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babylonsister

(172,365 posts)
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:33 AM Sep 19

Oklahoma schools bring in teachers from Mexico to address educator shortages

Really? Lock 'em up unless they're useful? Make this make sense.

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2025/09/17/oklahoma-teacher-shortage

Oklahoma schools bring in teachers from Mexico to address educator shortages
06:30
September 17, 2025


At the start of this school year, Oklahoma schools had 1,000 unfilled teacher positions. To fill the gap, one school district started hiring teachers from Mexico. Santa Fe South Schools in Oklahoma City recently brought in three teachers from Mexico as part of a pilot program coordinated by an education non-profit called Fuel OKC.
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Oklahoma schools bring in teachers from Mexico to address educator shortages (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 19 OP
Are they certified? no_hypocrisy Sep 19 #1
And do they have to take Oklahoma's "dedication to the dear leader" test, like they were Scrivener7 Sep 19 #2
Yeah, and are they packing Bibles? BoRaGard Sep 19 #6
Trump Bibles of course. Norrrm Thursday #51
Oklahoma has many workarounds for teacher certification. Heidi Sep 19 #10
In 2006 SF south HS in OKC was 73% 'hispanic', in 2005 it was 64%, in 2025? ClaudetteCC Sep 19 #14
Did they have to sign a fealty pledge to King Trump? Diamond_Dog Sep 19 #3
The Great Replacement Theory - republicon style BoRaGard Sep 19 #4
How long till those teachers get rounded up by ICE? tanyev Sep 19 #5
This whole thing is a face palm. They treat their teachers like shit. LeftInTX Sep 19 #21
Exactly! peggysue2 Sep 19 #30
About the second school is out next May Bengus81 Sep 19 #39
Good question ck4829 Thursday #50
And Mexico will pay their salaries, right? sop Sep 19 #7
Prolly will need to build a wall to keep them in Seinan Sensei Sep 19 #23
Will the Mexican teachers, gab13by13 Sep 19 #8
Who is paying their salaries? Jilly_in_VA Sep 19 #9
Not Certified. Public school teachers in Mexico end their secondary ed at 10th grade and go to college. LeftInTX Sep 19 #24
Sounds to me like they are non-union scabs, gab13by13 Sep 19 #11
Probably don't have unions. LeftInTX Sep 19 #26
Okie-homa Jilly_in_VA Sep 19 #47
But they skirt the state's minimum salaries. So in some respect they're like scabs. LeftInTX Sep 19 #48
Kick dalton99a Sep 19 #12
Unintended Consequences Piasladic Sep 19 #13
As was pointed out above, the district is overwhelmingly Hispanic. nt Wednesdays Sep 19 #43
Follow the money lonely bird Sep 19 #15
They have been bringing in teachers from the Philippines for years JT45242 Sep 19 #16
Decades ago, they tried to bring nurses in from the Philippines as cheap labor travelingthrulife Sep 19 #19
They still do. Although the bases aren't there, there is an "American school" over there. LeftInTX Sep 19 #27
I remember when Dean Martin played an American Indian in movies. Are they really from Mexico? twodogsbarking Sep 19 #17
Seriously? travelingthrulife Sep 19 #18
So I guess they all have the proper visas and green cards allowing them to work in the United States. Ray Bruns Sep 19 #20
But the loon state Education Superintendent implemented an idiotic policy to keep some teachers out BumRushDaShow Sep 19 #22
The teachers from Mexico won't require certification. They will be issued "emergency certificates" LeftInTX Sep 19 #32
Oh I know BumRushDaShow Sep 19 #40
Anterior motive. Are they being bought in Norbert Sep 19 #25
That 1000 teacher shortage is result of bad policy and low pay. tinrobot Sep 19 #28
Someone from Mexico who is willing for work for lower pay. LeftInTX Sep 19 #34
You get what you pay for tinrobot Sep 19 #37
Right! OK is driving their college-educated citizens out of the state! 70sEraVet Sep 19 #38
Well, isn't that special? You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried. Vinca Sep 19 #29
Just like Abbot's Texas DMV was requesting Mexican Truck drivers after reopening and granting them visas ChicagoTeamster Sep 19 #31
Surreal. Must be because they will agree to teach the Bible, and shun mention of LBTQ+ topics. Martin68 Sep 19 #33
Yep...or be deported by sundown Bengus81 Sep 19 #42
The irony is delicious. Ping Tung Sep 19 #35
My friend's Chinese lesbian daughter was Teacher of the Year in OK City but left. OMGWTF Sep 19 #36
Gee I wonder what happened to the teachers kkmarie Sep 19 #41
Feel sorry for those with school age kids that are locked into staying in that State Bengus81 Sep 19 #44
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Sep 19 #45
I am surprised that they didn't go to the Philippines dsc Sep 19 #46
Kick ck4829 Thursday #49

no_hypocrisy

(53,189 posts)
1. Are they certified?
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:34 AM
Sep 19

Do they understand the American public school system?

Will they be fired for speaking Spanish during school hours?

Scrivener7

(57,301 posts)
2. And do they have to take Oklahoma's "dedication to the dear leader" test, like they were
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:40 AM
Sep 19

going to make teachers from blue states do? I guess they don't have to worry about those hordes of blue state teachers coming to corrupt their children that they were expecting.

I literally laughed out loud at this. It's hilarious.

ClaudetteCC

(114 posts)
14. In 2006 SF south HS in OKC was 73% 'hispanic', in 2005 it was 64%, in 2025?
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:24 AM
Sep 19

This is the HS but presumably the local middle and elementary schools are similar.

It might be that spanish language skills in teachers were what led them to recruit from Mexico.

https://www.city-data.com/school/santa-fe-south-hs-ok.html

BoRaGard

(7,586 posts)
4. The Great Replacement Theory - republicon style
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:41 AM
Sep 19

It's so slick when you have a golf cheat and pedo bestie as your leader,

LeftInTX

(34,006 posts)
21. This whole thing is a face palm. They treat their teachers like shit.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:37 AM
Sep 19

Then, they get a teacher shortage.

Then, they bring in teachers from Mexico, who ARE NOT certified. (Teachers in Mexico have a totally different education tract than the US. My daughter's ex-bf mother was certified teacher in Mexico. She could only work as a teacher's aide here) In Mexico, their secondary education ends at grade 10 and then she went to college. So, it was mismatched and not worth the effort to become certified here.

Of course, they will pay them less than American teachers

There may even be language/accent issues between the students and teachers. Parents may not like it either. But i guess it depends on the district.


Then, ICE may show up.

peggysue2

(12,189 posts)
30. Exactly!
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:55 AM
Sep 19

The Trump regime is deporting Mexicans left and right and now Oklahoma of all places brings in Mexican teachers to fill a teacher vacuum?

Makes no sense.

I'm honestly surprised any Mexican citizen would be willing to come here after all the bigotry and abuse.


Jilly_in_VA

(13,110 posts)
9. Who is paying their salaries?
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:57 AM
Sep 19

Are they CERTIFIED?
Do they speak good, unaccented ENGLISH?
Who is paying their salaries?
And most importantly,
ARE THEY LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ICE COMES CALLING?

LeftInTX

(34,006 posts)
24. Not Certified. Public school teachers in Mexico end their secondary ed at 10th grade and go to college.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:45 AM
Sep 19

It's hard to get a US certificate if you haven't completed HS. They would need to get a GED, then go back to college and take classes. Would not be worth it.

They will get something called an "emergency certificate". My husband had one for awhile.

Accents could be an issue. They would be bilingual. How will parents react? However. It depends on the community (Indian Reservations would probably be more accepting than some redneck white area)

They will pay them less than US teachers. That's they whole thing.

I'm pretty sure they will get work visas.

ICE is unpredictable.

gab13by13

(29,873 posts)
11. Sounds to me like they are non-union scabs,
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:18 AM
Sep 19

but maybe teachers in Oklahoma don't belong to unions?

LeftInTX

(34,006 posts)
26. Probably don't have unions.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:50 AM
Sep 19

Texas has mandated salaries, but no unions.

However, uncertified or "emergency certificates" will earn less than certified teacher.

They would be issued emergency certificate.

Basically, the are like union scabs because the state can pay them less than certified teachers.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,110 posts)
47. Okie-homa
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:53 PM
Sep 19

is a "right to slave" state, therefore no union. Therefore they cannot be scabs.

LeftInTX

(34,006 posts)
48. But they skirt the state's minimum salaries. So in some respect they're like scabs.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:57 PM
Sep 19

They hurt legitimate teachers. Obviously teacher strikes are illegal in OK. They do have "unions" which act as lobbyists to assure minimum salaries and benefits. "Emergency certificates" will work for less pay and certified teachers will sit without jobs.

Piasladic

(1,171 posts)
13. Unintended Consequences
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:33 AM
Sep 19

What is going to happen when those kids start loving and respecting their Mexican teachers? Maybe they’ll develop some empathy their parents lack…

lonely bird

(2,554 posts)
15. Follow the money
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:26 AM
Sep 19

Some of the funding comes from the Walton Family Foundation which isn’t arbitrarily left or right.

Still, following the money is critical. Also, seeing if the teachers from outside the U.S. are subject to the idiocy of the whackjob who is president of the state board.

JT45242

(3,638 posts)
16. They have been bringing in teachers from the Philippines for years
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:28 AM
Sep 19

I have delivered Professional Development classes in Oklahoma several times over the last few years. I've found many districts that use teachers from the Philippines to fill shortages.

But as a twenty years teacher. Why would anyone go to Oklahoma to teach unless they were desperate.
Underfunded.
Underpaid.
Fascists running the government.

Would putting up Isaiah 10:1-2 fulfill the law or get you fired. "Woe to those who make unjust laws, th those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless."

The hypocrisy of red states as always, repulses me.

travelingthrulife

(3,355 posts)
19. Decades ago, they tried to bring nurses in from the Philippines as cheap labor
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:34 AM
Sep 19

to replace US RNs.

Philippine nurses were trained at US bases and they knew very well the value of a dollar so their little scheme did not work.

We got a lot of tremendous nurses and they did not bring our wages down.

Ray Bruns

(5,621 posts)
20. So I guess they all have the proper visas and green cards allowing them to work in the United States.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:37 AM
Sep 19

Maybe someone should call ICE to check on that.

LeftInTX

(34,006 posts)
32. The teachers from Mexico won't require certification. They will be issued "emergency certificates"
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:57 AM
Sep 19

Academically, the certification process in Mexico doesn't line up with US certification.

So, they would come in as uncertified teachers and be issued "emergency certifications", which are used in shortages.

They are paid less than certified teachers.

BumRushDaShow

(160,747 posts)
40. Oh I know
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 11:18 AM
Sep 19

The ad hoc "policies" that they put in place to "own the libs" is the type of red meat crap that they feed to their base while doing something that is the opposite - "behind the scenes".

Norbert

(7,388 posts)
25. Anterior motive. Are they being bought in
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:46 AM
Sep 19

So that they can ultimately pay Herr Steven Goebbel's detain/deportation numbers?

tinrobot

(11,786 posts)
28. That 1000 teacher shortage is result of bad policy and low pay.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:53 AM
Sep 19

Who in the world would want to be a low-paid teacher who has to avoid "woke" words such as slavery or evolution in the classroom?

Pay teachers more and stop micro-managing what they teach.

tinrobot

(11,786 posts)
37. You get what you pay for
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 11:11 AM
Sep 19

Oklahoma doesn't want great teachers. Their students ask uncomfortable questions.

ChicagoTeamster

(27 posts)
31. Just like Abbot's Texas DMV was requesting Mexican Truck drivers after reopening and granting them visas
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:55 AM
Sep 19

That's how all the agricultural, construction, and meat processing workers came here. There was a shortage and now there is one again

Martin68

(26,518 posts)
33. Surreal. Must be because they will agree to teach the Bible, and shun mention of LBTQ+ topics.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:57 AM
Sep 19

OMGWTF

(4,907 posts)
36. My friend's Chinese lesbian daughter was Teacher of the Year in OK City but left.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 11:07 AM
Sep 19

She ended up getting married, moving to Canada and has never looked back.

kkmarie

(328 posts)
41. Gee I wonder what happened to the teachers
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 11:28 AM
Sep 19
Walters Touts Alternative to Woke Teachers' Unions

Monday, March 10, 2025
Teacher Freedom Alliance provides a necessary free market solution

OKLAHOMA CITY, OK – Today, Superintendent Ryan Walters announced intent to lead the charge to offer a private industry solution to the far left-leaning Teachers' Unions that have infected our public education system for decades.

Bengus81

(9,450 posts)
44. Feel sorry for those with school age kids that are locked into staying in that State
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 11:31 AM
Sep 19

This is what happens when the ultra nut job religious kooks take over.

dsc

(53,163 posts)
46. I am surprised that they didn't go to the Philippines
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 12:32 PM
Sep 19

my district has several teachers from there. My school has 2 in our math department (out of 7), 3 in our science department (out of 5), 1 in our English department (out of 6). The Philippines is an English speaking country so these teachers are clear English speakers. But the education systems are rather different so there is a learning curve for them.

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