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muriel_volestrangler

(104,410 posts)
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 05:59 AM Saturday

Triple murderer that Trump freed is still at large in the USA

That's Dahud Hanid Ortiz, who murdered 3 people in Spain, was convicted in Venezuela (he has joint US-Venezuelan citizenship), and whom Trump did a deal to free from prison and bring back to the USA, where he allowed him to roam the streets.

https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-08-02/victims-of-the-madrid-triple-murderer-released-by-trump-speak-out-we-cannot-understand-the-silence-of-the-authorities.html

Trump has not lifted a finger to protect the public from this maniac. Jeez, he could even do it as a distraction from Epstein! But no, he's OK with an axe murderer free in the USA with no tracking of him at all.

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marble falls

(67,529 posts)
3. Sounds like TACO has given us his own "Walking Willie Horton". Now let's just seriously let him have it.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 07:04 AM
Saturday

Republicans eagerly picked up the Horton issue after Dukakis won the Democratic nomination. In June 1988, Republican candidate George H.W. Bush seized on the Horton case, bringing it up repeatedly in campaign speeches. Bush's campaign manager Lee Atwater said: "By the time we're finished, they're going to wonder whether Willie Horton is Dukakis's running mate."[15]

Campaign staffer James Pinkerton returned with reams of material that Atwater told him to reduce to a 3-by-5-inch (8 cm × 13 cm) index card, telling him, "I'm giving you one thing: You can use both sides of the 3×5 card." Pinkerton discovered the furlough issue by watching the Felt Forum debate. On May 25, 1988, Republican consultants met in Paramus, New Jersey, holding a focus group of "Reagan Democrats" who had voted for Ronald Reagan in 1984.[16] These focus groups convinced Atwater and the other Republican consultants that they should 'go negative' against Dukakis. Further information regarding the furlough came from aide Andrew Card, a Massachusetts native whom President George W. Bush later named as his Chief of Staff.[17]

Over the Fourth of July weekend in 1988, Atwater attended a motorcyclists' convention in Luray, Virginia. Two couples talked about the Horton story featured in the July issue of Reader's Digest. Atwater joined them without mentioning who he was. Later that night, a focus group in Alabama had turned completely against Dukakis when presented with the information about Horton's furlough. Atwater used this occurrence to argue the necessity of pounding Dukakis about the furlough issue.[17]

WIKI

paleotn

(20,769 posts)
4. Exactly. Repukes give us reams upon reams of material to work with. Daily even.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 07:36 AM
Saturday

Yet so many Dems go "Ewwww! Shame! That's not following Marquess of Queensberry Rules!" Yea, like anyone else is in politics.

Lets get more than a little dirty please. We can all get on our high horses AFTER we win. But we gotta win first and this is how we do that. Politics is a sordid, popularity contest, not a goddamn academic debating society.

Scrivener7

(56,831 posts)
7. Just as damaging are those who insist, "I'm sick of all you bad Democrats saying there's more we can do!
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 08:23 AM
Saturday

We're out of power! They are doing all they can!"

Escape

(271 posts)
8. Brilliant words of advice, paleotn...
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 08:28 AM
Saturday

We've been civil, measured and polite long enough. It's time for no holds barred. We should be just as fair and ethical as our opponents have been for the last 20 years.

samsingh

(18,137 posts)
6. Republicans would be talking about this everywhere
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 07:50 AM
Saturday

There would be tweets and press conferences - if a Democratic leader was involved in any way

allegorical oracle

(5,606 posts)
9. In normal times the FBI would likely be alerted to keep a watch on this guy. But now the
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 09:19 AM
Saturday

FBI is busy helping DHS disappear NON-dangerous folks. We now live in bizarro world where the innocents are criminal and the criminals are innocent.

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