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https://apnews.com/article/conservative-christians-sin-of-toxic-empathy-c9ab96faf99605e010f487df61d92d8fIs empathy a sin? Some conservative Christians argue it can be
By TIFFANY STANLEY
Updated 6:16 AM CDT, August 21, 2025
WASHINGTON (AP) Empathy is usually regarded as a virtue, a key to human decency and kindness. And yet, with increasing momentum, voices on the Christian right are preaching that it has become a vice.
For them, empathy is a cudgel for the left: It can manipulate caring people into accepting all manner of sins according to a conservative Christian perspective, including abortion access, LGBTQ+ rights, illegal immigration and certain views on social and racial justice.
Empathy becomes toxic when it encourages you to affirm sin, validate lies or support destructive policies, said Allie Beth Stuckey, author of Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion.
Stuckey, host of the popular podcast Relatable, is one of two evangelicals who published books within the past year making Christian arguments against some forms of empathy.
The other is Joe Rigney, a professor and pastor who wrote The Sin of Empathy: Compassion and its Counterfeits. It was published by Canon Press, an affiliate of Rigneys conservative denomination, which counts Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth among its members.
These anti-empathy arguments gained traction in the early months of President Donald Trumps second term, with his flurry of executive orders that critics denounced as lacking empathy.
As foreign aid stopped and more deportations began, Trumps then-adviser Elon Musk told podcaster Joe Rogan: The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy.
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Because Jesus said: "It is fun to make them suffer and kill them"

sop
(15,718 posts)yardwork
(67,779 posts)They've rewritten their own gospel to say the opposite of Jesus's teachings. For them, money is good, rich people are blessed, and the poor are pests. Tolerance and love for others is a sin.
It's literally the opposite of Jesus's teachings.
markodochartaigh
(3,735 posts)This god has several faces, one of which is money.
LeftInTX
(33,282 posts)flashman13
(1,488 posts)They read (the parts they like) one book in their entire life and they presume to tell you that they know what the lord high holy omnipotent master of the universe is thinking, and what (he, she, it, whatever) wants. They also will tell you that after reading this one book they are ready and entitled to run the planet. That is some serious hutzbah!
Bourgeois Liberal
(18 posts)for white evangelicals only.
Oeditpus Rex
(42,513 posts)That's what they want to be called and that's how they see themselves, but they're no more "conservative" than my butt is green.
They 're right-wingers.
eppur_se_muova
(39,783 posts)They care as far as their own front porch...anything beyond that is merely lip service so they look good in the public eye.
Walleye
(42,127 posts)affirm sin, validate lies or support destructive policies, Trumpers do this all the time. without being burdened by empathy. Anybody whos not a rabid Trumper is the left
Moostache
(10,741 posts)There is no "Christ" in whatever the fuck the GOP is marketing as "Christian nationalism". It is a sick joke.
bucolic_frolic
(52,097 posts)But, Catholicism slipped easily into the Spanish Inquisition, and some subsets - the Jesuits - were no shrinking violets. Suffering and punishment were responses to the Black Death. Salvation through suffering is a way of life for some of these people.
dalton99a
(89,911 posts)"Obey your king. Your reward is in heaven."
Chasstev365
(6,074 posts)However, if he did the "Christian" right would be the first ones to call for his crucifixion
Just Jerome
(314 posts)their AR15s and turn him into Swiss Cheesus.
Oeditpus Rex
(42,513 posts)(the latter as in Monty Python's Flying Circus), screaming, "What is this dreck?! We want prime rib and good wine! You can manage the wine, can't you?"
Moostache
(10,741 posts)The autorities of religion (and now in religopolitik) want one thing and one thing only - OBEDIENCE. They want power too, but they really have no aims to use that power beyond extending their hold on more power, but to do that they need obedient drones to boss around and to use as a weapon against that which would displace them - the truth and knowledge.
Dostoevskey's inquisitor explains to the returned Christ that He is not needed for the church's plans, that He had his chance and chose to give man free will instead of order and rules and that the Church had 'fixed' this error. Today's religopolitks are replete with this notion - they alone have a right to rule and no one should EVER deign to challenge that.
Fuck them all. Hard.
Oeditpus Rex
(42,513 posts)said everything worth knowing was in The Brothers Karamazov, "But that isn't enough anymore"? Was it Eliot Rosewater? (It's been at least 40 years since I last read it.)
Moostache
(10,741 posts)It was a while ago that I read Slaughterhouse Five too... too long but things just seem to get away from me more these days!
BoRaGard
(7,160 posts)repubes are making his case for him
murielm99
(32,293 posts)I love this. May I steal it?
BoRaGard
(7,160 posts)
Biophilic
(6,017 posts)Do they realize that eventually they will turn on each other?
BWdem4life
(2,662 posts)My aunt has always been a devout Catholic, but wants nothing to do with tRump or his followers. Pretty sure she has been voting Democratic recently.
DBoon
(24,175 posts)Look up The 30 Years War.
Biophilic
(6,017 posts)The hate runs deep in religious wars. No mercy for anyone.
Oeditpus Rex
(42,513 posts)we could send them all to some remote, inescapable island. They'd turn on each other much faster until there was no one left but one survivor. And what would he/she do then?
hatrack
(63,418 posts)
HeartsCanHope
(1,262 posts)These so called Christians better start reading that $60.00 Bible that the melon Antichrist conned them into buying! I think they'll find in Matthew 25, verses 31-46, that whatever they did NOT do to help the "least of these brothers and sisters of mine", will keep them out of Heaven! Those that don't feed the hungry, give water to the thirsty, WELCOME THE STRANGER (foreigner,) give the needy clothing, comfort the sick, and visit those in prison--they "will go to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." What good does it do for them to be Christians if they don't follow Christ's teachings!
thought crime
(722 posts)Faith is the one way ticket to paradise and nothing else matters, because "we are all sinners".
I've heard this over and over even while trying hard not to pay attention to those people. But thanks for that Bible reference.
HeartsCanHope
(1,262 posts)So Ocelot II was the original poster of the Bible reference.
William Seger
(11,777 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(104,449 posts)If they were in Iran or Saudi Arabia, they'd be fundamentalist Muslims enforcing clothing laws on women with violent penalties. In Stalin's regime, they'd had been atheists joyfully persecuting Christians. In India, they'd be radical Hindus, attacking Muslims, and urging Modi even further to the right. In Israel, they'd be ultra-Orthodox Jews advocating the ethnic cleansing of Gaza, and settlements in the West Bank that steal land from Palestinians. In North Korea, they'd be leading the cult of worship of the Kims. And so on.
C_U_L8R
(47,943 posts)But their eternal damnation is simply being them. What a despicable existence.
FalloutShelter
(13,727 posts)librechik
(30,894 posts)The scholars are way off on this. Isn't Jesus' motto along the lines of wherever you see a poor or sick person we need to think it is Jesus himself and help as if that person were a child of God? Did I get Sunday School wrong?
Ocelot II
(126,794 posts)34 Then the King will say to those on his right, Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.
37 Then the righteous will answer him, Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?
40 The King will reply, Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.
41 Then he will say to those on his left, Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.
44 They also will answer, Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?
45 He will reply, Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.
There doesn't seem to be much wiggle room: Show compassion to anyone who is hungry, thirsty, naked, sick, a stranger or in prison, with no exceptions, or you'll go to hell. Very straightforward, IMO.
yardwork
(67,779 posts)Moostache
(10,741 posts)HeartsCanHope
(1,262 posts)I didn't read down far enough when I started reading the comments to find yours. I commented using the same scriptures to a post a little higher up. Your comments are exactly how I feel--if you say you follow Christ, then follow his teachings. You don't get to pick and choose or edit Christ's words! Great post!
3Hotdogs
(14,483 posts)BWdem4life
(2,662 posts)You need actual help.
Cheezoholic
(3,251 posts)Clouds Passing
(5,624 posts)struggle4progress
(124,173 posts)while pretending it's "Christianity"
ancianita
(41,505 posts)The more they commit these sins of omission and, worst of all, Pride -- the deadliest sin of all -- the closer to hell they and their souls are.
Matthew 25:32-33, 41-46
32. And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33. And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left...
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
JI7
(92,480 posts)they are full of shit.
twodogsbarking
(15,285 posts)EnergizedLib
(2,705 posts)And sin, in my view, isnt real.
barbtries
(30,692 posts)they do ritual well. that's all
using their religion to make people hate other people. crusades. indoctrination, discrimination, suffering and causing suffering.
#Atheist
they cannot even begin to change how i feel about empathy. I am empathic, not a true empath. I would not change it even if I could. fuck them.
LetMyPeopleVote
(168,802 posts)Empathy is a good thing
mwmisses4289
(1,986 posts)Ilsa
(63,169 posts)but these people on the right make me ashamed to be a Christian. Thank goodness my minister isn't one of them.
milestogo
(21,635 posts)tryharder
(14 posts)The way I see it, this particular anti empathy BS is part of an Orwellian labeled fake Christian movement that calls itself Real Christians. Thats their newspeak for it. It might be just me, but Ive noticed they rarely use the word Christianity as reference, esp. compared to terminology like Real Christians and/or American Christians law-abiding Christians biblical Christians (although the final one there might have a tiny .00 whatever percentage who arent rightwing/conservative, only a fraction at this point in USA) etc.
Its fascism. I have a theory there are quite a few, but in modern, what used to be liberal capitalist USA there are two main flavors of God belief/faith in God.
Possibly genetic factors, but particularly trauma and/along with exposure to conservative isolation ends up hardwiring the image of God/godliness starting in the late teenage years and during and thru mid 20s with perfectionist discipline, self-control over childish interests and late adolescent (pubescent sexual) urges, and finally, revenge against those who refuse to grow up and see that order, control, worship of divine authority figure is the truth of God is a necessary healthy obsession.
I think this is such a strong effect at certain times in our society (or others- Germany 1930s) that it will build up until the conservative, religiously progressively misled people decide to basically flip the switch on their own churches.
And its like, they subconsciously (or perhaps consciously and proudly for some) know that theyve changed eras/phases. Terms like charity, forgiveness, welcoming the other typically associated with Christianity are left in their past while Christian Nationalism becomes the new religion, rewarding patriotic Christians (whatever that means that day), instead of valuing empathy or kindness.
As the fascist leader takes over for these foolish people, his crimes and those of his cohorts in business require destruction of the poor, hurting the marginalized for chaos, division, and to placate the most hateful who want that instead of policy.
Empathy becomes a sin and the church is willing to go along with it, because theyre so institutionally similar in the final stages.
pfitz59
(11,781 posts)empathy is a cornerstone of Christianity
Iggo
(49,113 posts)And thats bullshit.
patphil
(8,187 posts)This is just a way some people justify their callous, loveless nature.
The radical religious right has no interest in following the teachings of Jesus, but they're all in on adhering to the antithesis of what He stood for.
GiqueCee
(2,751 posts)... are the complete antithesis of everything they purport to represent. They are the very embodiment of pure, undiluted evil. They are a cancer that poisons the very soul of humanity. Do not... do NOT let such a vile and hateful belief system pervert all that is good and worthy about America. Only irredeemably rotten sociopaths can even think about subscribing to such malevolence. We're better than this.
JT45242
(3,584 posts)If you are commanded to live...you must have empathy
Wanna go old testament. Micah 6:8 what does the Lord require of you? Do justice, live mercy, and walk humbly with your God.
These Christian nationalists are a heresy and do great harm to people who try to actually live those three statements.
They love pride, anger, and power.
Hypocrites that Jesus and the prophets would condemn.
Ksout
(16 posts)multigraincracker
(36,166 posts)attributed to Jesus, like the Beatitudes. If they say yes, tell them that would be a confession. Then tell them since they confessed, I can truly tell them. You Are Forgiven, Now Go And Sin No More.
JHB
(37,812 posts)ironman_25
(15 posts)I was raised and attended an evangelical church the first 60 years of my life. It finally dawned on me they were more interested in walking the walk Fox] News subscribed to than what the bible teaches. Inside the church building they proclaim how we should look after our fellow man but when they exit the door for the parking lot it is like Jekyll and Hyde. How more immoral can you get than Trump yet they claim he was picked to be president by God. Case closed.
Figarosmom
(8,043 posts)Like they don't manipulate people to hate and fear.
thought crime
(722 posts)But one economist from way back said the under Capitalism, "All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned".
hamsterjill
(16,399 posts)Jesus preached grace and mercy and love. We all fail every single day in those areas, but we STRIVE to do the best we can based on his teachings.
I choose to be a Christian and my faith is important to me. That does not mean (to me) that anyone else has to believe the same as I do. It's about having a choice. But when these crazies actually try to use scripture to justify their hatefulness, it becomes a little absurd.
Norrrm
(2,801 posts)The newer Messiah represents our current crop of Christians very well.
durablend
(8,457 posts)czarjak
(13,137 posts)Rare breed.
twodogsbarking
(15,285 posts)Look him up if interested.
BComplex
(9,517 posts)taught. In fact, it seems more like their "devil" has infiltrated their teachings, their attitudes, and their churches.
LeftInTX
(33,282 posts)Look at the ayatollah. Same shit....
But you know what?
No more empathy from us for them.
Iggo
(49,113 posts)You know, so it can cover for all the other stuff they do on a daily basis.
Warpy
(113,864 posts)and follow him instead of that imperial Christ fella.
They could start making the world a better place instead of a worse one.
cltap
(2 posts)Sin is just a tool they use to control people. It is a fiction based on nothing more than a lack of understanding of human nature and has been used for centuries to control, manipulate, and terrorize people into submission. Fuck all those people.
LetMyPeopleVote
(168,802 posts)3catwoman3
(27,539 posts)I look forward to hearing more from you.
struggle4progress
(124,173 posts)she found a sharp pencil jammed up her nose
It's just that she doesn't care about sharp pencils jammed up other people's noses
Go it.
Oeditpus Rex
(42,513 posts)and justify its existence. Explain the reason(s) you think it must necessarily be.
(Them, not you.)
sinkingfeeling
(56,226 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(57,764 posts)sinkingfeeling
(56,226 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(57,764 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,049 posts)At the end, each and every one says "This is the one and only one correct way to believe." Granted, some are more punishing of non-believers than are others, but they are all wrong.
tornado34jh
(1,500 posts)We all know religion is man-made, but some do it far worse than others, particularly those who want to force their religion on it. It's why wars were fought throughout time over it. That being said, while I sharply disagree with religion in general, last I checked, I don't recall hearing Native Americans forcing their religion onto others, but Christianity (and the Abrahamic religions for that matter) certainly have. To be honest, many of these so called "Christians" are no better than the other religions they criticize about.
DBoon
(24,175 posts)... as long as you hate the right people
Nigrum Cattus
(938 posts)They are all RWRE's - right wing religious extremists
One of them was Timothy McVeigh who murdered 168 people
based on his beliefs.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/documents/mcveigh/
Wednesdays
(20,664 posts)An evangelical leader is warning that conservative Christians are now rejecting the teachings of Jesus as "liberal talking points."
Russell Moore, former top official for the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) who is now the editor-in-chief of Christianity Today, said during an interview aired on NPR's All Things Considered this week that Christianity is in a "crisis" due to the current state of right-wing politics.
Moore has found himself at odds with other evangelical leaders due to his frequent criticism of former President Donald Trump. He resigned his position with the SBC in 2021 following friction over his views on Trump and a sex abuse crisis among Southern Baptist clergy.
In his NPR interview, Moore suggested that Trump had transformed the political landscape in the U.S. to the point where some Christian conservatives are openly denouncing a central doctrine of their religion as being too "weak" and "liberal" for their liking.
spanone
(139,953 posts)Irish_Dem
(73,551 posts)Pure evil.
Solly Mack
(95,540 posts)Joinfortmill
(18,752 posts)summer_in_TX
(3,789 posts)They do not model themselves after Jesus, they create a false portrait of Jesus's teachings, defaming him and blaspheming, and they misuse the name for the purpose of power, money, and control. They fit the prophesy of Jesus who said: Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles? Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers! (Matthew 7:21-23)
They may claim Christianity all they want, but by there fruits you will know them.
Are they spreading joy, peace, love, goodness, kindness, patience, gentleness, faithfulness, self-control?
Or do they (like Trump) spread joylessness / dissatisfaction, strife / discord, animosity / hatred, wickedness / corruption, intolerance / maliciousness, intractability /frustration, harshness / brutality, disloyalty / treachery, and instability / rashness?
valleyrogue
(2,272 posts)There is nothing virtuous about being a sociopath.