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Jersey Devil

(10,476 posts)
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:32 PM Wednesday

The multiple flyovers of the press conf tells you everything you need to know

The desperation by the WH, the attempt at intimidation, at a level so frightening it is almost unimaginable.

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The multiple flyovers of the press conf tells you everything you need to know (Original Post) Jersey Devil Wednesday OP
It must be shitty. Must be pretty bad whatever's in there. Walleye Wednesday #1
My guess is clear proof he knew what Epstein was doing Jersey Devil Wednesday #3
I think he may have participated in some way in the blackmail Walleye Wednesday #8
Hard for me Traildogbob Wednesday #13
Same here. Martin Eden Wednesday #16
The BEST line yet!!! some_of_us_are_sane Wednesday #22
🤜🏽🤛🏽✌🏽 Traildogbob Wednesday #23
Not a good line pattyloutwo Yesterday #50
I agree 100%. evolves Wednesday #33
.............. 58Sunliner Wednesday #31
No Fing way. This goes much deeper Bluetus Wednesday #37
All about the Money guss Yesterday #47
That's what I think too. Trueblue Texan Yesterday #44
Question we should be asking is, does anybody think he wouldn't do any of this shit if he had a chance ? Walleye Yesterday #48
There is testimony from the victims about tRump Blue Full Moon Wednesday #18
Yes and as I recall, it was pretty brutal PatSeg Wednesday #25
Once a rapist, always a rapist nt Trueblue Texan Yesterday #45
Yep he totally has the personality of a rapist. Will not take no for an answer. That's what makes a rapist. Walleye Yesterday #49
Evidence? You mean the testimony from all his victims AllyCat Wednesday #36
That he was actually a business partner? mwmisses4289 Wednesday #10
My thinking as well Jersey Devil Wednesday #12
I've always thought this... slightlv Wednesday #19
I'm thinking recruiter Skittles Yesterday #39
A group of F-16s flew in a missing man formation as tribute to Polish Air Force F-16 pilot, Maj. Maciej "Slab" Krakowian Donkees Wednesday #2
multiple times? Jersey Devil Wednesday #4
Timing was anything but coincidence. vapor2 Wednesday #35
lol that isn't why obamanut2012 Wednesday #7
Yep. That 12 year old was telling the truth about what Cankles and Epstein did to her. Scrivener7 Wednesday #5
If Trump is so innocent, why doesn't he want radical transparency, to prove it? RockRaven Wednesday #6
I'm guessing now that he engaged in witness intimidation. Which is a felony. Walleye Wednesday #9
Riiiiight. 58Sunliner Wednesday #32
right? Skittles Yesterday #40
This woman was talking and she just looked up and gave them a wave!! riversedge Wednesday #11
The pathetic pedo coverup of the gop BoRaGard Wednesday #14
it's bizarre Skittles Yesterday #41
This surfered Wednesday #15
So PETTY and EMBARRASSING it is almost unimaginable. calimary Wednesday #17
And, beyond desperate. GoCubsGo Wednesday #20
The convicted pedo is still a malignant toddler who lives in his own magic world Justice matters. Yesterday #38
They don't seem to realize that doing stupid shit - Nigrum Cattus Wednesday #21
agreed. Unbelievably weird, petty, reactionary, waste of OUR $, etc. Same playground bully shit and means he's up to Evolve Dammit Wednesday #24
Trump keeps confessing guilt with his behavior. Irish_Dem Wednesday #26
Should have had it indoors... 2naSalit Wednesday #27
China does stuff like that when Taiwan holds elections IronLionZion Wednesday #28
Also very stupid. If they haven't already, anyone with half a brain would start to think there is a coverup in progress. Fil1957 Wednesday #29
Also, saying to congress that voting for the discharge petition is a "hostile act". Fil1957 Wednesday #30
I heard that his actions runs deeper than we think vapor2 Wednesday #34
this is the equivalent of the orange asshole sticking his fingers in he ears and yelling "I can't hear you!!" nt Javaman Yesterday #42
If Donnie Rotten thought the sound of jets overhead would silence these women... augyboston Yesterday #43
Trump gives the finger to a female astronaut. Swede Yesterday #46
A pathetic stunt that just makes him look MORE guilty Blue Owl Yesterday #51
I think we're seeing a very small tip of an extraordinarily horrific iceberg. Pacifist Patriot Yesterday #52
Not just the flyovers...I wish at least one journalist would ask judy Yesterday #53
It shows everything you need to know of what Trump thinks of women. underpants Yesterday #54
The flyovers were a stupid stunt LetMyPeopleVote 10 hrs ago #55

Walleye

(42,214 posts)
1. It must be shitty. Must be pretty bad whatever's in there.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:39 PM
Wednesday

We already know he’s a criminal and a creep and a rapist. What more could come out, geez

Jersey Devil

(10,476 posts)
3. My guess is clear proof he knew what Epstein was doing
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:45 PM
Wednesday

I don't think there is any evidence that Trump ever actively took part in it, but I bet the files show clearly that he knew what was going on and at the minimum kept quiet about it.

Walleye

(42,214 posts)
8. I think he may have participated in some way in the blackmail
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:59 PM
Wednesday

Maybe he participated in threatening the girls not to talk

Traildogbob

(11,741 posts)
13. Hard for me
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:12 PM
Wednesday

To believe a convicted rapist that openly admitted he grabs women by the pussy, and in videos with Epstein drooling over women, spoke of sexual desires for his daughter, and stalked teenage pageant girls, Would walk away when offered 13-14 year old girls at his command.
So his Moral values and lifelong respect for women would not allow him to go there?
This pig would gang bang a couch with Vance, as long as it was young and barely used.

Martin Eden

(14,830 posts)
16. Same here.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:43 PM
Wednesday

The notion that serial sexual abuser Donald did not indulge his desires with teenage girls under the control of his best friend is VERY hard to believe.

some_of_us_are_sane

(1,844 posts)
22. The BEST line yet!!!
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:27 PM
Wednesday
"This pig would gang bang a couch with Vance, as long as it was young and barely used."


(Thank you Traildogbob.)

Bluetus

(1,452 posts)
37. No Fing way. This goes much deeper
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 11:50 PM
Wednesday

Trump isn't afraid of anybody knowing he raped young girls. We already knew that, or at least had every reason to expect that.

To understand this business, one must follow the money. There were hundreds of millions of dollars passing through Epstein's accounts. I don't care how many prostitutes you can recruit, they can't possible have enough sex to kick off hundreds of millions of dollars.

Do the math. Let's say that Epstein's clients were really, really appreciative, and they paid $2000 for each encounter. To generate the money going into Epstein's accounts, Epstein would have to bill for 100,000 sexual acts. That never happened. Not even close. Moreover, I doubt any of his clients paid ANYTHING for the service. This was not about sex. This was about extortion and it was about recruiting more agents for Russia, Mussad and other dark forces. And it was about the money laundering that we already knew Trump was running through his casinos and resorts. THAT is how you get numbers in the hundreds of millions.

So what is Trump likely trying to cover up? I can't say precisely. But I bet it is along the lines of Trump playing an active role in recruiting prominent people into Epstein's sex extortion trap. We know that Prince Andrew got caught up in that. How much would the Royal Family pay to keep that out of the news? Quite a bit, I'd say.

And let's understand this all happened on the same timeline that the KGB was grooming Trump as an asset. These things are likely intertwined very deeply.

It is not about the sex. It is much bigger than that.

guss

(247 posts)
47. All about the Money
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:42 AM
Yesterday

Trump Doesn't Care about Sex trafficking, giving out secrets to our adversary's, Fraud taking from charities. kill a boat load of people.
If he Makes money. or its to cover up his ass or to promote it. It's not wrong.

Trueblue Texan

(3,699 posts)
44. That's what I think too.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:18 AM
Yesterday

He is so greedy, it's hard to believe he would stop at mere sexual abuse of young women and girls. He always wants a cut of the profits. My guess is that's the real reason he and Epstein parted ways. Epstein told Michael Wolfe he always believed TSF turned him in to the FBI. It's curious that Maria Farmer's complaint went nowhere, but after Epstein and TSF became estranged, the FBI built a case against Epstein.

Walleye

(42,214 posts)
48. Question we should be asking is, does anybody think he wouldn't do any of this shit if he had a chance ?
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:58 AM
Yesterday

I think we know him well enough now to know what he is capable of: Anything, to get money to get fame to pretend he’s winning. .

PatSeg

(50,885 posts)
25. Yes and as I recall, it was pretty brutal
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:12 PM
Wednesday

I think he's guilty and that is why he is responding so defensively.

Walleye

(42,214 posts)
49. Yep he totally has the personality of a rapist. Will not take no for an answer. That's what makes a rapist.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:00 AM
Yesterday

AllyCat

(18,175 posts)
36. Evidence? You mean the testimony from all his victims
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 11:18 PM
Wednesday

Is “just talk”? He definitely participated. They are not lying.

mwmisses4289

(2,064 posts)
10. That he was actually a business partner?
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:01 PM
Wednesday

That his role was more than than just that of a good friend who attended the house parties?

Jersey Devil

(10,476 posts)
12. My thinking as well
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:08 PM
Wednesday

Something along the lines you describe or perhaps giving tips to Epstein about where to acquire more victims. Trump had the girls, at his beauty pageants and Mara Lago and got pissed when Epstein poached Giuffre from Mara Lago without Trump's permission.

slightlv

(6,516 posts)
19. I've always thought this...
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:09 PM
Wednesday

he was more than a customer, he was a business partner. And not just in the sex trafficking. Epstein was involved in arms dealing and lots of other stuff with Israel and other countries. I would lay odds russia wasn't the only country working against us where the elections with trump were concerned. The other countries didn't want their names and crimes brought to light, and their greedy selves wanted more and more arms and laws from trump that could help them.

If the American people ever found out, beyond a doubt, how screwed our elections have been for at least the last two decades, I would hope there'd be a major revolution.

Donkees

(33,055 posts)
2. A group of F-16s flew in a missing man formation as tribute to Polish Air Force F-16 pilot, Maj. Maciej "Slab" Krakowian
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:43 PM
Wednesday

who died in a crash in Poland on Aug. 28.

Poland's new president, Karol Nawrocki, arrived at the White House on Wednesday

https://www.boston25news.com/news/politics/polish-president/B6BOT54LNZB5TJNX7UL2GEMWTU/

RockRaven

(17,805 posts)
6. If Trump is so innocent, why doesn't he want radical transparency, to prove it?
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:50 PM
Wednesday

Only one conclusion to draw from the way he behaves...

riversedge

(77,539 posts)
11. This woman was talking and she just looked up and gave them a wave!!
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:04 PM
Wednesday

Daniel Goldman
@danielsgoldman
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Trump spends oodles of $$ for an absurd military flyover to silence victims of Epstein’s and Maxwell’s awful crimes as he protects the perpetrators of those crimes.
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WH Flyover interrupts Epstein Survivors press conference


Skittles

(167,043 posts)
41. it's bizarre
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 05:44 AM
Yesterday

If they're this bad at coverup, imagine how bad they they are at their actual jobs. Oh wait.

calimary

(87,642 posts)
17. So PETTY and EMBARRASSING it is almost unimaginable.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:52 PM
Wednesday

Yep. Tells you everything you need to know.

GoCubsGo

(34,246 posts)
20. And, beyond desperate.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:19 PM
Wednesday

Imagine having to resort to ordering military jets to fly over an event multiple times, just so their noise could drown out the speakers. And, actually believing that would shut them up. And, actually believing that the rest of us wouldn't know exactly what you were trying to do there. Not only was it petty, embarrassing, and desperate. It was also STUPID.

Justice matters.

(8,819 posts)
38. The convicted pedo is still a malignant toddler who lives in his own magic world
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 01:15 AM
Yesterday

and he believes he can do whatever he wants to whoever crosses his path, without being held accountable for any of his malignant wrongdoings (called "crimes" in the criminal code). And now, he uses the taxpayers' money to not only pay for his golf trips, but also to force the military to participate in his cover up shenanigans.

Evolve Dammit

(21,188 posts)
24. agreed. Unbelievably weird, petty, reactionary, waste of OUR $, etc. Same playground bully shit and means he's up to
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:56 PM
Wednesday

his eyeballs despite the 2,000?? FBI agents who poured over the "files" to look for Drumpf implications
I recall that there were hard drives and lots of other info in the safe they cut open when they raided Epstein's house. There is so much more and will we ever know? How about we just get the 400 plus page indictment that the FL US Attorney filed? 2009?

2naSalit

(97,687 posts)
27. Should have had it indoors...
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:17 PM
Wednesday

i guess. But this isn't the end of it so whatever stupid stunts are attempted to thwart this will fail.

Fil1957

(203 posts)
29. Also very stupid. If they haven't already, anyone with half a brain would start to think there is a coverup in progress.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:34 PM
Wednesday

vapor2

(2,978 posts)
34. I heard that his actions runs deeper than we think
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:52 PM
Wednesday

and the flyover an obvious attempt to distract/obstruct etc. YES, expose.them.all

Javaman

(64,438 posts)
42. this is the equivalent of the orange asshole sticking his fingers in he ears and yelling "I can't hear you!!" nt
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:40 AM
Yesterday

augyboston

(372 posts)
43. If Donnie Rotten thought the sound of jets overhead would silence these women...
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 08:21 AM
Yesterday

He was dead wrong!

Their courage against the most powerful people in the world is so admirable and inspiring it brings tears.

Fly all the jets you want, nothing will keep the truth from coming out.

Why suddenly this is a Democratic hoax (if I never hear that word again, it'll be much too soon) when Donnie called for releasing these files when he was a candidate?!?

Release the Epstein files in their entirety immdiately.

judy

(1,958 posts)
53. Not just the flyovers...I wish at least one journalist would ask
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:53 AM
Yesterday

"Mr.President, as you are committed to transparency, why did you call voting for the discharge petition to release the Epstein files a 'hostile act'"?
Answer "bla bla bla already released, transparency is my thing, bla bla drivel drivel"
Reporter: "So then, why did you term it hostile?"
Answer: "Bad question...NEXT!"
This tells you everything you need to know...

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