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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, Trump wants to take over D.C. and at least to me, it seems obvious why.
It's obvious he wants to increase and control the perimeter around the White House. Why? Because of the January 6th Insurrection, he knows how vulnerable it is to a massive assault.
And before you say, oh the Democrats would never be involved with a January 6th take over of a public building, my response: I don't think he's worried about the Democrats. I think he's worried about his MAGAs feeling betrayed by him on so many levels. And the Epstein files may set them off.
38% approval rating, and only 47% of Republicans would vote for him again if it turns out that he is in Epstein's pedo file as a customer or an accomplice.
He has a lot to be concerned about.

ProudMNDemocrat
(20,254 posts)Seal off D.C. and believe one is safe?
Hardly.
Trueblue Texan
(3,782 posts)He's always hovered around 40%. His base is going to do what they always do if they find out the allegations of sex crimes against young girls are valid. They are going to rationalize the behavior and give some justification why even a pedophile is preferable to a Dem. There is no bottom to the depravity they will accept from this man and his party.
Diamond_Dog
(38,548 posts)His supporters only believe what they want to believe. And half of Congress is too cowardly to stand up to him and stop all this depravity.
Wounded Bear
(63,017 posts)Baitball Blogger
(50,953 posts)Through thick or thin they will hang together. They would support a pedophile, while we couldn't even stay firm when a reliable and dependable Democratic president had one bad night.
Cosmocat
(15,285 posts)not that I actually like it, its just the simple truth.
33taw
(3,240 posts)rubbersole
(10,582 posts)Cosmocat
(15,285 posts)Once there is an actual race and they coalesce around whatever bullshit they spew about Hill/Joe/Kamala they will very quickly get back his fold because their entire existence is built around their glorious battle against the LIBERALS!
And, yes, they won't care one bit if there is actual video of him doing the deed with U18s.
IronLionZion
(49,933 posts)Many of them know he's guilty but are OK with it. They come up with the most absurd excuses for the inexcusable.
NJCher
(41,499 posts)image search under this term and look at the graphs:
trump's approval rating over time graph
mcar
(45,361 posts)My son and his family live there. We went to the Mall twice to go to museums. The area around the White House, blocks of it, is surrounded by 8 ft fencing. I've never seen anything like it.
misanthrope
(9,180 posts)In newsreels from authoritarian regimes.
mcar
(45,361 posts)TSF is truly trashing the place.
misanthrope
(9,180 posts)What a despicable human being he is.
SSJVegeta
(1,531 posts)Interesting!! 🤔
Firestorm49
(4,449 posts)Martin Eden
(14,888 posts)The other part is his giant ego and sense of entitlement. HE is king, and DC is HIS realm. He can pave over the Rose Garden, cover the Oval Office with tacky gold, and replace the East Wing with a royal ballroom. Anything in DC that offends him is a personal affront. He is entitled to change it.
rurallib
(64,165 posts)take over of cities in his strategy to turn the country into a dictatorship.
Which one next? My guess is Chicago.
WiVoter
(1,475 posts)Thats what it is. Hes testing the waters for that.
MiHale
(12,170 posts)True Americans revolting against an extreme Fascist government.
slightlv
(6,614 posts)"strange bedfellows" types of action. Different reasons, same means to accomplish an end... to HIM and his rogue dictatorship.
DFW
(58,971 posts)But the fact is that Jan. 6, 2021 was an assault on the Capitol, which has a massive area around it, and it was very poorly defended (since nothing like Jan. 6 had ever happened, no one counted on it happening then. The White house has a far smaller perimeter, and has a massive defense system (obviously not visible to the casual visitor) in place. The team defending the White House is not the same as the Capitol Police. They will not hesitate to shoot uninvited intruders, no matter their number. It's a different job description.
I think Trump wants to take over D.C. simply in order to prevent embarrassing anti-Trump demonstrations, which will probably be quite plentiful the longer he hangs around. We shouldn't forget that his priorities and worries differ vastly from ours. His lawyers and Pam Bondi may be able to prevent him from seeing jail time, but they can't prevent the world press from reporting that a quarter million Americans turned out to protest their own head of state. It's hard for us to imagine that someone would worry more about embarrassment and bad PR than incarceration, but I think that is the mentality we are looking at.
Baitball Blogger
(50,953 posts)It is plausible that those who were crazy enough to attack the Capitol would just as easily repeat the strategy, but target the White House. With Drones, high walls are no longer a deterrent.
DFW
(58,971 posts)Considering what he did to the Rose Garden, can anyone count it out?
misanthrope
(9,180 posts)Where he replied to reporters' questions with the word "missiles" and made a motion like a projectile firing from the roof of the structure. Considering what is observable about his behavior, statements and what comes to pass, I wonder what "missiles" signifies. Is that indicative of a deep-seated desire? Does he want a mini-Iron Dome around his palace?
Every time he goes into a "tariff negotiation," they see someone who doesn't have the support of his own people.
Yet this action makes it even more obvious he is losing power and influence.
jonstl08
(501 posts)Seems he is consolidating a base of operations for when he declares martial law for the nation and the GOP will go along with it.
Baitball Blogger
(50,953 posts)At first I thought he was going to build a rooftop patio, but one that can transform into a bird's nest for gunners.
58Sunliner
(6,100 posts)slightlv
(6,614 posts)twodogsbarking
(15,926 posts)IzzaNuDay
(1,140 posts)But he has his eyes on DC: population predominantly Black, with a Black mayor. He doesnt hide his resentment of Black folks. He was probably thrilled to have beaten out Kamala
misanthrope
(9,180 posts)New York City would be a massive undertaking due to the sheer numbers of residents there, how long-lasting and deep the hatred of Trump is there, plus the local culture that doesn't shy away from bristling and confrontation.
Baltimore would be easier to control for size reasons. And he named them when reeling off the list at the podium.
I also think Chicago is a prime candidate for numerous reasons. They are a historic Democratic stronghold. Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker has been effective at jabbing Trump and is helping stymie Trump's plans for Texas redistricting. Plus, Chicago is considered the home base of the Obamas. I think for all those reasons, it makes the Windy City a likely choice.
twodogsbarking
(15,926 posts)and the Obama living in his brain.
stillcool
(34,407 posts)rubbersole
(10,582 posts)Right up the 190 in Bethesda, MD.
stillcool
(34,407 posts)Ping Tung
(3,686 posts)writerJT
(467 posts)everything he does like this is simply to distract from the Epstein story.
Im not saying youre wrong, and Im not saying that even if this is just for distraction that its not dangerous. Im just commenting on what I think his true motive is. But who knows? Hes a psycho.
live love laugh
(15,913 posts)slightlv
(6,614 posts)we should charge him rent comparable to a gated community in the swankiest of districts!
synni
(550 posts)Now he's coming for the African-Americans.
We all know how this story will end....
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58Sunliner
(6,100 posts)I can only hope it backfires, literally.
Raven123
(7,047 posts)Also, he is scared because his policies are not popular. Expanding the moat around the place formerly respected as the White House
TheRickles
(2,958 posts)Ligyron
(7,979 posts)A little surprised it hasnt been taken down or maybe it was a screen capture.
The bit with the MAGA family on their porch as a flood of water hits them from supposedly non existent global warming was a highlight.
pandr32
(13,446 posts)a gaudy palace for his personal use, isn't helping his support, either.
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gfarber
(101 posts)Trump's planning a D.C. campaign,
To tighten the White House domain.
Not Dems, but his base,
Could turn on his face,
If Epstein's files show him profane.
Old Trump wants to wall off D.C.,
Not from libs, but his own MAGA spree.
If the Epstein file drops,
Watch support do backflops
Hell be hiding behind a shrub tree!
Hornedfrog2000
(866 posts)Moron out of the whitehouse. Just as the Ukrainians did to their illigititmate, russian asset of a president.
Warpy
(113,930 posts)probably because somebody on the GOP cocktail circuit got offended because a homeless guy was seen sleeping in a good neighborhood. Horrors!
So of course there will be lawsuits and he will lose them but in rhe meantime, US citizens who are the victims of Republican and "fiscal conservative" policies over the last 56 years will be made even more miserable.
Of course, the one I'm waiting for is when he decides to turn DC into a "white" city and jacks up property taxes on the east side of town to remove the "criminal element," ie anyone with dark skin.
hildegaard28
(780 posts)Also a trial run for taking over other cities. He said theres other cities he wants to do this in.