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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo Any Democrats Besides Newsom Understand What Magats Are Doing?
Yeah, I get it, they understand that they are rigging the vote for the House.
Do they understand that Magats are using AI to gerrymander the state to make it impossible for Democrats to ever win the state?
Do they understand that Missouri will do the same, that Florida and other states are looking at it?
Of the 11 most gerrymandered states, 10 of them favor Republicans.
Are the other Democratic states that could do what California is doing counting on California to make up the difference? California is polling +22 to do the gerrymander. Hey Newsom, don't just gerrymander for 5 seats if you can get more. Hey Newsom, use AI to help.
This is why the Democratic party is polling so low. We are in a gun fight and we should not be leaving some guns at home.
Do Democrats understand that Magats are working to make voting irrelevant? I don't have to vote for my state Rep ever, the Magat wins 6-1 every election. Some years I have to write in the Democrat. That's what Magats are doing right now.
Do Democratic leaders understand that once autocracy gets entrenched it can't be removed by voting because the system will be rigged, just like it is rigged in Russia.
Finally, do Democrats understand that there are 1.5 million more Democrats registered in Texas than Magats. Texas will have 2 black voting districts, Missouri will have 1. Yeah I know, GOTV and if we lose it's our fault.
Even after they gerrymander they are going to cut back on voting machines in blue districts. How many people will be willing to wait 5 or 6 hours to vote?
Rant off.

Lovie777
(19,936 posts)gab13by13
(29,541 posts)What Texas is doing used to be illegal until the fascist Chief Justice Roberts gutted the Voting Rights Act.
How many people are aware that in order to cut Democratic Reps one new district in the Texas map runs from Austin 500 miles to the north through rural Texas to offset the urban votes. Whoever wins that new district will have to travel 500 miles to speak with his/her constituents.
mvd
(65,714 posts)Do you think the legal challenges will hold up? If it goes to the Supreme Court I certainly dont trust them. Good thing CA did what they did.
Trueblue1968
(18,719 posts)Chasstev365
(6,076 posts)Start planning NOW! Republicans changed the rules and Democrats need to be ruthless!
mopinko
(72,896 posts)dems have a big majority in the state house.
Tribetime
(6,790 posts)Aepps22
(365 posts)In Colorado our constitution prevents mid decade redrawing of districts. Polis can say what he wants but even if we wanted an amendment to the constitution it would go into effect after the midterms
popsdenver
(319 posts)he is pretty much a DINO, and now that he is lame duck, he is definitely leaning more "Corporate" with almost everything.............
BlueKota
(4,525 posts)CousinIT
(11,806 posts)Hornedfrog2000
(824 posts)Abbot should be pushed into a bonfire.
EnergizedLib
(2,705 posts)And onto the ground.
markodochartaigh
(3,737 posts)Republicans are "burning it all down" and are pushing Democratic politicians "into the bonfire", right?
Hornedfrog2000
(824 posts)Yeah, i guess both sides are equal here comrade.
LudwigPastorius
(13,282 posts)ending of Midsommer.
Arazi
(8,301 posts)Since theyre the other Dem governors that get on the news the most, theyre on record.
I presume the other states will similarly re-draw.
Its so fucking stupid and a further erosion of our democracy
All nine of our districts are blue. It is also good to note that we haven't sent a Republican to the House for 31 years.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,553 posts)

ReRe
(11,821 posts)Response to Arazi (Reply #7)
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IbogaProject
(4,850 posts)I read there needs to be two votes in different years in NY.
SSJVegeta
(1,315 posts)Only because people change their minds and change dramatically over not much time.
yardwork
(67,779 posts)People vote for the party they perceive to be winners. Many rural NC counties that used to be reliably Democratic are now deep red, with no Democratic candidates at all.
This is the result of gerrymandering. It destroys democracy.
gab13by13
(29,541 posts)we had a Democratic and a Republican Rep ride in the same car on the 4th of July parade.
Fast forward and I have had to write in Democratic Reps for my district. The Magat Rep, Glenn Thompson is awful, all he does is drink oil and breathe methane and gets fossil fuel money but he gets elected 6-1.
ihaveaquestion
(4,001 posts)
EdmondDantes_
(844 posts)It's hard to predict how that will change over time.
ihaveaquestion
(4,001 posts)SSJVegeta
(1,315 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 21, 2025, 10:17 PM - Edit history (2)
Like food insecurity and the people's basic physical wellbeing.
If Democrats (like Republcians have already done to an extent) can do that to the maximum level possible, these gerrymanders will be the world's biggest dummymanders.
Kingofalldems
(39,785 posts)gab13by13
(29,541 posts)I want Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer to hold a press conference. I want them to encourage every democratically controlled state to gerrymander to the max until our nation returns to a bipartisan commission to draw maps.
I want my party to survive.
Democratic voters understand what's going on, they are protesting and attending town halls and ready to fight fascism. We need marching orders. Our voters want to do more than donate money for campaign ads, the time will come later to do that.
Project 2025 is ahead of schedule, once we become a Dictatorship there is no easy way back.
Kingofalldems
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I am pretty sick of it.
awesomerwb1
(4,831 posts)EdmondDantes_
(844 posts)That just leads to isolated echo chambers.
awesomerwb1
(4,831 posts)of course. But just to complain they don't like the thread using foul language serves no purpose.
Kingofalldems
(39,785 posts)Am I alright now?
awesomerwb1
(4,831 posts)Crunchy Frog
(27,778 posts)Kingofalldems
(39,785 posts)Kingofalldems
(39,785 posts)Okay 'champ'?
awesomerwb1
(4,831 posts)Kingofalldems
(39,785 posts)EYESORE 9001
(28,882 posts)Every fucking day
Kingofalldems
(39,785 posts)"Trump is unstoppable." "Trump is a genius."
Then: "Democrats are weak."
EYESORE 9001
(28,882 posts)Ill start paying closer attention. Despair is like a wet fucking blanket - and so are those who attempt to afflict others with hopelessness.
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murielm99
(32,294 posts)The Democrats are doing something right and you still find a way to be critical. What are you doing, you personally, other than griping on a message board? This is not aimed just at you, but at all the critics here, many of them with low post counts.
DET
(2,169 posts)She is not attacking Democrats. This gets so tiresome.
betsuni
(28,238 posts)while insisting The People need to be given marching orders and told what to do by leadership.
Um.
yardwork
(67,779 posts)Despite winning in court, Democrats lost even more seats in the latest atrocious redistricting. Once the state legislature grabbed the majority they just kept cutting back on democracy.
This is being replicated across the nation because it works. Republicans are stealing our democracy in order to get rich.
NoMoreRepugs
(11,564 posts)or we are looking at decades of Fascist/Totalitarian rule.
Arazi
(8,301 posts)Replacing timid safe-seat Dems with Dem fighters is frowned on here and in establishment Dem circles
awesomerwb1
(4,831 posts)if he doesn't get his way type of person.
Some of his tweets in the past were nasty attacks on Dems. There are much more talented and eloquent young Dems than him out there who are smart enough to understand how to navigate this two party system.
I am not a progressive (a lot of them voted Trump bc their candidate lost), and I'm not "establishment" either. I believe both Jeffries and Schumer aren't capable/strong enough to lead the party in these trying times.
Karasu
(1,915 posts)bagimin
(1,607 posts)Emile
(37,043 posts)Bob_in_VA
(108 posts)Maryland is often listed as a "most gerrymandered" state. Have any of you who repeat that statement ever actually looked at the Congressional District map of Maryland? 8 districts, one along the Eastern Shore; one that comprises the western part of the state, the part between WV and PA and six fairly compact districts between DC and Baltimore. If you have never done that, do it today. Then look at the maps of the ten "most gerrymandered" states run by Republicans. In Texas alone there is a CD that snakes through what looks like a 200 mile long corridor through western and central Texas plus many other districts where it's clear that the dictate that districts should be compact is ignored. While I haven't made a study of it, I'm sure that the other Republican gerrymandered states have similar shaped districts, ones meant to deny Democrats a fair shot at getting elected.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,590 posts)Is this post meant to suggest that Democratic leadership are just too DUMB or too IGNORANT or too NAIVE to "understand" what's going on? Or is the suggestion that Democratic leadership just doesn't care and that they are too stupid to comprehend all the things which are so obvious that even a child could understand?
Michael Moore, needs to be looking over his shoulder about right now. It looks like he's got some competition.
😘🙄😜
betsuni
(28,238 posts)do is Ignore The People, count their bribes in secret Big Money rooms while sipping champagne cocktails and nibbling canapes wearing furs and diamonds with their Republican pals and don't have a clue how government works or what's going on and don't care. Then there's a yelling revolution inspired by strongly worded rallies in the last part of the story. Poorly written romance...
lees1975
(6,751 posts)Illinois is aiming to redistrict District 11, which is +11 Republican, to make it about +5 Democrat by moving some more rural turf into District 20, and taking some heavily Democratic precincts from 6 and 7, where there's actually been some population growth. That will leave us with basically just two districts in the red, rural areas. But, even small metro areas in Illinois run ten points more Democratic than Republican, and the rural population is only about 17% of the total.
MichMan
(15,805 posts)Maybe they don't understand it because it isn't true. I don't know why people keep claiming there are more registered Democrats than Republicans. If it was, how do you explain how Republicans win all the statewide races.
ananda
(32,906 posts)...
MichMan
(15,805 posts)In Texas, there are several main ways for a voter to affiliate with a party: by being accepted to vote in a partys primary election, by taking the required oath at a party precinct convention, or by taking a party oath of affiliation generally (§§162.003, 162.006, 162.007). A voters affiliation with a party automatically expires at the end of each calendar year, which is December 31. (§162.010). A voter who has affiliated themselves with a party is ineligible to participate in the party affairs of another party during the same calendar year. (§§162.012, 162.013).
If a voter has not voted in a party primary or taken an oath of affiliation with a party this calendar year, they have not yet affiliated with any party. If a voter has not yet affiliated with a party, they are able to vote in either partys primary election. However, if a voter votes in the primary of one party, they will only be able to vote in that partys primary runoff election. (§§162.012, 162.013). After being affiliated with a party, a voter is not able to change or cancel their party affiliation until the end of the calendar year. (§162.010).
Do I have to register or affiliate with a party before I vote in the primary?
No. A registered voter is not required to pre-register or take any steps towards affiliating themselves with a party before voting in a partys primary election. (§162.003). Additionally, when a person registers to vote in Texas, they do not register with any kind of party affiliation.
https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/laws/advisory2022-11.shtml
ananda
(32,906 posts)I'm not sure you actually are required to register, though.
MichMan
(15,805 posts)Anyone not registered for either party can choose whatever primary ballot they desire on election day.
Seems like the only "benefit" of registering is to pick which party you want to add you to their mailing list and to solicit donations.
ananda
(32,906 posts)Good
LeftInTX
(33,308 posts)It's part of the "job" requirement.
It's not anywhere on our voter registration record!
I'm a precinct chair and fill out the oath of affiliation when I file.
The GOP is not gonna look at lists of precinct chairs when they draw maps..LOL! Not are the gonna draw into delegate databases..LOL
They looked at general election results. They also put people who don't vote into their districts.
ananda
(32,906 posts)we will never win another important election.
betsuni
(28,238 posts)Do Democrats understand ____ ?
Why didn't Democrats stop ____ ?
Where are the Democrats?
And the point is?
Kid Berwyn
(21,875 posts)If we dont bring them up before the NEXT election, we will lose again. Like clockwork.
JustAnotherGen
(36,756 posts)"White Working Class Men are where it's at" and it's a succinct summation.
betsuni
(28,238 posts)at the end of the day in hard hats as an old-fashioned idealized working class does. Solidarity. You don't count if you take a shower in the morning with your fancy Identity Politics Body Soap.
JustAnotherGen
(36,756 posts)THEY are the one who play Identity Politics.
They are the ones demanding special entitlements because they are working class white men.
They will never ever get onboard with anything that encourages equality for ALL in their socioeconomic group.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,590 posts)No matter where I go online, there's anti-Democrat and anti-Democratic party script or playbook that everyone seems to be copying-and-pasting from.
The point, you asked about... since no solutions or ideas are offered, I can only assume that the point is virtue signaling. The kind of shit that Michael Moore is famous for. Naysayer and soothsayer... always predicting the worst, and if it happens he boasts "told-ya-so!" And, if it doesn't happen, he boasts "thank goodness the Democrats heeded my wise warnings". --- It's always the same repetitive BS that we've come to expect. It's so tiresome.
betsuni
(28,238 posts)But OK to punch down, call Democrats stupid, dummies who have no idea what's going on, no plans, no policies, no message, no integrity, mindless puppets of oligarchs and corporate shills and on and on. The bashers are so very concerned that if they turn their backs for one second, Democrats will turn into Republicans so they must scream insults at them all the time.
Poor Michael Moore. haven't heard much from him. I'm afraid he'll be even angrier at Democrats because his prediction that Harris would win was wrong and he missed out on lots and lots of TV appearances.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,590 posts)* sound like a cracked record. His only political agenda and goals are to monetize HIMSELF and to profit, no matter what damage he causes. He and Nina Turner and that other guy whose name escapes me right now, they're all cut from the same ratty piece of burlap flour sack cloth. Oh! I remember now... Cornel West, that's the one!
betsuni
(28,238 posts)comments I'll always remember, and I can't think of Cornel West without the word milquetoast popping into my head because he said it all the time. If I had an Institute, I'd be embarrassed to have those two as Fellows (Tulsi Gabbard quietly vanishing eventually). At least MM isn't nutty yet.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,590 posts)... but, I guess it keeps the lights on and the water running.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,590 posts)... she certainly turned and betrayed the Democratic party very quickly. I wonder if her loudest fans also feel betrayed by her.
betsuni
(28,238 posts)themselves something.
Like a politician with a long career of getting progressive things done trashed as corrupt establishment Republican lite and a politician with a long career of not getting things done hailed as the progressive gatekeeper who yells "None shall pass" except to the special few like Nina Turner, Cornel West, Tulsi Gabbard.
Now that everybody knows Tulsi's not at all a progressive or Democrat or anything on the Left, she doesn't bother spending a lot of time bashing Democrats -- that only makes potential Democratic voters cynical and apathetic if attacks appear to come from the left.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,553 posts)
rampartd
(2,371 posts)by overgerrymandering. their "safe" majority districts become easier to flip
they are using the results of trump vs harris to make a few assumptions that may not play without dear leader on the ticket..
Clouds Passing
(5,624 posts)JustAnotherGen
(36,756 posts)Definitely at the State Government level which manages and controls elections.
I know for a FACT NJ legislators are very aware and trying to figure out how we can game the system.
And I hate to have to write something like that - but we're all on our own here. We have to engage in mass noncompliance.
We can break them. That I do believe.
Here's a hint - Rep Crockett through Gabriel Arce - a man who has written her scurrilous racist and sexist emails. Two years ago a Demcoratic Rep would not have Named Names of citizens who launch verbal and written threatening attacks at them.
She's just opened another door to demeaning the magapub voter.
Newsom has his thing - it works WONDERFULLY for him.
Crockett has HER thing - and that's the one every single Black Female Democratic Legislator across the country should use.
timms139
(372 posts)are from within the party . It shows from recent polls and that those low polling numbers are Democrats who don't like certain policies. The polls also show tha Republicans shouldn't place their bets on those voters because the poll shows they will not vote for Republicans. This again shows that this low means nothing while the same polls show Democrats with a 5 point advantage in the upcominmg midterms at this point.
CanonRay
(15,546 posts)Then it is time to leave.
intrepidity
(8,406 posts)Many of us simply do not have that as an option at all.
CanonRay
(15,546 posts)I don't want to live under a totalitarian regime
intrepidity
(8,406 posts)usonian
(19,960 posts)If the Extreme Court rules against Gerrymandering, it will stop the red states from doing it, and that has been their modus operandi for ages. Q.E.D.
If the Extreme Court upholds Gerrymandering, then big, big, UUGE blue states like CA get the 🛤️ clear track to do it.
Karasu
(1,915 posts)their redistricting to a vote, which is more than the fascists in Texas can say.
usonian
(19,960 posts)That said, I'm all in.
Kaleva
(39,768 posts)Texas is one of many states where voters dont register their party affiliation
ananda
(32,906 posts)Guess what? Joe Biden was one of them.
I really disliked him for a long, long time.
This led to Dems caving and letting the vote go
uncounted in 2000.
Dems playing nice, going Republican lite... that
has led us to where we are now.
niyad
(126,528 posts)today? The pukes, the media, the reichwing crazies did nothing to orchestrate this? The plans and attacks they have been working on for the last 50 years have nothing to do with the mess? Am I understanding your post correctly? What positions did President Biden take that you disliked so much, and why?
ananda
(32,906 posts)Except for a few who now call themselves progressives.
niyad
(126,528 posts)And your sentences here do not explain anything, nor did you answer my questions about your statements on President Biden. But do keep trying. I am finding this fascinating.
betsuni
(28,238 posts)W_HAMILTON
(9,491 posts)RockRaven
(17,743 posts)Aepps22
(365 posts)I can only speak as a Colorado voter but what Im seeing is that the bad guys leveraged non partisan anti gerrymandering committees in advance of the fight we now have. Most states that could and should be able to counter this nonsense are usually restricted by those committees or their own laws that we supported to get rid of gerrymandering. Anti gerrymandering laws and committees only work when everyone is playing the same game.
intrepidity
(8,406 posts)spanone
(139,955 posts)summer_in_TX
(3,789 posts)He's got a piece in Time.com and there are some great videos / shorts too.
https://time.com/7310875/texass-map-racial-division/
Texass New Map Is Racial Division by Another Name
hildegaard28
(755 posts)Its a good thing AI is wrong most of the time. Only fools fully trust AI.