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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShhh...don't tell anyone, but Newsom's approval rating has
shot WAY up since he started his trump parodies and redistricting fight! He was at thirty eight and now he's at fifty six! (Heard on local news channel here in CA)
Something tells me Newsom is not going to stop anytime soon!

CaliforniaPeggy
(154,927 posts)senseandsensibility
(23,507 posts)has got more up its sleeve!
Hornedfrog2000
(824 posts)Stop answering the press questions directly. Always go back to trump being a pedophile, and pointing out they have no problem when the orange menace does it.
popsdenver
(319 posts)needs to sit down and have a long talk with themselves.......and ALL of them talk up the crashing economy, food prices, utility prices, gas, etc. AND not stop talking.........
They have been walking down the Jungle Path, swatting at mosquitoes, for quite some time, and were oblivious to the herd of charging Elephants.
(Pun intended)
groundloop
(13,229 posts)At least not nearly to this extent. Fighting against tRump is totally new ground.
But yeah, I believe Gavin Newsom has hit up the perfect way to counter tRump..... make fun of him. Hopefully the rest of the party will be following suit.
popsdenver
(319 posts)from 2016 to J6th 2021????????????
Wow, slow learners.............
summer_in_TX
(3,789 posts)We are in the fight of our lives and it's about damn time that all our leadership acts like it. Gavin is showing the way.
BTW, the mythic stories, songs, art, movies get to parts of human cognition that all the white papers and policy wonk stuff in the world cannot touch. A whole world of mythology to create and inspire, as the superhero memes GCN's comms team has begun to use.
Hammer the villains' stories and the heroes fighting them, every day and in every way.
bagimin
(1,607 posts)He's so fucking un-American by traditional republican standards, and yet, here we are.
Oeditpus Rex
(42,513 posts)It's right up my street, and I have minor-league (Fascistbook) experience.
azureblue
(2,547 posts)"both sides are the same" meme. Their question rarely address how the GOP is destroying America, Trump's lies, corruption and pedophilia.
And taht is what Dems MUST say, when asked those tepid questions that are created within the GOP framework.
AND DO NOT simply respond - turn it around in the reporter - ask ," like why do you ask that question? Why do you ignore Trump's pedophilia?" etc. Make the reporter explain why they asked that question.
The usual scenario is to let each reporter ask a question, then move on to the next reporter, but this lets reporter ask "Spin" questions that are basically "Damned if you do, Damned if you don't" Questions. Democrats must end this by challenging whoever is asking - creating a conversation, not a Q & A session..
I've been watching some vid shorts of a young Democrat fielding calls from MAGAs, and he has a simple tactic "explain your self, what do you believe and why". And the MAGAs always fail because they do not think - it's simply parroted ideology. And this shoud be how these spin merchant reporters (DO you still beat your wife?) can be shut down.
Ligyron
(7,978 posts)The magats believe some ridiculously untrue nonsense too.
Shooting fish in a barrel.
azureblue
(2,547 posts)all sorts of fresh fodder for Newsom. Like raiding Bolton's home today.. Pedo Trump stinks of flop sweat.
BlueKota
(4,525 posts)Silent Type
(10,752 posts)voters who sat out in November. Otherwise, he wont translate nationally.
Anyway, glad to see him talking action.
Hornedfrog2000
(824 posts)And able to dictate the conversation is what is needed. Say some inflamatory statements, and then knock trump out, over and over. Trump will never sue anyone for calling him a pedophile. What is he going to do? It is almost impossible to prove defamation to that extent. Plus, you could prove it with discovery.
Hekate
(99,163 posts)
and others are certainly on board in spreading the action in other blue states. This is what resistance looks like.
It is far from being all about schoolyard taunts altho Im happy with whatever gets under the orange monsters skin.
Silent Type
(10,752 posts)enthusiasm for Newsom, but think we have to convert more than diehard Dems to make sure we win. Not exactly sure how to do that, after last November. But glad we are doing more than write weak letters.
Hekate
(99,163 posts)Millions of us are not staying silent, but are joining in protests. Theres a rapid response notification of you want to join those who are protesting, filming, and standing in witness to the ICE thugs thats if you dont mind getting arrested yourself.
Some of our elected officials are getting arrested and beat up. My own California Senator was shoved to the floor and handcuffed while he was in a federal building on business, because he tried to ask questions during a press conference.
If you have an issue with my Governor spit it out. But Id sure like to know what youd like to see done and how, and who else is doing what that you do approve of. And if its effective.
Thank you.
Silent Type
(10,752 posts)But if my quick research is correct, Newsom got 59% of vote in California, now hes at 56%. That doesnt make me confident hell do well in close swing states we need to win.
Seriously, Id be thrilled for Newsom to win in 2028. Hes just got to do better to win states we need. And, Im not sure there is anyone in a better position than Newsom to do better.
Hekate
(99,163 posts)
with the worlds 4th largest economy and tremendous diversity of population. If this leads to the WH only time will tell, but theres a huge amount to do between then and now, and one item that looms large is to protect California and its residents from Trump trying to destroy us.
Silent Type
(10,752 posts)popsdenver
(319 posts)vote in LOCKSTEP in the House and Senate...........
azureblue
(2,547 posts)I knew, sat out because of the perceived blandness of the Democrat campaigns. I don't agree with it, but I see the point - the Democrats did not show the fire that Repubs did, so, why bother?
Newsom has passion, fire and takes no crap. And is willing to stop a dictatorship.
Bluetus
(1,428 posts)It is simple. Americans (most Democrats) are sick of flowery, vague rhetoric about the sanctity of the Constitution and such. This is not a college debate team where you try to score points to get an "A". Trump and the fascist he leads, is an existential threat and our elected Dems, for the most part, have been unwilling to face that head-on for 15 years.
And Newsom has been among those not taking it nearly seriously enough, having recently come through his Joe Rogan kumbaya phase. Democrats HATED that move. And they are now celebrating that at least one prominent elected Dem is willing to go on the attack in terms Trump and the MAGA people understand. Let's hope the rest of the party gets it soon.
The Wizard
(13,365 posts)with something better than a strongly worded letter.
democratsruletheday
(1,485 posts)fight fire with fire
D_Master81
(2,166 posts)Too many people have tried to debate or take the high road for Trump not realizing that Trump is popular with his base because of how he is. Youre not changing minds by debating with logic and facts. Pointing out how childish and unserious he is is the perfect response.
Hornedfrog2000
(824 posts)It is why he posts these stupid photoshopped pics of himself. It is the same reason putin has boudoir photo shoots of himself on a bare horseback. They become gods to their base.
When Kim Jon-Il was dictator in North Korea, his people would literally sob when they met him.
Americans have no idea the power of brainwashing, and why trump does all this stupid looking shit, because his base equates him to a god. And that is not hyperbole.
orangecrush
(26,415 posts)jgmiller
(621 posts)One is to punch back and the other is to laugh at them. He's doing both and if more do it then Trump falls.
travelingthrulife
(3,089 posts)These people supposedly believe they have souls bound for heaven as Christians, but this movement has taken them so far away from those teachings attributed to Jesus Christ, that those souls are at risk from the perspective of their own religion.
malaise
(288,337 posts)That is all
senseandsensibility
(23,507 posts)I don't speak whatever that is that comes out of his mouth.
malaise
(288,337 posts)😂😂
Mark.b2
(622 posts)But, I dont see any of the other apparent presidential aspirants giving him much trouble or, at this point, even coming close except maybe Pritzker and his deep pockets.
Having to work a little for the nomination would sharpen him for the general.
I like governors as presidential candidates. Maybe one or two more can gain some attention in the next couple of years.
senseandsensibility
(23,507 posts)although I'm sure it is to him. That will take care of itself. In the meantime, we need to get behind him so that we have a chance in the midterms!
Mark.b2
(622 posts)if hes not already. We certainly need one.
Colberts question to Harris recently drove home that point to me. It didnt bother me that she didnt answer so much as the fact that he had to even ask the question.
senseandsensibility
(23,507 posts)The press seems to need someone to run to get quotes about what Dems are doing, someone who speaks for the party. I don't know if Newsom would describe himself that way but we could do worse. And it's better than just being ignored in favor of more trump coverage.
travelingthrulife
(3,089 posts)He's educable.
I hope we don't lose our independent redistricting board in California. It is how we have been able to get a breather from GOP idiocy.
Baitball Blogger
(50,833 posts)ecstatic
(34,885 posts)And I've had my purse closed tightly for months!
twodogsbarking
(15,297 posts)
CommonHumanity
(325 posts)Just goes to show that the politicans are lagging behind the citizens. Dems lose a lot of support when they don't fight and allow people without a nuanced view to think "they're all the same". WE WANT FIGHTERS god damn it. Time for the dems to leave the old political paradigms behind (or maybe return to their Roosevelt roots). Newsom is surging and Bernie and AOC consistently fill the house - no more proof needeed.
allegorical oracle
(5,635 posts)another handsome dude who thought he was hot stuff, and the fact that he had been married to Guilfoyle didn't help. I would vote for him if he ran for Prez.
senseandsensibility
(23,507 posts)It was so long ago and she was a completely different person then. She was actually a respected lawyer and appeared on TV as a legal expert. She had a pretty impressive resume at the time. It's not his fault that she changed for the worse.
travelingthrulife
(3,089 posts)pretty quickly. Then posted a pic of don jr. with a new beau.
bucolic_frolic
(52,100 posts)using Donnie's tactics. Ouch that must hurt.
Joinfortmill
(18,757 posts)SouthBayDem
(32,896 posts)but he is the front runner among CA Dems in 2028 polling: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/20/newsom-harris-2028-california-poll-00515722
Gore1FL
(22,582 posts)In the meantime, I will say, I will choose someone who chose to fight. Ergo, he will be on the list.
I do hope I have more choices, even if he ultimately is the one I choose.
For now, Gavin, Go Like Hell!
live love laugh
(15,769 posts)Scarborough and Vance trying to shame GCN; Trumps changed his tweet style (all of a sudden he can spell, conjugate verbs and isnt using all caps); and MTG is claiming Crockett is not black (enough)
travelingthrulife
(3,089 posts)That would settle this issue.
PuraVidaDreamin
(4,331 posts)When any top dem has a press conference the media get bored.
And also is controlled by their billionaire owners.
But Newsome's style is irresistible to them-
They get all Pavlovian and the rest of the dems should take notice and follow.
calimary
(87,552 posts)Gum Logger
(191 posts)
But that would have been California Dreaming
C Moon
(13,123 posts)to red states.
C Moon
(13,123 posts)senseandsensibility
(23,507 posts)
mike_c
(36,707 posts)senseandsensibility
(23,507 posts)I think some of them would be surprised at how much support would receive if they just let it rip.
stopdiggin
(14,292 posts)I'm really kind of hoping that this doesn't translate into conviction that he is THE candidate heading into 28.
From the perspective of someone having lived in a number of different places around the country ....
Serious headwinds there ....
And I say that with some regrets, and reservation. but ... It's just - the unvarnished truth.
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TBF
(35,181 posts)I know they are moderate or whatever other purity tests people have. I actually know very little about either - I'm down here in TX just trying to keep my head down as they flood the borders with military.
Truth be told I'd vote for a doorknob over Trump ... and to see someone finally stand up to him is amazing!