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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGhislaine Maxwell's Tapes Are Bad For MAGATs
Maxwell says she never saw Trump act "inappropriately", clearing him. She also said Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton and all other high-profile men on the plane and hanging around Epstein also never had sex with underage girls.
So, if you think Clinton and Prince Andrew are guilty, that puts Trump in the same boat. Her interview was laughable and makes MAGAts look foolish.

Scrivener7
(56,831 posts)We would think that fact would make even maga see he's lying, but I'm not holding my breath.
JustAnotherGen
(36,699 posts)I'll wait for his assessment of the 33K pages.
Meanwhile, Krasnov is going to inflict horror upon horror on Democratic cities, counties, and States.
We have to abide. We have to lower case tOlerate while Elected Democrats get through the documents so they can report back to us who is in there.
Today would be a good day for the people of Chicago to start 24*7 protests at the Krasnov Tower. Make it lose money.
Scrivener7
(56,831 posts)JustAnotherGen
(36,699 posts)What the House committee received was NOT already in the public eye.
mopinko
(72,882 posts)the ground floor retail has NEVER had a tenant, and the only ppl who go to the bar r magats.
i dont think the hotel is doing much better, and the condo sales r weak.
Scrivener7
(56,831 posts)JustAnotherGen
(36,699 posts)
mopinko
(72,882 posts)and tourists love to take a pic w it in the background and their middle finger in the foreground.
JustAnotherGen
(36,699 posts)For our anniversary we went into NYC to go to the Museum of Natural History, walk through Central Park, go to Manhattan Dollhouse (I'm a miniaturist), visit WTC, have dinner at the top.
Walking past Krasnov Tower they had an impressionist out there waving.
That is the biggest, hip dip bird I've ever thrown.😃 Lots of people were. I was also passed by his entourage driving home from Secaucus one day and threw it there. Fuck that guy. Fuck Bedminster. With the weather changing I hope it gets busted up in a tornado.
mopinko
(72,882 posts)back in the 70s. george becker. made a big name for himself, but it caused some friction at home. 1 day he just up and quit. he has a harpsichord in colleen moores fairy castle.
i have several of his pieces. theyre crazy good. u can find them on ebay now and then. he had some reproductions made, tho, and sellers dont understand about that. which is good and bad. they sorta set the price, and u can get the 1offs for about the same price. theyre much more interesting.
louis-t
(24,447 posts)Our hotel was right next to shithead tower. Our group wanted to go up to the 'scenic terrace' or whatever they call it. We went into the restaurant on the 12th floor (I think) and started to go out the doors to the terrace when a hostess snarled that we needed to "buy something" before we could go out there. We said we would and went out and took photos on the terrace. We never bought anything and left. There was talk of urinating in the elevator on the way down but there were probably cameras....
JustAnotherGen
(36,699 posts)
bucolic_frolic
(52,013 posts)Crooks supporting crooks to climb the career ladder.
JustAnotherGen
(36,699 posts)The hammer and the anvil.
We all speculated that she would clear Krasnov and throw high profile Democrats under the bus.
Regardless - she lied under oath.
Congressman Garcia said he has started reading the 33K pages. I'll wait for his assessment.
gab13by13
(29,461 posts)Probably gonna be waiting a while. Maybe when the full Mueller report is released?
mdbl
(7,210 posts)unless they are on Fux Nooze hating liberals.
Tribetime
(6,783 posts)underpants
(192,325 posts)and thats sadly all it takes now.
sop
(15,632 posts)Maxwell wants a pardon, she still maintains her complete innocence. It would be laughable were Maxwell to accuse Clinton and others of having sex with underage girls while at the same time claiming Trump was the only man who never did anything wrong. Ghislaine has to exonerate everyone, not just Trump, otherwise she's admitting her own guilt.
vapor2
(2,900 posts)only 1% of the records have been turned over and most were old (already released) records. DHS dragging their effn feet
BoRaGard
(7,043 posts)
JustAnotherGen
(36,699 posts)Said 3% was new info? The lawyers worked all night to get that information.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(945 posts)but guess what!
sop
(15,632 posts)Will anyone really be surprised when we eventually learn Epstein, Maxwell, Melania and Trump were Russian operatives gathering kompromat on the rich and powerful?
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(945 posts)Hornedfrog2000
(763 posts)Republicans have sex with children
Qutzupalotl
(15,464 posts)
viva la
(4,243 posts)And does NOT talk to the survivors who testified in court, and whom the jurors believed.
So of all the people involved in that trial-- the judge, the jury, the witnesses, the prosecutors, the survivors--
the president's defense attorney seeks out and believes the one convicted of sexual trafficking.
Martin68
(26,325 posts)in a real prison. I doubt there is an actual "list" - who keeps a list like that? But there is probably hard evidence in photographs or text that the men In question did indeed participate in the pedophillic orgies on Epstein's island.
2naSalit
(97,593 posts)Epstein and maxwell take videos and keep such files as compromat on the participants in order to control them.
mopinko
(72,882 posts)blackmail them to keep their mouths shut.
Martin68
(26,325 posts)thats y they stick together. then so much corruption flows from that.
I'm betting there were video cameras all over the place. I'll also bet they are not in the, "transcripts.)
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Beacool
(30,441 posts)Prince Andrew was one of those men accused of taking advantage of minor girls. Not one woman came out and accused Bill Clinton of anything. I think that MAGATS were hoping that Bill, and other Democrats, were on the "list". Maxwell disappointed them.
mopinko
(72,882 posts)shed have been on faux news long ago.
Beacool
(30,441 posts)None of them were called by Epstein their "closest friend for ten years" like he said of Trump.
ariadne0614
(2,013 posts)She referred to him as President Trump, or the President, not Donald or Mister Trump. Technically, she could have been saying she never saw him engage in sexual behavior with underage girls as president.
RockRaven
(17,710 posts)When a MAGAt wants to wave her words around as a sign of Trump's innocence, her denial about her own behavior is the thing which renders those words worthless.
Engaging in whataboutisms of Clinton or Andrew is a distraction and a waste of time. I'm not in a fucking cult, I have no need or want to defend Clinton. That burden is not on me or the Democratic Party. If someone can prove he did anything, go ahead and do so -- and then punish him as would be deserved. If not, STFU -- it isn't relevant to Trump's actions.
Mysterian
(5,854 posts)They STFU.