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and asserted themselves--at least ultimately back then. But, I don't even think Nixon would have imagined 1% of what Trump has already pulled. And, Nixon had a conscience (not a 100% amoral sociopath).

Watergate? Quaint compared to what Trump has already done in first term, much less now.

I was literally crying because I was longing for the good old days.

When I first watched it in 2012, I thought, "He sure was corrupt". "I'm glad we got him". "Breaking into a psychiatrist's office to steal Daniel Ellsberg's medical records is about the lowest you can go"

Now I'm like, "We've got King Kong in office and we can't control him".

It's amazing what Trump has done to this country in just a few months.

Trump is next level bad.

Nixon would be considered a flaming liberal by today's MSM and most of Congress.

Republicans had a limit back then. They have no limits now.

... beat OPEC (with Sadam Hussein's help), tried to sponser with Teddy Kennedy a national health care system, Watergate.

Trumps worse by a mile. Trump is more a Harding than a Nixon.

On the evil scale at least, Trump isn’t ahead “by a mile”.

But he clearly wins the gold for corruption and incompetence.

... eliminate the kneeling in prayer with Henry Kissinger in a hall somewhere in the White House. Attempting to lock a race he was going to win handedly, ignore that. He certainly was no TACO.

Nixon raised it once, 3 months before he resigned.

Despite his authoritarian tendencies, when SCOTUS ordered him to turn over the secret tapes he complied, knowing the likely consequences. He resigned when threatened with impeachment. He didn't do or say embarrassing things in foreign countries and he understood how to behave in public (though he drank a lot in private). He was duplicitous and sneaky but he wasn't stupid. He lied sometimes, but not all the time, and his public statements were coherent even when he was lying. He had three dogs.

He was impeached wasn’t because the GOP wanted to do the right thing at all, they were just afraid of their base at that time.

Today they are not afraid of the base unless they go against the piece of shit.

I will keep saying it if we keep bringing a rolled up newspaper to a nuclear war going to get the same results.

But as far as evil goes, Nixon did sabotage the peace talks that could have ended the Viet Nam war before the 1968 election, and then ordered the bombing of Cambodia, which destabilized that nation, leading to the Pol Pot genocide…and it was on Nixon’s watch that the CIA assassinated Allende and installed Pinochet in Chile.

... before the election. When Reagan won, he immediately got back the remaining hostages. Nixon's policies weren't unilateral regarding Viet Nam, a lot of popular support and a military that kept it going. Nixon had some moderate leanings for a Republican.

I think this is what really defeated him in 1960 was his doing this live TV all during the Kennedy/Nixon debate:

He was re-elected by a landslide. He wanted universal healthcare.

If it weren't for Watergate, he would have been pretty good.

On the other hand there's trump. The opposite end of the spectrum. What a fucking loser.

I'm way to old to do much dancing but I could manage a gleeful hobble if Donnie was kicked out.

Nixon had a duality.

As others noted, he handled himself with grace while the cameras were on or in public. And, he actually had some decent domestic policies.

But, underneath it all, he was a very insecure and angry person. He was in office at at time when there was still some sense of honor in our politics and again with the duality, he was shady and pushed and crossed over the limits when he could get away with it, but in the end ceded to the norms of society at the time.

Reagan was a hateful ideologue who put his acting experience to great benefit with the gee, golly good guy act. He was truly masterful as an orator and public figure and just had a presence that related to a lot of people at the time. As opposed to Nixon fighting with liberal democracy, he cut it out at the knees making it normal to question government while also helping to lead republicans in learning how to normalize and deliver hate speech in a way that they could wink at those who it appealed to while seeming to be innocuous (ex. welfare queen).

It ground my gears that W was a mostly feckless arrogant lightweight son of privilege. But, compared to what came both before and after him, he was not a hateful person. He meant well, but bought into the right wing bullshit and let the usual suspects he brought in do the dirt on the sly.

DT ... No words needed.

If your first one is Nixon, the others are…

Gerald Ford: Ford understood his primary job as president was getting rid of the scum Nixon put into the government. He did semi-OK, but for some reason he kept Kissinger.

Reagan: Committed treason to get into office. Once he was there he went on a serious crime spree. Until Trump was elected Reagan stood as our most corrupt president.

Bush 41: More of the same.

Bush 43: Dubya’s biggest problem is he tried to president the way he governed Texas. The Texas system is set up so the Lieutenant Governor has more power than the Governor. I wonder what he’d have been like if he’d have told Dick Cheney, “no, you’re not my running mate.”

Trump: His political heroes are all dictators, and he’s working hard to become one himself. Definitely America’s worst leader, and quickly becoming the world’s worst leader.

He also pushed through the "Patriot" Act in the wake of 911.

Dubya was the "who cares what you think" "president" and called the Constitution "just a goddam piece of paper".

Dubya lied about seeing a tower being hit on live TV in the elementary school.

He joked about the non-existent WMDs after bombing the shit out of Innocent Iraqis.

And don't get me started on that election that his dumbass brother helped rig for him in Florida.

I survived Nixon, but was too young to vote. Life was pretty much status quo during his term. Johnson was president from when I was in second through eighth grade. Nixon was eighth through senior year. To me, the country was pretty much the same with both presidents. There was more turmoil during Johnson's presidency. Nixon's crimes were white collar and under the radar and took alot of digging to find out. Trump is "out there" crazy.

Trump wants to destroy the country.

Nixon was corrupt.

Rating of GOP Presidents in my life
Ford
Bush (1989) (tie)
Nixon (tie)
GW Bush
Reagan
Trump

Eisenhower was president when I was born, but I don't remember him, so I can't rate him. Most rank Eisenhower as the best GOP president of the past 100 years.

Nixon is pretty much tied with the George HW Bush in my book.

Reagan was worse than Nixon
Trump is worse than Reagan

Trump's first term his harm was more on par with Reagan's harm. (Although different)

This term, he's much worse than Reagan.

Those were the good old days, when a crooked politician knew it was time to resign.

by far! At least I don’t think he threatened our first amendment rights. He didn’t threaten to revoke the license of networks or make threats against comedians (because they said not so flattering things about him) that I am aware of.

Look like honest Abe.

They were horrified by Nixon's crimes.

Trump is much much worse and the majority of Americans either agree with this crimes
or don't give a damn.

People seem to forget he, through third parties, sabotaged the 1968 Paris Peace Talks that would have ended the Vietnam War, thus not just ensuring his re-election, but he stretched that war out unnecessarily to ensure his re-election. Hundreds of thousands of people died simply because Nixon wanted to gain and keep power. Watergate was in large part a result of Nixon's paranoia of being found out for having violated the Logan Act.

Nixon should have been tried at The Hague.

Trump is an idiot who has truly evil people in charge of running things, but Nixon stands alone with his treachery. Nixon was vastly more intelligent than Trump. However, his mental problems concerning hate against his perceived enemies was his downfall.

People tend to forget how devastating the Vietnam War was to people's faith in our country's institutions. Ditto for Watergate. These set the stage for the mess we have today.

People should remember The Wall and remember LBJ and Nixon as war criminals.

Senator George Aiken (who famously said about Vietnam we should declare victory and get out) was on his deathbed in a small, Vermont hospital and Richard Nixon showed up to visit him. All the way from California. Trump would only visit a dying colleague if it meant a photo op and good press.

to step down, otherwise he would be impeached. Do you think Trump would step down? I imagine his fat, orange ghost will haunt the White House for the next 200 years.

Even if it’s a weekend at Bernie’s!

Is Trump the worst? On policies and actions, no question.

With that Trump doesn't exist without Nixon, Reagan and the Bush's and without the Republican party of the last 75 years.

Change order of birth and I would say, other than George HW Bush, they all would be as shitty if not worse.

George W is the least likely, but dumb as a rock so he gets mention. The remaning two, just as bad as tRump.

I mean WTF. It’s obvious.

Nixon picked a decent, competent VP who could actually take over without the country falling apart (Gerry Ford). Storm clouds were already gathering, and Nixon knew he might not complete his second term, even though in 1973, it didn’t yet look imminent. At least he cared about the country’s continuity. JD Vance is the choice of someone who does not.

1. LBJ was not getting us out of Vietnam
2. Chicago.

There were still several moderate Eisenhower Republicans in Congress that would hold Nixon accountable. Even the conservative GOP know when it was time to cut bait about Watergate.

trump has ne guard rails. Almost all of the GOP side of congress is with him all the way and will do ANYTHING to keep him in power. I don't think that Nixon could ever get away with blowing up boats in Venezuela, at least not in the era that he rose to power.

I’ll let you guess which is which.

Trump will go down in history as the worst president ever!

Nixon was awful and villainous but an amateur compared to trump. Nixon wanted power but trump wants it all, power, money, revenge, attention, and the list goes on, plus he’ll do anything to get it. He’s lined up a group of warriors and cronies willing to assist in that endeavor.

I don’t think Nixon caused the damage those three did. He was just a crooked politician. Those three caused many to die.

Nixon tried to hide his tracks by appearing to be the liberal version of Nixon. Luckily people like Panetta saw him for what he did. Panetta had to drop out, became a Democrat, then got elected to the House and came back to help take down Nixon.

Trump - Worse Person in the World since Hitler.

... Nixon had more of an adherence to a set of norms and morals, in my opinion. Trump has a set (the so-called Christian right), but he seems to only use them for political gain.

Compared to the felon-in-chief

Seemed to care at least a tiny bit about foreign policy and at least didn't directly talk shit about the military, possibly because he served. He also actually loved his wife and children and liked animals.

Nixon was the better person.

Trump is infinitely worse.