Now the attack ads will relentlessly focus on the "ZOMG Soros-Funded Prop 50!!!"

The attacks against Soros and every other invisible (non-existent) left wing donor will be there whether they donate or not. They make up their boogeymen as they need them, and Soros will always be their #1. Might as well take the $$.

Democratic party needs to go on offense and stop always being on defense. Do like the GOP does, stay on message and repeat over and over to drown out the other side.

Is understandably freaked out as he should be. If this is going to come down to money, we need as much as it takes to get it done. MAGA has no high ground to stand on.

Let them cry Soros, we know that bitch Musk

because I think that gives it a better chance of winning?

If all the red states are getting this shit done but California fails at it (I realize the rules are different in CA but still) it's going to be really depressing on top of the actual impact.

No other donor is the equivalent of Soros, politically. You'll get 1000's of wingnuts at the polls on election day who will show up primarily in order to "Beat Soros!". ANYONE else, fine.

But MY calculation is that this particular source of funding (esp. if it's the #1 largest) hurts the cause more than it helps, hence my reaction

Than some stupid boogeyman they are already going to use. But go ahead and fret and worry if that helps.

information that the NYT has put their name on. Facts do still matter at least a bit.

If any CA voter had any doubt in their mind whether this was purely political, the Reight will remove all doubt with the words "Soros, per the NYT".

I would guess that those ads will start immediately, and I fear we will see a concurrent reduction in support for it in the polls.

Since you think "the money is more important", I will be proven wrong if the polls in support for Prop 50 instead surge up after the Reight starts their media blitz, and if the Proposition passes.

I guess we'll see what happens. I hope I am 100% wrong and you are 100% right, for the record

The boogeyman attack that they will use regardless of whether Soros actually donates or not? And wait/hope that grassroots donations will fill the void? That's political suicide.

I'm also pretty sure the campaign is happy to take the $$.

As you say, the far right is going to use the boogeyman attack regardless. And, honestly, I think they've overused the whole "Soros" thing so the "boogeyman" effect is far far less.

Soros is the one person I think its unwise to take a donation from for something like this. And again, there's a difference between lying outright that it's "Soros-funded" vs being able to plaster a legitimate New York Times headline that confirms he really did so on all your ads. I reject your assertion that it doesn't matter one bit whether he actually did so or not. I think it does. I guess we'll see, I hope you are right and I am wrong.

I have taken all your points under advisement, and I agree with the fact that's it's bullshit we have to think this way, when the other side gets away with the same all the time. Entirely annoying.

I still reach the same conclusion

And I'm glad they are running it.

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In mathematics, an exclamation mark placed before an integer, like (!5), denotes a subfactorial. 

The subfactorial of (0) is (1), which is expressed as !0=1.

Ergo: 1 million dollars donation...?

Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derangement

Here's the link to "Verbose"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/verbose

I donated yesterday.

When Main Justice directs U.S. attorney’s offices to launch what amounts to a fishing expedition against a presidential foe, it’s political corruption.

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