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demmiblue

(38,763 posts)
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 01:08 PM Sep 19

This is absolutely wild. The court *sua sponte* dismisses the case for violating Rule 8(a) so that means the court...

this is absolutely wild

the court *sua sponte* dismisses the case for violating Rule 8(a)

so that means the court, all on its own, looked at the complaint and said it's too long, too scattershot, too arbitrary to even count as a complaint. *never* seen this happen to a private party with counsel.

Joshua Erlich (@joshuaerlich.bsky.social) 2025-09-19T16:21:13.239Z

tl:dr - Judge just told Trump "I ain't reading all that shit, go try again."

The order starts with the phrase "As every member of the bar of every federal court knows (or is presumed to know)..."

The Questionable Authority (@questauthority.bsky.social) 2025-09-19T16:04:28.097Z

[Goes to rules of Federal Procedures]

[Looks up Rule 8]

*passes out from laughing*

For non-lawyers, its literally this meme

STEMthebleeding (@stemthebleeding.bsky.social) 2025-09-19T16:10:50.271Z


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This is absolutely wild. The court *sua sponte* dismisses the case for violating Rule 8(a) so that means the court... (Original Post) demmiblue Sep 19 OP
I think it is the most honest appraisal of Baitball Blogger Sep 19 #1
Or maybe really don't care, since they're just doing it as intimidation William Seger Sep 19 #12
Kind of describes trump's entire life and being... Wounded Bear Sep 19 #2
Bwaaaah malaise Sep 19 #3
sweet! RussBLib Sep 19 #4
Read the whole thing, here. It's glorious. Ocelot II Sep 19 #5
would that general MSM reporting is as sober, precise, and honest. nt wiggs Sep 19 #7
He called him out on his lack of dignity. That was delicious. littlemissmartypants Sep 19 #14
Oh my Lordy -- that's a beauty. Judge Merryday deserves to be writing film scripts. In allegorical oracle Sep 19 #15
Love: "Similarly, in one of many, often repetitive, and laudatory (toward President Trump) but superfluous allegations JudyM Sep 19 #23
translation patphil Sep 19 #6
OK would someone explain to me like I'm five what this means. irisblue Sep 19 #8
In short, djt's attorneys submitted 84 pages of unnecessary BS when the complaint allegorical oracle Sep 19 #20
i mean, did you read that ridiculous complaint? CatWoman Sep 19 #24
Oh yeah. Even went into his father's history, the Trump Org's business. It was all over the allegorical oracle Sep 20 #29
I said the exact same thing mountain grammy Sep 19 #22
I was disappointed when I read they get to resubmit. Too bad. nt pnwmom Sep 19 #9
Live and learn. I didn't know that sua sponte in Latin meant usonian Sep 19 #10
Rule 8 (and similar) violations are mostly used to disqualify claims by crank or nuisance litigants Prairie Gates Sep 19 #11
Why why why has Turnip not been declared a vexatious litigant in every court in the country ?? nt eppur_se_muova Sep 19 #18
Because his complaints don't meet the standard onenote Sep 20 #27
Court speak for TL;DR. nt Xipe Totec Sep 19 #13
Something I'm wondering about. boonecreek Sep 19 #16
Led to the word "spontaneous"; from "sponsio" meaning a promise or pledge (cf sponsor); "sua" indicates "(their) own" eppur_se_muova Sep 19 #17
CoversTrump! Bluesaph Sep 19 #19
Vituperators gonna vituperate. What a sick clown. Dave Bowman Sep 19 #21
No, the case was not "dismissed." If it had been, it would be over, subject to appeal. rsdsharp Sep 20 #25
Donald Barratrous Trump sop Sep 20 #26
If only. But "barratry" is no longer a crime in the majority of states and is a misdemeanor where it is. onenote Sep 20 #28
Eric trying his hand at being an attorney ? republianmushroom Sep 20 #30

Baitball Blogger

(50,973 posts)
1. I think it is the most honest appraisal of
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 01:54 PM
Sep 19

Trump abusing the law to apply pressure on his opponents. No surprise they’re getting sloppy.

William Seger

(11,834 posts)
12. Or maybe really don't care, since they're just doing it as intimidation
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 03:14 PM
Sep 19

Sounds like maybe the faux-king idiot insisted on writing or editing the complaint himself, though.

littlemissmartypants

(29,886 posts)
14. He called him out on his lack of dignity. That was delicious.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 03:25 PM
Sep 19

This section is hilarious.

As every lawyer knows (or is presumed to know), a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective — not a protected platform to rage against an adversary. A complaint is not a megaphone for public relations or a podium for a passionate oration at a political rally or the functional equivalent of the Hyde Park Speakers’ Corner.


Ouch.

Of course, it's all going to fly over his head like a MiG-31.

Thanks for sharing this, Ocelot II. ❤️

🇺🇸⚖️🇺🇸

allegorical oracle

(5,749 posts)
15. Oh my Lordy -- that's a beauty. Judge Merryday deserves to be writing film scripts. In
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 03:43 PM
Sep 19

fact, I'll bet Lawrence O'Donnell has already phoned the judge. Sadly, poor Donald won't comprehend much of the ruling. Too many big words.

JudyM

(29,550 posts)
23. Love: "Similarly, in one of many, often repetitive, and laudatory (toward President Trump) but superfluous allegations
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 07:26 PM
Sep 19

the pleader states, “‘The Apprentice’ represented the cultural magnitude of President Trump’s singular bril-
liance, which captured the [Z]eitgeist of our time.”

Repetitive, laudatory but superfluous

Thanks for posting this, Ocelot II!

allegorical oracle

(5,749 posts)
20. In short, djt's attorneys submitted 84 pages of unnecessary BS when the complaint
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 03:57 PM
Sep 19

should have been concise and to the point of why/how he's been harmed by the NY Times.

Believe he has an uphill slog because djt's lawyers need to show that the newspaper printed the story with intentional malice. That's the same problem that exists with djt's lawsuit against the Wall Street Journal regarding the Epstein birthday card.

Large newspapers keep excellent attorneys on retainer just for these occasions.

CatWoman

(80,156 posts)
24. i mean, did you read that ridiculous complaint?
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 07:31 PM
Sep 19

it was all like: "ME, ME, ME!!! I'm the greatest human being alive. HOW DARE THEY FUCKING CRITICIZE ME!!!"

allegorical oracle

(5,749 posts)
29. Oh yeah. Even went into his father's history, the Trump Org's business. It was all over the
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 03:02 PM
Sep 20

place. He'll probably submit something else, unfortunately.

mountain grammy

(28,242 posts)
22. I said the exact same thing
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 04:10 PM
Sep 19

then I went to the link up thread in Ocelot 's post and it looked intimidating. But I started to read and it's pretty funny. it's the Judges decision.

only bits and pieces of the actual appeal are quoted and summarized, but you get the general idea.

He's a flaming idiot!! obviously he wrote much of the appeal.

Prairie Gates

(6,345 posts)
11. Rule 8 (and similar) violations are mostly used to disqualify claims by crank or nuisance litigants
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 03:13 PM
Sep 19

The neighborhood crank who files endless lawsuits against the neighborhood association or the proverbial inmate who files 400 suits a year. To see it applied against the President of the United States is truly remarkable.

eppur_se_muova

(40,110 posts)
18. Why why why has Turnip not been declared a vexatious litigant in every court in the country ?? nt
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 03:55 PM
Sep 19

onenote

(45,683 posts)
27. Because his complaints don't meet the standard
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 02:28 PM
Sep 20

Like it or not, he has been successful, or has gotten the other side to settle, several of the suits he has filed.

It is a very high bar for someone to be barred from access to the courts.

boonecreek

(1,233 posts)
16. Something I'm wondering about.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 03:50 PM
Sep 19

Who is the lucky duck that has to explain "vituperation" and "invective" to Trump?

eppur_se_muova

(40,110 posts)
17. Led to the word "spontaneous"; from "sponsio" meaning a promise or pledge (cf sponsor); "sua" indicates "(their) own"
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 03:54 PM
Sep 19
https://fiveable.me/key-terms/elementary-latin/sponte

More colloquial version: "We just did this, OK ?"

Bluesaph

(981 posts)
19. CoversTrump!
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 03:56 PM
Sep 19

Now Trump can blame the judge for throwing out his case and he doesn’t have to do discovery!

All theater!

rsdsharp

(11,350 posts)
25. No, the case was not "dismissed." If it had been, it would be over, subject to appeal.
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 01:14 PM
Sep 20

What the court did, sua sponte, was strike the complaint with leave to amend within 28 days to bring it into compliance with the pleading requirements of Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 8.

sop

(16,197 posts)
26. Donald Barratrous Trump
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 02:10 PM
Sep 20

Barratry is the criminal offense of habitually bringing about quarrels or lawsuits, especially for profit or harassment.  Lock him up!

onenote

(45,683 posts)
28. If only. But "barratry" is no longer a crime in the majority of states and is a misdemeanor where it is.
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 02:45 PM
Sep 20

Moreover, his litigation history, at least from 1980 to the mid 20-teens reveals that he has been a defendant almost as much as a plaintiff and of the suits where he was a plaintiff, almost 80 percent involved his casino business.

Sadly, his cases aren't thrown out of court as often as they probably should be -- the folks he sues all too often capitulate and settle.

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