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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(129,044 posts)
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 07:46 PM Sep 19

Trump's social security chief says 'everything' is on the table and retirement is about to get a 'different set of rules

Social Security faces insolvency by 2032, forcing policymakers to weigh politically fraught options like raising the retirement age, raising taxes, or adjusting benefit caps. Commissioner Frank Bisignano said “everything’s being considered,” as America’s retiree population surges. While the demographic shift threatens long-term economic sustainability, the wave of retirements is temporarily helping hold unemployment near 4.3% despite weak job growth.

Like many developed nations, the U.S. is wrangling with a complex question: How to pay for the care and support of an aging population. Many of the answers to that question won’t be popular, but governments are aware of the need to address the issue before crisis hits.

In America, that timeline is set to seven years. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that Social Security’s retirement trust funds will be insolvent by the end of 2032.

As such Trump’s Social Security Administration Commissioner, Frank Bisignano, needs to workout the landscape for the next generation of retirees.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-social-security-chief-says-153358732.html

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Trump's social security chief says 'everything' is on the table and retirement is about to get a 'different set of rules (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 19 OP
A righteously enraged army of millions will nothing to lose C_U_L8R Sep 19 #1
You can bet their retirement Traildogbob Sep 19 #5
Kick dalton99a Sep 19 #2
Gen X dweller Sep 19 #3
Kick SheltieLover Sep 19 #4
Only them doing something that monumentally stupid could once again put Florida in play for Democrats Justice Brandeis Sep 19 #6
The first sentence is bullshit... lame54 Sep 19 #7
It's accurate enough. Igel Sep 19 #11
I always knew I'd never get a dime. Didn't AI solve this problem yet? bucolic_frolic Sep 19 #8
Tons of senior citizens are going to show up for the NO KINGS protest Oct 18th BigmanPigman Sep 19 #9
Obama tried to do something, but was bashed by his own party. So, here we are. Silent Type Sep 19 #10
The Catfood Commission "Grand Bargain"? Mad_Machine76 Sep 19 #12
Yeah, apparently some Dems weren't happy with increasing benefits for those on lower end of totem pole. Silent Type Sep 19 #16
So, markodochartaigh Sep 19 #13
Or, they could tax millionaires. usedtobedemgurl Sep 19 #14
That will never happen RainCaster Sep 20 #17
Fuck your Nazi laden "table", Murdering Asshole Thieves. Cha Sep 19 #15
"Ha ha suckers. All your retirement money are belong us. Ha ha." - G.O.P. Billionaire Bros BoRaGard Sep 20 #18
Nothing is going to get done before 2032. Captain Stern Sep 20 #19
Republicans have said its unsolvent since 1970s BS Blue Full Moon Sep 20 #20
The program was in trouble in the '70's. Captain Stern Sep 20 #21
All they have to do is raise the cap for deductions. The barista puts in the same amount as Elon Musk. Vinca Sep 20 #22
That would certainly help. Captain Stern Sep 20 #23

C_U_L8R

(48,159 posts)
1. A righteously enraged army of millions will nothing to lose
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 07:50 PM
Sep 19

Republicans will be ripped from their bedrooms and offices if they fuck with everyone’s retirement savings.

Justice Brandeis

(304 posts)
6. Only them doing something that monumentally stupid could once again put Florida in play for Democrats
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:08 PM
Sep 19

Please, be my guest.

lame54

(38,463 posts)
7. The first sentence is bullshit...
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:13 PM
Sep 19

The end is near
The end is near
They've been crying this wolf for 80 years

Igel

(37,122 posts)
11. It's accurate enough.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:11 PM
Sep 19

Note that 'insolvency' does not mean that it will pay out nothing.

'Insolvency' means it will not meet its financial obligations. And that part is true, once the trust fund is exhausted and it has to rely on current revenues.

I'd note that currently to collect full benefits depends on your year of birth. For decades it was a flat age 65 that met that requirement. I'd have to wait until 66 years 10 months, and if I don't wait then I will never (according to the way the law behind the entitlement reads) collect the fully amount.

That was also when the expectancy of life at 65 was far lower and far fewer of us made it to 65. Altering the benefits schedule was part of retaining solvency for this long.

bucolic_frolic

(52,485 posts)
8. I always knew I'd never get a dime. Didn't AI solve this problem yet?
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:15 PM
Sep 19

Sorry it was not in the beginning designed to behave like an inflation-hedged annuity. It was support, for all, in old age for rent, medical bills, heat, food. We are way beyond that.

It was designed in an era of progressive taxes and a not very progressive income scale. We are way beyond that.

In the early years, all the young supported all the old, who hadn't paid in a lot because it was a new program. Now the uber wealthy don't want to support the less well-heeled. We are way beyond that.

Of course, since the Republicans will decide now, the poor will support the rich through reduced payments, and the billionaires will buy yachts to provide jobs for the young.

BigmanPigman

(53,835 posts)
9. Tons of senior citizens are going to show up for the NO KINGS protest Oct 18th
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:22 PM
Sep 19

in droves. The Hands Off protest was unusual in that many senior citizens who are GOP constituents showed up and they are pissed off. Usually senior GOP voters don't care about most issues, like abortion, gun control, climate change, etc but now that THEIR Social Security and Healthcare are in jeopardy they decide it's time to protest and voice their concerns.

Silent Type

(11,256 posts)
16. Yeah, apparently some Dems weren't happy with increasing benefits for those on lower end of totem pole.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 11:06 PM
Sep 19

markodochartaigh

(4,150 posts)
13. So,
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:47 PM
Sep 19

the share of total income for fifty years has decreased for the lower four quintiles and increased for the top quintile. The wealthy have been skimming off more and more, while the maximum income limit remains and has crept up only slowly. It's no wonder that Social Security needs adjusting. But what needs adjusting is the cap on contributions.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/203247/shares-of-household-income-of-quintiles-in-the-us/

Captain Stern

(2,241 posts)
19. Nothing is going to get done before 2032.
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 12:54 PM
Sep 20

They've know this is coming for decades, and did nothing.

And they're going to continue to do nothing, because there isn't a popular way to fix the problem.

So, they're just going to let the surplus in the trust fund run out, and blame it on past administrations, then they'll have to decide how the benefit reductions will be implemented. I'm guessing there will be some sort of means test.

Captain Stern

(2,241 posts)
21. The program was in trouble in the '70's.
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 03:23 PM
Sep 20

It started running at a deficit in 1975.

That's why changes were made to the program under Presidents Carter and Reagan.

Even after the reforms to the program in 1983, it was known that the program would once again be running at a deficit when enough of the baby boomers retired. The hope was, that when the program once again started running at a deficit that we'd have built up a big enough surplus to last until about 2060. Unfortunately, for various reasons, it hasn't worked out that way. The program ran at a surplus only until 2020. It has been running at a deficit since 2021. Unfortunately, and unless there are some drastic changes made, the surplus will be gone around 2032-2034.

When that happens, if nothing is changed, by law, the amount of social security benefits that are paid out may not exceed
the amount that is paid into the program. The estimate is that when the surplus is gone, the total benefits paid out annually will be reduced by about 20%.

This reduction does not have to be voted on. Not a single lawmaker has to propose a change to the program for these benefit reductions to happen. All that has to happen for benefits to be reduced is for our lawmakers to do nothing.

Vinca

(52,738 posts)
22. All they have to do is raise the cap for deductions. The barista puts in the same amount as Elon Musk.
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 03:28 PM
Sep 20

Captain Stern

(2,241 posts)
23. That would certainly help.
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 04:47 PM
Sep 20

But most estimates that I've seen indicate that if we completely eliminated the cap today, it would only make up for about half of the projected shortfall.

More needs to be done if we want to avoid any reduction in benefits.

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