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Just Do It!
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Metaphorical
(2,522 posts)Texas is, with the encouragement of Trump, making no bones about gerrymandering, and with it, I fully expect to see other states on both sides of the divide do the same. California, New York, New Jersey, Illinois and Massachusetts (with the possibility that Washington and Oregon could go that direction though they'd have to pass other laws first) could very well follow suit. Florida and Texas are already gerrymandered about as far as they can, Ohio and Missouri are close. The Supreme Court really can't rule on this, because if it ruled what California is doing is illegal, it means Texas can't gerrymander either.
Each step is making it just that much clearer that we really can't go back. The Trump administration is openly ignoring the courts now, knowing that it has the Supreme Court effectively captured, and it is becoming increasingly obvious that they will do everything they can to lock in their control by any means possible.
ITAL
(1,203 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 31, 2025, 08:24 PM - Edit history (1)
Having a bipartisan redistricting commission is in the state constitution here. I know Newsom and co are looking at ways to get around that, but it's not gonna be easy.
We have a super majority
Fuck any court that tries to stop it
People need to realize we are at war.
ITAL
(1,203 posts)The State Supreme Court, even with a 6/1 liberal advantage would likely strike it down. I mean the people literally voted for that commission a few years ago by proposition.
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ITAL
(1,203 posts)Placed on the general election ballot in November of a typical election year...or November 2026 which would be too late. We could possibly get it on the ballot by the primary elections if they get cracking.
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FHRRK
(1,209 posts)While Repukes are shitting on the Constitution is a sure way to lose.
Again, Fuck That!
Ignoring what people actually voted for is not exactly what we want to be doing. Just have to hope a new ballot initiative can be done in time...AND hope that it passes.
msongs
(72,557 posts)jmowreader
(52,684 posts)Mass has nine congressional districts and they are all represented by Democrats.
fujiyamasan
(724 posts)Thats my guess anyway. The redistrcting commission was passed by voters in 2008.
Bluesaph
(983 posts)Prop 8 drove millions of hatevangelicals to the polls.
If the bipartisan commission came up for a recall now it would pass!
fujiyamasan
(724 posts)2008 was weird in that sense in this state. Obama won with 61%, but prop hate still won.
The referendum would probably pass, but it depends on how its sold to the public.
Bluesaph
(983 posts)Hes taking the fight on and killing it with all his interviews. I wish hed go on Joe Rogan!
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,679 posts)...and with the help of Excel some math...
Taking out the states (and DC) that only have one Representative, then looking at the percentage each party got in the 2024 House elections v. the % of House seats that each party won, Florida, Texas, Ohio, and Missouri are less gerrymandered than California, New Jersey, Illinois, Massachusetts, Oregon, and Washington. New York is actually the state that is currently closest to the vote count matching the House seats (~58% Dem House seats and ~57% Dem votes for House seats).
The best bet for picking up a large number of seats, given California's constitutional amendment on reapportionment, is New York, as it's the least gerrymandered, and has 11 Republican seats right now.
Initech
(106,438 posts)We can't fight them with strongly worded letters. I'm tired of seeing Fox and MAGA take everything from us and destroying our freedoms.
LetMyPeopleVote
(170,559 posts)Why complain about gerrymandering on the same afternoon that JD Vance's own party advanced a closely watched gerrymandering scheme at his boss behest?
As GOP's radical Texas map is unveiled, Vance picks odd time to whine about gerrymandering.
— [The Great War & Modern Memory] (@ps9714.bsky.social) 2025-07-31T14:36:23.755Z
Why complain about gerrymandering on the same afternoon that JD Vance's own party advanced a closely watched gerrymandering scheme at his bossâ behest?
By @stevebenen.com
Link to tweet
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/gops-radical-texas-map-unveiled-vance-picks-odd-time-whine-gerrymander-rcna222170
Texas Republicans released a proposed new congressional map Wednesday that would give the GOP a path to pick up five seats in next years midterm elections. The proposal, which follows President Donald Trumps public pressing for a new map in the state, would shift district lines in ways that would target current Democratic members of Congress in districts in and around Austin, Dallas and Houston, as well as two already endangered Democrats representing South Texas districts that Trump carried last year.
....A couple of hours before Texas Republicans unveiled their draft map, JD Vance took the opportunity to weigh in on the debate by, oddly enough, complaining about gerrymandering.
The gerrymander in California is outrageous, the vice president wrote via social media. Of their 52 congressional districts, 9 of them are Republican. That means 17 percent of their delegation is Republican when Republicans regularly win 40 percent of the vote in that state. How can this possibly be allowed?
So, a few things.
First, Californias map really isnt that bad, as gerrymanders go, but in light of the Texas Republicans scheme, it might soon become a lot more slanted.
Second, if Vance is looking for some truly outrageous gerrymandering, Id direct his attention to the Republican-drawn maps in states such as North Carolina, Wisconsin and Vances adopted home state of Ohio.
Third, while its certainly true that Democrats in blue states have drawn some gerrymandered maps there are no angels here it was congressional Democrats who proposed doing away with partisan gerrymandering altogether in a democracy-reform package unveiled in 2021. Republicans rejected it even though it wouldve created a level playing field for both parties. (If readers were curious, Vance didnt vote on the bill: It was unveiled four years ago, and the vice presidents career in elected office only began two-and-a-half years ago.)
How can this possibly be allowed? the vice president asked, referring to partisan district lines. The answer is, Because your party has blocked reform efforts.
dweller
(27,227 posts)Glad to see NC being used as a prime example here
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SickOfTheOnePct
(8,679 posts)...and percentage of votes, North Carolina is barely gerrymandered, and it actually works to the Democrats' favor.
vanlassie
(6,148 posts)when I read Vances How can this possibly be allowed whine.
He has to be the DUMBEST of the dumb. That must be why Newsom called him dum-dum!
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Xolodno
(7,183 posts)...unlike many states, we like to play fair.
applegrove
(128,448 posts)followed the rules in WWII. You know who did not follow the rules? The French Resistance.