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bigtree

(92,377 posts)
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 07:02 PM Tuesday

"Have we truly lost all sense of sanity in this nation that we treat this as normal?"

The Bulwark @BulwarkOnline
Gov. Pritzker: “When did we become a country where it’s ok for the U.S. president to insist on national television that a state should call him to beg for anything, especially something we don’t want? Have we truly lost all sense of sanity in this nation that we treat this as normal?”

"We have reason to believe that Stephen Miller chose the month of September to come to Chicago because of celebrations around Mexican Independence Day that happen here every year," Pritzker said. "It breaks my heart to report that we have been told ICE will try and disrupt community picnics and peaceful parades. Let's be clear: the terror and cruelty is the point, not the safety of anyone living here."

"[They said] they will begin operations here sometime in the coming week," Pritzker said in an exclusive interview earlier Tuesday. "That - literally after two weeks of all this talk about troops on the ground - that's the first time we've heard from the federal government on this."

In a Tuesday press conference from the White House, President Donald Trump called Chicago a "hell hole," and said he will in fact send National Guard troops in.

"If the governor of Illinois would call me up, I would love to do it,” he said. “Now, we're going to do it anyway. We have a right to do it.”

Pritzker responded by saying, "I refuse to play a reality game show with Donald Trump again."

"When did we become a country where it's OK for the US president to insist on national television that a state should call him to beg for anything, especially something we don't want? Have we truly lost all sense of sanity in this nation that we treat this as normal?" Pritzker said.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/pritzker-believes-staging-for-federal-enforcement-in-chicago-has-already-begun/3818551/


Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker press conference today:


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"Have we truly lost all sense of sanity in this nation that we treat this as normal?" (Original Post) bigtree Tuesday OP
What will happen if the Illinois National Guard blocks the invaders? Whose authority rules? question everything Tuesday #1
I'd advise against that, just to avoid the confrontation between Americans bigtree Tuesday #2
First thing they must do is cancel the celebrations, do not give these thugs the opportunity to do anything, Escurumbele Wednesday #25
I think so, too bigtree Wednesday #32
Illinois NG can be nationalized. Sneederbunk Tuesday #3
Yep, it's 100% going to be the same shit he pulled in LA. Citing some archaic law and "federalizing" their NG without Karasu Tuesday #8
If MAGA sets that precedent newdeal2 Tuesday #9
They are very clearly attempting to cement permanent control and aren't planning to have any more elections that are Karasu Wednesday #16
So that is Gov. Pritzker -- I am thoroughly impressed Hekate Tuesday #4
100% agreed! I'm liking the way this new front line is shaping up in both Maru Kitteh Tuesday #14
He's the best Illinois governor in my lifetime. By far. greatauntoftriplets Wednesday #30
People will open carry and the military better be careful! BidenRocks Tuesday #5
You might want to listen to Pritzker's speech first, as he KNOWS Trump/Hegseth are jonesing... Hekate Wednesday #31
I grew up with the Gulf of Tonkin incident? BidenRocks Wednesday #34
Sad to say, yes we have. ananda Tuesday #6
It's too bad Trump didn't have this attitude about deploying troops on 1/6/2021. Prof. Toru Tanaka Tuesday #7
Absolutely! He blamed Nancy Pelosi. KitFox Tuesday #13
A few months ago, he blamed NIKKI HALEY for not calling National Guard! 70sEraVet Wednesday #22
Oh geez! I missed that! Gawd, we are stuck in the twilight zone with this unhinged imbecile! KitFox Wednesday #33
Trumps actions on 1/6 were planned. hadEnuf Tuesday #15
Who would expect him to deploy the NG on Jan 6 when the insurrection was his plan? Escurumbele Wednesday #27
Yes lonely bird Tuesday #10
One state needs to arrest a bunch of these masked, badgeless , nameless, thugs ....... mjvpi Tuesday #11
K&R UTUSN Tuesday #12
Trump ignores laws but those who fight back don't; so far. twodogsbarking Wednesday #17
This message needs to be spread far and wide. kentuck Wednesday #18
Can the Illinois National Guard not be called up to protect celebrations, to ensure Bev54 Wednesday #19
President Trump and the GOP have lost their sanity. surfered Wednesday #20
Normal for Republican governing. republianmushroom Wednesday #21
January 20th, 2025. Ray Bruns Wednesday #23
We have an administration of bullies and deviants. Martin68 Wednesday #24
I thought the Republican Party is the party of state's rights ? paulrevere2018 Wednesday #26
It can be summed up in two words: FOX NEWS. Initech Wednesday #28
So.....is it the plan to put us all in jail so we can't vote!??? diverdownjt Wednesday #29

bigtree

(92,377 posts)
2. I'd advise against that, just to avoid the confrontation between Americans
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 07:13 PM
Tuesday

...Trump will likely overreach and Illinois will have to look to the courts to restore or assert the primacy of the state in military deployments.

The caution for the governor would be the likely claim of an 'emergency' by the administration along the lines of the one they're operating under with their immigration raids. That's likely why they included that element in the planned invasion and occupation of Illinois.

The 'emergencies' have yet to be directly addressed by any court, but there's an air of compliance and complicity in the courts, especially the Supreme Court, so he's going to need to bend, at least initially.

The LA decision isn't much cover because that judge limited the ruling to LA, and left 300 troops in place, essentially telling them to behave in the future.

Escurumbele

(3,873 posts)
25. First thing they must do is cancel the celebrations, do not give these thugs the opportunity to do anything,
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:33 PM
Wednesday

next year, when things change, and I believe they will change, they can resume them.

Best thing is to keep everyone away from the thugs, have watch groups who can advice where they are, if the thigs f=go this way, then everyone leave, or go the other way, keep them guessing, but don't allow them to commit their crimes.

Karasu

(1,956 posts)
8. Yep, it's 100% going to be the same shit he pulled in LA. Citing some archaic law and "federalizing" their NG without
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:16 PM
Tuesday

having to give so much as a fucking justification. Because "crime."

newdeal2

(3,808 posts)
9. If MAGA sets that precedent
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:23 PM
Tuesday

They will be sorry one day. They will face the consequences under a future president.

Karasu

(1,956 posts)
16. They are very clearly attempting to cement permanent control and aren't planning to have any more elections that are
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:40 AM
Wednesday

both free and fair, but one can hope.

Hekate

(99,273 posts)
4. So that is Gov. Pritzker -- I am thoroughly impressed
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 07:32 PM
Tuesday

We actually have seen this “beg me” behavior from Trump before — during the Covid pandemic. Trump is without question a sadist, and he appoints sadists to do his bidding.

Maru Kitteh

(30,545 posts)
14. 100% agreed! I'm liking the way this new front line is shaping up in both
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:42 PM
Tuesday

substance and style. Pritzger was quite impressive indeed!

greatauntoftriplets

(178,151 posts)
30. He's the best Illinois governor in my lifetime. By far.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:13 PM
Wednesday

It's hard to reckon that with his being a billionaire, but J.B. is the exception to the rule.

BidenRocks

(2,104 posts)
5. People will open carry and the military better be careful!
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:16 PM
Tuesday

They are out manned and outgunned.

If the military attacks us on illegal orders, veterans will lead the resistance.

Sniper attacks and drones. Just like Ukraine.

Will OUR military follow a diktator or the Constitution?

Many lives depend on that decision!

Hekate

(99,273 posts)
31. You might want to listen to Pritzker's speech first, as he KNOWS Trump/Hegseth are jonesing...
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:18 PM
Wednesday

…. for an excuse, any excuse, to gun you down and declare martial law on the rest of us.

Therefore Gov. Pritzker is advising Chicagoans to chill out and go about their business.

But I get the impression from what you wrote that you yourself want a bloody battle. Yes? That’s what you describe.

BidenRocks

(2,104 posts)
34. I grew up with the Gulf of Tonkin incident?
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:47 PM
Wednesday

Chump doesn't need an excuse. Like that small boat getting blown up because he says so?

What happens after he invades the fifth, sixth ... city?

This books been written.

Resist!

ananda

(32,961 posts)
6. Sad to say, yes we have.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:45 PM
Tuesday

Not only are so many minds descending into madness
and chaos, coupled with abject cruelty... but the world
around us is being systematically destroyed and will
be made unliveable sooner rather than later.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,778 posts)
7. It's too bad Trump didn't have this attitude about deploying troops on 1/6/2021.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:59 PM
Tuesday

If I remember correctly, he claimed he didn’t have the authority to do so.

70sEraVet

(4,832 posts)
22. A few months ago, he blamed NIKKI HALEY for not calling National Guard!
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:11 PM
Wednesday
"Nikki Haley, you know they, do you know they destroyed all of the information, all of the evidence, everything, deleted and destroyed all of it. All of it, because of lots of things like Nikki Haley is in charge of security. We offered her 10,000 people, soldiers, National Guard, whatever they want.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-confuses-nikki-haley-pelosi-talking-jan-6-rcna134863
You know, he's that genius who can supposedly remember a string of five words -- and "they said, we've never seen anything like it!"

KitFox

(381 posts)
33. Oh geez! I missed that! Gawd, we are stuck in the twilight zone with this unhinged imbecile!
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:21 PM
Wednesday

hadEnuf

(3,369 posts)
15. Trumps actions on 1/6 were planned.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:53 PM
Tuesday

His actions now are planned. It's never been a question of his attitude.

His actions and the actions of those who run him are as clear as day. They have crossed too many lines already and it's just going to continue.

Escurumbele

(3,873 posts)
27. Who would expect him to deploy the NG on Jan 6 when the insurrection was his plan?
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:37 PM
Wednesday

He helped the insurrection exactly the best way he could, by allowing them to destroy and try to stop the confirmation, anyone who expected the opposite has not realized yet who trump is.

mjvpi

(1,771 posts)
11. One state needs to arrest a bunch of these masked, badgeless , nameless, thugs .......
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:30 PM
Tuesday

And hold them on state charges with no bail. IL might be pissed enough. J

Bev54

(12,801 posts)
19. Can the Illinois National Guard not be called up to protect celebrations, to ensure
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 11:29 AM
Wednesday

no masked ice allowed without specific warrants and if they have specific warrants that the local law enforcement will go with one ice agent to pickup the individual in a lawful manner?

Ray Bruns

(5,556 posts)
23. January 20th, 2025.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:17 PM
Wednesday

"When did we become a country where it's OK for the US president to insist on national television that a state should call him to beg for anything”

Initech

(106,173 posts)
28. It can be summed up in two words: FOX NEWS.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:41 PM
Wednesday

Fox News is the worst thing that's happened to the United States since the Civil War. Hell other countries are importing Fox' brand of fascism and making it their own (see: Hungary, Russia, etc). It's scary. Fox is the enemy of freedom, common sense, and basic human decency.

diverdownjt

(733 posts)
29. So.....is it the plan to put us all in jail so we can't vote!???
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:51 PM
Wednesday

If you think all the internment camps are for the mexican's? Trump is deploying troops into blue cities so when he announces no more elections the nat. guard will already be there to quell the riots. Anyone rioting(protesting) will be arrested and off to the camp with you.

This is my fear. I'm a registered voter. My address is known in a voter database....is it so unreasonable...not to be a possibility.
American Patriot born and raised. Please tell if you think I'm right.

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