP can create their own alternative facts. Irish_Dem Sep 20 #4
GGG - Government Gish Gallup...nt Wounded Bear Sep 20 #5
That was the beginning of the full notsee takeover. Clouds Passing Sep 20 #6
I always... 2naSalit Sep 20 #7
... Clouds Passing Sep 20 #8
I remember W. called him Turd Blossom. tetedur Sep 20 #9
A classic ! Just Jerome Sep 20 #12
Russ Suskind spelled it out. Kid Berwyn Sep 20 #10
So listen up. Mblaze Sep 20 #11
Carl was one of those bags-of-water that actually thought extremely well of himself. chouchou Sep 20 #13
We are a dying empire. We cozy up to dictators and bronxiteforever Sep 20 #14
He also said he wanted to establish... Grumpy Old Guy Sep 20 #15
The arrogance of the man is the thing I remember most about him. patphil Sep 20 #16
Same as it ever was relayerbob Sep 20 #18
They forget that when everyone boycotts your products and currency you're a broke empire ChicagoTeamster Sep 20 #19

surfered

(9,412 posts)
2. Oh, yeah. Create our own reality. Don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. Alternate facts. Seen this movie
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 08:55 AM
Sep 20

Clouds Passing

(5,896 posts)
6. That was the beginning of the full notsee takeover.
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 10:29 AM
Sep 20

Every time I think of Karl Rove, I envision him in a notsee uniform.

Mblaze

(776 posts)
11. So listen up.
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 11:01 AM
Sep 20

Last edited Sat Sep 20, 2025, 04:23 PM - Edit history (1)

We're telling you that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.
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chouchou

(2,392 posts)
13. Carl was one of those bags-of-water that actually thought extremely well of himself.
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 11:19 AM
Sep 20

He'd figure out 4x4 is 16 and then proudly stand back, hopefully that people would clap.

bronxiteforever

(10,790 posts)
14. We are a dying empire. We cozy up to dictators and
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 11:20 AM
Sep 20

bomb fishing boats. Seems real weak if you ask me and we are a laughing stock to the world.

Grumpy Old Guy

(4,086 posts)
15. He also said he wanted to establish...
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 11:25 AM
Sep 20

...permanent Republican rule. It looks like they're almost there.

patphil

(8,291 posts)
16. The arrogance of the man is the thing I remember most about him.
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 11:35 AM
Sep 20

The fact is that we all create reality...all the time. Each of us, through our actions, create reality.
What Rove actually does is attempt to steer the collective reality in a direction he wants it to go.
This requires 10's of millions of people to consent to this pressure.
If we don't want to go in the direction he wants us to go, we need to push back hard enough to redirect the collective reality in a way that brings forth the results we want.

Right now we are side lining ourselves, and watching this right wing, fascist reality build all around us. Personally, I think they are overconfident and aren't taking into the account how much the majority of Americans like their country, and enjoy living in a reality that gives us great freedom to live our lives the way we want.
Sure, there's a lot of shit out there...inequity, hate, greed, violence, and so much more more.
But, face it, life could be a whole lot worse if we just sit back and watch it all slip away.

The Republicans are betting we won't act fast enough, and with enough resolve, to block their power grab. What they're not seeing is how their own base is beginning to stir; to feel the restrictive pinch that is slowly, but ever quickening, taking away their ability to live life the way they want to.
It's a race to the finish. Will we rise up before it's too late? Will we end up with blood in the streets, and an end of our Democratic Republic?
I sure hope we can take a stand, and put a stop to this fascist attempt to destroy our nation. We owe it to our ancestors who fought and died to make America the great nation it has been for so many years.

ChicagoTeamster

(26 posts)
19. They forget that when everyone boycotts your products and currency you're a broke empire
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 01:47 PM
Sep 20

Nobody wants to be a broke empire. The nations that traded with the US are finding alternative markets and boycotting US products. US Farmers have had $0 soybean orders from China this year. Dairy orders are also down. Bourbon sales are way down. US Former trade partners and allies are also cancelling orders for Starlink, Tesla, F35 jets, Apache helicopters, Boeing jets, John Deere and International Harvester, Ford, etc. etc.

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