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Quixote1818

(31,038 posts)
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 08:09 PM Aug 20

Newsom has taken the "Alpha" male crown away from Trump and it's driving MAGA crazy

Trump has always had some strange gut feeling that the person who seems to be the "Alpha" has some sort of strange leadership advantage, especially among small brained people with pre-conventional moral reasoning. His gut feeling is not without some truth at least for half the country. Thinking back, Biden actually was pretty "Alpha" when he told Trump "Will you shut up man?". But when Biden looked old in the debate the tables turned. However, suddenly Newsom with images of him standing all muscular over Malania and other master trolling, has absolutely ripped that out of Trump's tiny hands to the point where MAGA is totally confused and feeling butt hurt and weak. This is how you fight bully's. You out "Alpha" them. It's dumb as shit and totally caveman BS but it needs to be done with someone like Trump. This shit is working and in my opinion it should continue until Trump has a heart attack and drops dead from losing his fake manhood.

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Newsom has taken the "Alpha" male crown away from Trump and it's driving MAGA crazy (Original Post) Quixote1818 Aug 20 OP
Bingo! ScoutHikerDad Aug 20 #1
THIS malaise Aug 20 #2
You are totally correct. Irish_Dem Aug 20 #3
Trump, in his wildest dreams, has never, ever been an "alpha male"... the nelm Aug 20 #4
Especially being born with tiny hands, which zorbasd Aug 20 #10
May I just say that his remark about Palmer was so strange and came out of nowhere and it confirmed my suspicion that he CTyankee Aug 21 #33
And...NOW is the time... Escape Aug 20 #5
They won't JustAnotherGen Aug 21 #53
nobody is listening to us... Escape Aug 21 #55
It's not just Krasnov JustAnotherGen Aug 21 #56
The whole 'alpha-male' 'beta-male' thing is such a huge steaming pile Aristus Aug 20 #6
Great post! :) nt Quixote1818 Aug 20 #8
You sound like a Sigma male padfun Aug 20 #14
Any man who requires others to define what Hey Joe Aug 21 #29
Thank you for your Service. Ligyron Aug 21 #40
You served while Orangeman hid behind "yeah, SURE!" bone spurs. calimary Aug 21 #43
well said Aristus.... democratsruletheday Aug 21 #47
Thank you. Aristus Aug 21 #49
you made great points and you made me laugh - that's a great thing. last image. truly sad that would make somaticexperiencing Aug 20 #7
Rule #1 they teach in self defense class KentuckyWoman Aug 20 #9
At some point - tantrum trump and his mango minions will try to out-do Newsom right back at him and fail miserably. NBachers Aug 20 #11
Right on! ananda Aug 20 #12
Spot On Starbeach Aug 20 #13
"It's dumb as shit and totally caveman BS..." LudwigPastorius Aug 20 #15
I know, but it sure beats other stuff. LeftInTX Aug 21 #32
You are so right! doesn't it feel good to be strongly FOR a candidate instead of constantly beating our brains out CTyankee Aug 21 #38
Yeah but the Maggats like it even less. Ligyron Aug 21 #41
That's the world we live in JustAnotherGen Aug 21 #54
When they go low, we go high. Xolodno Aug 20 #16
It doesn't hurt that Newsom is over 20 years younger and better looking dlk Aug 20 #17
I'm enjoying this. republianmushroom Aug 20 #18
Turns out there's science to back that up. summer_in_TX Aug 20 #19
+1 dalton99a Aug 21 #22
Our Texas Democrats need to do this. They are so much better looking than the Texas GOP! LeftInTX Aug 21 #34
GOP is 90% bullying, 10% messaging. We can do it! LeftInTX Aug 21 #35
The best is when it is mocking or pointing out hypocrisy without sliding over into mean. summer_in_TX Aug 22 #57
Reminds me of repeating everything a sibling says, just to drive them nuts. Nittersing Aug 21 #39
"Aren't we craving exactly what Newsom is providing?" HELL YES!!! calimary Aug 21 #44
Its probably because Hornedfrog2000 Aug 20 #20
Yep. dalton99a Aug 21 #21
Gavin should join 'Truth Social' like President Biden did.... Jack Valentino Aug 21 #23
And he's HAWT! flamingdem Aug 21 #24
dis-imitation is the et tu Aug 21 #30
I don't think Gavin is hot, (now Obama was), but this is a form of bullying. LeftInTX Aug 21 #36
Completely agree. Paladin Aug 21 #25
Spot on CanonRay Aug 21 #26
Too much hair. ConstanceCee Aug 21 #27
Seriously? Ligyron Aug 21 #42
It's so satisfying watching Donny get cucked, owned, and exposed for the fat dumb fuck he is Blue Owl Aug 21 #28
Our new dog is more alpha than the Orange Traitor Wicked Blue Aug 21 #31
That would be wonderful outcome....nt Figarosmom Aug 21 #37
Newsom should challenge Trump to some activities rickford66 Aug 21 #45
"...it should continue MorbidButterflyTat Aug 21 #46
I don't think he has "taken the Alpha male crown"; he's made them confront their delusions about Trump muriel_volestrangler Aug 21 #48
Raw emotion is a powerful magnet SSJVegeta Aug 21 #50
Boo hoo and Faux pas Aug 21 #51
Truth UpInArms Aug 21 #52

ScoutHikerDad

(71 posts)
1. Bingo!
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 08:17 PM
Aug 20

All bullies run and hide when they are unexpectedly clocked in the face by someone who refuses to lay down. Newsom understands that this is the only way to fight MAGATs moving forward: with a taste of their own medicine.

malaise

(288,337 posts)
2. THIS
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 08:27 PM
Aug 20

but it needs to be done with someone like Trump. This shit is working

———-
Ridicule the fool and his cheerleaders😀👍

Irish_Dem

(73,577 posts)
3. You are totally correct.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 08:41 PM
Aug 20

The only way to win is to get some BDE front and center.

And also prevent the the election interference and
Cheating.

the nelm

(147 posts)
4. Trump, in his wildest dreams, has never, ever been an "alpha male"...
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 09:09 PM
Aug 20

of any sorts, though I'm sure that how he sees himself. This is the guy who's always the loudest in the room and never shuts his yap, but when it comes to doing the actual hard or dirty work gets one of his minions to do the deed.

zorbasd

(463 posts)
10. Especially being born with tiny hands, which
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 09:38 PM
Aug 20

translates to a micropenis mushroom, according to Stormy. And being so envious of Arnold Palmer's member.

CTyankee

(66,926 posts)
33. May I just say that his remark about Palmer was so strange and came out of nowhere and it confirmed my suspicion that he
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 12:04 PM
Aug 21

is jackshit nuts.

I'd better stop here or I'll be on a rant all afternoon and I'd like a nice lunch now...

Escape

(275 posts)
5. And...NOW is the time...
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 09:19 PM
Aug 20

for REAL media reps to start getting in Trump's face. They need to yell at him, insult him, call him a liar. They need to do their job!

Bully's are weak. They are pathetic and desperate and insecure and fake. Trump's shtick in attacking and insulting the media reps is SO predictable.

WHEN is someone gonna finally stand up to the sick motherfucker and attack him back....relentlessly! GET THE LAST WORD!!!!

Will they lose their job? Hell yes. And they will gain all the decency, fairness and reward the world has to offer..from that day on.

It's time! It's way past time!

Escape

(275 posts)
55. nobody is listening to us...
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 08:21 PM
Aug 21

The people who are privileged enough to be in the room with the sick asshole HAVE TO SPEAK FOR US!

They are THERE...in front of him. They need to speak the truth...LOUDLY and REPEATEDLY and INCESSANTLY and BRAVELY!

Our muddled voices are an important backdrop, but THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CAN SPEAK DIRECTLY TO HIM IN PERSON!

Our job is to support THEM when they finally quit cowering at his intimidation.

JustAnotherGen

(36,756 posts)
56. It's not just Krasnov
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 08:30 PM
Aug 21

The lie is bigger than that. It's their entire electorate.

This is why we have to support Governors and reps with big mouths.

They suck the air out of the room. Magapubs deflate with out attention -it's top down.

Aristus

(70,692 posts)
6. The whole 'alpha-male' 'beta-male' thing is such a huge steaming pile
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 09:23 PM
Aug 20

of smelly horseshit.

I’m a go-along-to-get-along kind of guy. I don’t like violence or confrontations. I cry during sentimental songs and tv shows. I oppose the death penalty, and own no guns.

But I was also a tank crewman in the Army, attaining the rank of Sergeant. I’m a Gulf War veteran, and qualified ‘Expert’ on the M-16 rifle, the Beretta 9mm pistol, and helped my tank crew shoot a superior score on live-fire qualification.

I earn a six-figure salary, have a marriage entering its twenty-seventh year, have three stepchildren and ten grandchildren.

And I’m a bleeding-heart liberal until I DIE, motherfuckers!


Hey Joe

(195 posts)
29. Any man who requires others to define what
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 11:40 AM
Aug 21

they are in order to feel like a “man”, is pathetic .
It’s such a shame that so many men these days, young and old, feel like they need the assurance of others that they are manly in order to feel thusly.
Glad I was raised in a time when, by having values and convictions, and doing what was right by and for others, I had belief in myself .
Of course, that was way before social media.

Ligyron

(7,978 posts)
40. Thank you for your Service.
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 02:30 PM
Aug 21

Those darn Germans always won the tank shoot outs at Graff when I was over there. Now that was a place you didn’t mind being in the field. Beautiful country, all kinds of deer, wild boar and other critters. Picked blueberries for breakfast. Used to do the fire control for time on target artillery from way up on Bliedorn Tower, the highest point there and then run across the dirt road to watch the fireworks down in the impact area. And no bad guys were shooting back at us.

calimary

(87,552 posts)
43. You served while Orangeman hid behind "yeah, SURE!" bone spurs.
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 04:18 PM
Aug 21

That alone puts you WAY ahead of him (although that’s not the only thing, by far).

7. you made great points and you made me laugh - that's a great thing. last image. truly sad that would make
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 09:24 PM
Aug 20

someone (me) laugh, but laughter is laughter. it enjoys the truth. and I'm pretty sure there will be lots of relieved and even happy people that day. what a way to live. sad for him.

KentuckyWoman

(7,254 posts)
9. Rule #1 they teach in self defense class
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 09:29 PM
Aug 20

Be strong, loud and forceful. Make a lot of noise and be confrontational. Bullies want an easy mark. Even with non-violence, you have to stand up to them - in their face.

NBachers

(18,841 posts)
11. At some point - tantrum trump and his mango minions will try to out-do Newsom right back at him and fail miserably.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 09:41 PM
Aug 20

They'll try to capture some of the Newmentum with a lame-ass and weak attempt at duplicating his success. It will be so pathetically stupid that they'll end up with shit on their faces, right where it belongs..

LudwigPastorius

(13,282 posts)
15. "It's dumb as shit and totally caveman BS..."
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 10:09 PM
Aug 20

You've got that right.

I don't want to live in a society where dick waving social media memes are what decides the presidential election.

LeftInTX

(33,308 posts)
32. I know, but it sure beats other stuff.
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 12:03 PM
Aug 21

It beats:
Crying about Trump
Reading about Trump
Worrying about Trump
Democratic infighting about Trump

It's a diversion like watching silly youtube videos.

CTyankee

(66,926 posts)
38. You are so right! doesn't it feel good to be strongly FOR a candidate instead of constantly beating our brains out
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 12:22 PM
Aug 21

over slobby?

Xolodno

(7,130 posts)
16. When they go low, we go high.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 10:23 PM
Aug 20

That's what they have been counting on right from the beginning. MAGA has warped thinking, they think we are being elitist by saying that, but think they themselves are superior for hurling insults. Now we have those who are imitating them and showing them exactly for who and what they are. They are fuming. We're not supposed to be fighting like them....in thier minds. And its embarassing them.

summer_in_TX

(3,789 posts)
19. Turns out there's science to back that up.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 10:56 PM
Aug 20
Bully the Bully: The Psychology of What Gavin Newsom Is Getting Right

"Turns out, when faced with a bully, ignoring them and “taking the high road” isn’t just ineffective; it’s psychologically counterproductive."

Governor Gavin Newsom figured this out. While Democrats spent years wringing their hands about “norms” and “dignity,” Newsom did something radical: he started fighting fire with fire. He’s trolling Trump with memes, calling his officials “fascist cucks,” and posting TikToks that mock the president with Nickelback songs. The pearl-clutchers are horrified. The psychologists? They’re fascinated.

Research on bullying reveals an uncomfortable truth that contradicts decades of feel-good advice. Studies of children aged 11–12 found that those who “returned hostility with hostility appeared to be the most mature.” Boys who stood up to bullies were “judged more socially competent by their teachers,” while girls who fought back were “more popular and more admired by teachers and peers”.


The tactic is called "mirroring" – or adopting the opponent's style and pattern of communication. That disrupts their advantage, throwing them off balance.

The aggressiveness Newsom shows in pushing back feels definitely more authentic than the measured political responses more typical of Democrats. "People trust fighters more than diplomats when they feel under attack".

Newsom isn’t just trolling for attention; he’s using scientifically validated psychological principles to challenge authoritarian behavior. He’s discovered that sometimes the most effective way to protect democratic norms isn’t to model them perfectly, but to prevent their opponents from trampling them completely.



This explains so much, doesn't it? Including why Dems are sinking in the polls in spite of the authoritarian over-reach of DJT.

Aren't we craving exactly what Newsom is providing?

LeftInTX

(33,308 posts)
34. Our Texas Democrats need to do this. They are so much better looking than the Texas GOP!
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 12:05 PM
Aug 21

Heck one used to be a body builder..LOL
One still is!

summer_in_TX

(3,789 posts)
57. The best is when it is mocking or pointing out hypocrisy without sliding over into mean.
Fri Aug 22, 2025, 12:35 AM
Aug 22

But mock, rinse, repeat to your hearts' content. In fact repeating is essential (not the exact same, but the theme.) We Dems tend to not hone in on a strategy that works and keep at it.

calimary

(87,552 posts)
44. "Aren't we craving exactly what Newsom is providing?" HELL YES!!!
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 04:39 PM
Aug 21

I’ve seen enough (quite awhile ago, actually). He’s earned my vote for anything he runs for that I can vote for.

Jack Valentino

(3,120 posts)
23. Gavin should join 'Truth Social' like President Biden did....
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 01:07 AM
Aug 21

even though he'd probably be banned in the first 24 hours---

his social media team could make a ton of posts before that,
if they planned it out beforehand....

Diss "small hands" in his own neighborhood!




flamingdem

(40,647 posts)
24. And he's HAWT!
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 02:21 AM
Aug 21

I love the AI generated muscled out Gavin.

At first it turned me off then I realized what a sarcastic take on "alpha" male magamen this is.

Kudos to the creatives and to Gavin!

LeftInTX

(33,308 posts)
36. I don't think Gavin is hot, (now Obama was), but this is a form of bullying.
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 12:12 PM
Aug 21

Trump does it too with those "Trump God memes", so we can do it too. Trump doesn't look hot, but they make him look like super hero. We can do it too.

Paladin

(31,472 posts)
25. Completely agree.
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 08:53 AM
Aug 21

No retreat and no surrender, Gavin Newsom. Leave trump behind, groveling in the dirt.

Ligyron

(7,978 posts)
42. Seriously?
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 02:45 PM
Aug 21

He outdoes Trump’s thin ass bird nest of a combover.

His hair is looking thick, healthy and natural. Like the rest of him.

It can’t happen now, of course, but I would love to have seen a debate between Trump and Newson. Gavin would wipe the floor with him.

Blue Owl

(57,157 posts)
28. It's so satisfying watching Donny get cucked, owned, and exposed for the fat dumb fuck he is
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 10:57 AM
Aug 21

Wicked Blue

(8,197 posts)
31. Our new dog is more alpha than the Orange Traitor
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 11:58 AM
Aug 21

and if they ever met, I hope Maxie would raise his leg and pee on those bloated ankles.

MorbidButterflyTat

(3,553 posts)
46. "...it should continue
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 04:50 PM
Aug 21

until (rump) has a heart attack and drops dead from losing his fake manhood."

Oh, please please please please please!!

muriel_volestrangler

(104,449 posts)
48. I don't think he has "taken the Alpha male crown"; he's made them confront their delusions about Trump
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 06:17 PM
Aug 21

I don't think there will be any MAGAs thinking "wow, Newsom is an Alpha male", because they're programmed to not like him, or even despise him; but this is making them think how ridiculous the years of "Trump is an Alpha" that they've believed are, just because of idiotic all caps tweets and stupid pictures of a buffed-up Trump.

UpInArms

(53,312 posts)
52. Truth
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 07:19 PM
Aug 21

Never let a bully win …
Kick back harder …

When they’re a 12 … be a 14

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