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vanessa_ca

(570 posts)
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 05:03 PM Jul 31

If Israelis and Jews Don't Act Now, We're Complicit: Here's How to Stop Gaza's Starvation

If Israelis and Jews Don't Act Now, We're Complicit: Here's How to Stop Gaza's Starvation
We Israelis and Jews abroad are all responsible for what our government is doing to Palestinians in Gaza. That is why we must demand the only effective measure left, that which the Netanyahu government cannot ignore


Protesters in Tel Aviv against the Gaza war

by Rabbi Arik Ascherman
Jul 30, 2025 7:23 pm IDT

-snip-

All people of conscience must say clearly and publicly that they oppose causing more suffering and death for Gazan children and other non-combatants. Jewish tradition teaches that there is a red line on what is permitted even when it comes self-defense: Tractate Sanhedrin forbids us from killing innocent people, even if it is to save our own lives.

-snip-

I've always wondered what, historically, has held people back from opposing their government's evil actions. After the fact, they may say they didn't know the extent of the problem, or they had always, albeit silently, been opposed. Jewish tradition teaches us that Noah was furious with God when he emerged from his ark after the flood and saw the death and destruction. God rebuked him saying, "For 60 years you built the ark and didn't utter a word of protest. Now you are angry?"

-snip-

That is why we must demand the only effective measures left, those which our government cannot ignore. We must call for a general strike of the entire Israeli economy led by the Histadrut. There can be no business as usual while we are causing people to starve in Gaza. The Histadrut needs to take the lead but there is no time to wait. Every shopkeeper and every small or large business owner must shutter their businesses. The heads of five universities have now declared their opposition, and they should act on it by striking and closing their gates. Every non-essential service that can be shut down, must be shut down.

-snip-

What will you tell your children and grandchildren when we emerge from the ark and see what we have wrought? What will you say to God when you reach the heavenly court? What will you say to yourself?

Rabbi Arik Ascherman led Rabbis For Human Rights for 21 years, and is co-founder of an interfaith human rights organization, Haqel-Jews and Arabs in Defense of Human Rights.

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2025-07-30/ty-article-opinion/.premium/if-israelis-and-jews-dont-act-now-were-complicit-heres-how-to-stop-gazas-starvation/00000198-5658-d669-a99d-7effd80a0000
https://archive.li/hed3n#selection-1135.0-1135.413 for non-subscribers


Solidarity with the Israeli Left. Period. Full Stop. This is no time to waste time with rightwing Likudniks and their complicity for Greater Israel or Christian Zionists with their warped messianic fantasies.

Tzedek, tsedek tirdof! (Justice, justice thou shalt pursue!)

Rabbi Ascherman advises "Those of you abroad must tell the Jewish Agency, your Jewish Federations that you are putting your planned contributions in an escrow fund. That you want to support Israel, but not until Israel stops starving children to death."
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If Israelis and Jews Don't Act Now, We're Complicit: Here's How to Stop Gaza's Starvation (Original Post) vanessa_ca Jul 31 OP
Two Israeli human rights organizations recently denounced their government iemanja Jul 31 #1
Thanks. I'm making calls and writing emails. Bread and Circuses Jul 31 #2
Thank you! I've been writing so many, my fingers are numb vanessa_ca Jul 31 #3
Former Green Beret on horrors of food distribution womanofthehills Aug 1 #34
K&R red dog 1 Jul 31 #4
Why is the headline singling out Jews, and not everybody? I don't care who says it, to lostincalifornia Jul 31 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 31 #6
Not to mention Egypt's border with Gaza Danmel Jul 31 #8
Egypt absolutely should stop its security coordination with Israel/US and allow material into Gaza. David__77 Aug 1 #24
Exactly. Seems other neighboring countries are okay with Gaza being a launch Nixie Aug 1 #25
The Rabbi is speaking to Jewish people about Jewish faith and Jewish tradition and what our faith Nanjeanne Jul 31 #7
Good question. sheshe2 Jul 31 #14
The OP is reporting a Rabbi's effort to encourage Israelis and Jews to help stop genocide thought crime Jul 31 #19
I don't care who he is, calling all Jews as complicit is bullshit lostincalifornia Aug 1 #21
perhaps because "everybody" isn't genocidal mike_c Aug 1 #31
Ya, okay, a BIT LATE, donchya think? Exp Jul 31 #9
they've pissed away any goodwill they ever had Skittles Jul 31 #11
Does he mention the hostages? Mosby Jul 31 #10
He did. In the second paragraph. Chellee Jul 31 #12
It is shameful that some use scripture to justify illegal occupation or war crimes. David__77 Aug 1 #22
Looks like the agency giving out food is very incompetent womanofthehills Aug 1 #29
Tony Aguilar was fired for cause by UG Solutions. Mosby Aug 1 #32
Corrupt Gaza Humanitarian Foundation replaces UN womanofthehills Aug 1 #33
Why are jews as a whole responsible Samael13 Jul 31 #13
The Rabbi is speaking TO Jewish people about Jewish teachings. It has nothing to do with singling out Nanjeanne Jul 31 #15
Because unfortunately it gives the reading of blaming Jewish people who aren't Israeli EdmondDantes_ Jul 31 #16
Not really. If you read what he says he is speaking to Jews about their duty based on their religion. Nanjeanne Jul 31 #17
But that's my point. Not all Jews are religious EdmondDantes_ Jul 31 #18
Yes, it sounds like he's doing his job. thought crime Jul 31 #20
The West has been comp,icit for decades malaise Aug 1 #23
The complicity has been going on for a over half a century. (ha, Malaise right on before me) Tetrachloride Aug 1 #26
The truth malaise Aug 1 #27
Israelis yes, Jews no SocialDemocrat61 Aug 1 #28
Thanks for a thoughtful reply vanessa_ca Aug 1 #30
You're welcome SocialDemocrat61 Aug 1 #35
I see your point- vanessa_ca Aug 1 #36

iemanja

(56,824 posts)
1. Two Israeli human rights organizations recently denounced their government
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 05:26 PM
Jul 31

for engaging in genocide. https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220526450

it's great to see people of conscience make their views known.

vanessa_ca

(570 posts)
3. Thank you! I've been writing so many, my fingers are numb
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 06:34 PM
Jul 31

So grateful to be among like-minded spirits.

womanofthehills

(10,408 posts)
34. Former Green Beret on horrors of food distribution
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 12:32 PM
Aug 1

I watched a former Green Beret who has done 9 combat tours shake and break down today over what he saw being done to human beings in Gaza. The horror must end and everyone who was complicit must be held to account. Our collective humanity is at stake.


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lostincalifornia

(4,567 posts)
5. Why is the headline singling out Jews, and not everybody? I don't care who says it, to
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 07:14 PM
Jul 31

personally identify Jews as complicit is bullshit.




Response to lostincalifornia (Reply #5)

Danmel

(5,601 posts)
8. Not to mention Egypt's border with Gaza
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 07:22 PM
Jul 31

Why no demands for them to open their borders and get aid through?
Oh, and why don't they just release the hostages who might still be clinging to life after being starved, raped and beaten?

David__77

(24,478 posts)
24. Egypt absolutely should stop its security coordination with Israel/US and allow material into Gaza.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 10:30 AM
Aug 1

Egyptians are in prison for advocating for this.

Nixie

(17,850 posts)
25. Exactly. Seems other neighboring countries are okay with Gaza being a launch
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 10:41 AM
Aug 1

pad to attack Israel whatever the consequences, but Israel gets all the blame for their complicity. Some of those countries are rich as hell and harboring Hamas.

Nanjeanne

(6,420 posts)
7. The Rabbi is speaking to Jewish people about Jewish faith and Jewish tradition and what our faith
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 07:20 PM
Jul 31

teaches us about killing of innocents.

sheshe2

(94,065 posts)
14. Good question.
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 09:20 PM
Jul 31

I will wait right here and see if you get a response from the OP for singling out Jews, though I doubt you will get an answer.

thought crime

(812 posts)
19. The OP is reporting a Rabbi's effort to encourage Israelis and Jews to help stop genocide
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 11:44 PM
Jul 31

There are many Israelis and Jews who do not support Netanyahu or a policy of genocide or collective punishment, and are working actively against it. These people should be "singled out" - for praise. The article is from Haaretz.

lostincalifornia

(4,567 posts)
21. I don't care who he is, calling all Jews as complicit is bullshit
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 08:40 AM
Aug 1

it doesn't matter how he identifies either, because he is is providing an excuse for anti-Jewish bigotry.

No surprise that some would have no problem with this.

and so what if if he is a rabbi, Meir Kahane was a rabbi and a racist piece of garbage, Norman finkelstein is a vile holocaust piece of garbage minimizer.

No surprise at all, but quite illuminating.

No different than those who were enthralled with Reverend Wright collecting blaming of all white people for the ills of the world.

Oh, he is a rabbi, oh he is a Jew, so it is OK to collectively blame ALL Jews for complicity if they don’t do something.






Mosby

(19,069 posts)
10. Does he mention the hostages?
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 07:38 PM
Jul 31

Has the International Red Cross visited them lately to make sure they are receiving food and basic care? Any updates?

My understanding is that Israel is trying to help the UN get the supplies that have been waiting to cross into Gaza delivered and there has been quite a bit of aid getting in for almost a week and delivered to Gazans mostly, though a lot of it is still being stolen by Hamas.

FYI - Deuteronomy 16:20 often gets truncated. This is the whole sentence.

Justice, justice shall you pursue, that you may thrive and occupy the land that your God is giving you.


Chellee

(2,262 posts)
12. He did. In the second paragraph.
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 08:19 PM
Jul 31
But what can we do when public opinion means so little to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his government? I feel helpless. When I participate in demonstrations to return our hostages held by Hamas and end the war in Gaza, I know I am supporting the families of the hostages and advocating for an end to the senseless death of Israeli soldiers in Gaza, but doing little to change government policy. At the same time, I am filled with anguish over how many Israelis are legitimately concerned for our hostages and soldiers, but lack any real concern for the thousands of dead children in Gaza and the thousands more who are starving.

David__77

(24,478 posts)
22. It is shameful that some use scripture to justify illegal occupation or war crimes.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 10:24 AM
Aug 1

Some British even used quotes to justify British colonialism.

womanofthehills

(10,408 posts)
29. Looks like the agency giving out food is very incompetent
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 11:32 AM
Aug 1

And not only are IDF soldiers shooting at the hungry men getting food but Americans were shooting too accordingly to a whistleblower former green beret

Tony Aguilar is a retired Special Forces Green Beret who won a Purple Heart for his service to this country.

He took a contract helping to distribute aid in Gaza.

There, he witnessed atrocities committed using American taxpayer dollars.”
Please watch this important video.


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Mosby

(19,069 posts)
32. Tony Aguilar was fired for cause by UG Solutions.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 12:05 PM
Aug 1

And then he started threatening his colleagues in order to get his job back. Nine other contractors gave sworn statements attesting to his incompetence, narcissism, threats and lies. He lied to people about receiving a silver star, he lied about having cancer. There are saved text messages, with the Metadata proving all this.

When he was in the military, he lost his battalion command because he was arrested for BEATING HIS WIFE.

Lt. Col. (R) Tony Aguilar is not only a liar, but he is also an unhinged, incompetent narcissist and wife beater. Nothing he says should be considered credible.

womanofthehills

(10,408 posts)
33. Corrupt Gaza Humanitarian Foundation replaces UN
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 12:26 PM
Aug 1

AMY GOODMAN: In related news, a group of at least 21 U.S. senators has written to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, urging the U.S. to stop funding the shadowy U.S.- and Israeli-backed so-called Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which was created to take over aid deliveries in Gaza, replacing the United Nations. Democratic Senator Chris Van Hollen is the lead author of the letter. He appeared on CBS’s Face the Nation Sunday and said the aid sites have been turned into death traps.

SEN. CHRIS VAN HOLLEN: American taxpayers should not be spending one penny to fund this private organization, backed by mercenaries and by the IDF, that has become a death trap. Over a thousand people have died from being shot and killed as starving people crowd to try to get food at just these four sites.
https://www.democracynow.org/2025/7/29/anthony_aguilar_ghf_war_crimes

Samael13

(60 posts)
13. Why are jews as a whole responsible
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 08:20 PM
Jul 31

Should someone who had no connection to Judaism and israel be held responsible because they were born to jewish parents. Should I as someone who was born to an Italian american and a jewish american but has never practiced Judaism or been to Israel or even gave it a thought be held responsible. Sorry I dont believe in collective guilt.

Nanjeanne

(6,420 posts)
15. The Rabbi is speaking TO Jewish people about Jewish teachings. It has nothing to do with singling out
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 09:32 PM
Jul 31

Jews or saying Jews are wholly responsible. They talk about the teachings in the Jewish religion. That is why they are imploring Jews to act. It’s about our religion and our tenants. I don’t get the misunderstanding of the OP title or the Rabbi’s words.

EdmondDantes_

(948 posts)
16. Because unfortunately it gives the reading of blaming Jewish people who aren't Israeli
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 09:46 PM
Jul 31

And even a solid number of Israelis aren't in favor of what's happening. As an American I don't hold myself morally responsible for the torture committed by the Bush administration or what the Trump administration is doing. I voted, donated, and protested against it, but lack the effective ability to do more to stop it. The Israelis against it also lack more effective tools. It's not fair to expect them to try to run aid convoys or try to sabotage the IDF.

It's difficult because of the history of people blaming Jews as a whole for things. It's different than saying Christians because of that history even though a Christian leader might use the same phrasing in terms of using the religion's name. And it's hard because Jewish is both religious and secular in a way American, or French is not. It's an identity that has been used to persecute.

I don't think the rabbi intended it to be ready as people are, but I understand why some people do.

Nanjeanne

(6,420 posts)
17. Not really. If you read what he says he is speaking to Jews about their duty based on their religion.
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 09:51 PM
Jul 31

EdmondDantes_

(948 posts)
18. But that's my point. Not all Jews are religious
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 10:30 PM
Jul 31

We probably should have a better term for secular Jews, but it's a complicated history and we don't.

And that completely ignores the history of the last several thousand years. The Jews were blamed for the Black Death for example. There is a great deal of reason to be explicitly clear when talking about this subject to avoid confusion whether the confusion is legitimate or in less than good faith. You seem to assume it's just the later.

Jews as a whole are not Israel and not responsible for Israel's actions. Not even all Israelis are. Confusing the two is what leads to things like the bigot in Boulder throwing Molotov cocktails at old Jewish people, or the guy who shot and killed two random people at a Jewish event.

As I said before I don't think that's what the rabbi was doing because I think by default he would be talking from the religious perspective, but it leads to people misreading because unfortunately that's been primed by centuries of bigotry.

SocialDemocrat61

(5,802 posts)
28. Israelis yes, Jews no
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 11:30 AM
Aug 1

Just because someone is Jewish, it does not in any way make them responsible for the actions of a foreign country. Just as someone with Russian ancestry is not responsible for the actions of the current government of Russia. The same is true of Muslims. They are not responsible for acts of Islamic extremists.
My ethnic background is Italian and Irish. But I was born in the US. As were my parents and 3 of my grandparents and most of my great grandparents. I should not be held accountable for the actions of either Italy or Ireland. Nor should I be held accountable for the actions of the Catholic church despite being raised Catholic.
Requiring Jews to be held accountable for the actions of the Netanyahu government is an excuse for Antisemitism.

vanessa_ca

(570 posts)
30. Thanks for a thoughtful reply
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 11:45 AM
Aug 1

I don't read it as requiring Jews be held accountable or making us responsible. Rather that we all examine our conscience and do all we can to stop this. The Rabbi is pretty clear and said "If We Don't Act Now". Because now, we all know. There can be no excuse that we didn't know.

There's the old saying that silence is complicity, but I go further. Silence isn't just complicity, it's consent.

For the record, I and many I know do feel accountable for the actions of the Trump government. Is it not our job to care for our brother? Is it not our job to hold our government accountable? Whitewashing, looking away or being silent when things are done in our name is complicity. I think indifference is complicity too.

The reference to Jews abroad was pretty specific. Speak out and stop funding organizations that support Netanyahu's crimes, especially when him and his ilk go on and on about doing it in our name. We have a lot of power, we need to wield it for good.

SocialDemocrat61

(5,802 posts)
35. You're welcome
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 06:26 PM
Aug 1

And I agree with your thoughts that it’s up to all decent people to object to the horrific actions of the government of Israel. I just don’t like the implication that Jewish people should be singled out. After 9/11 it was required that every Muslim condemn every incident of Islamic terrorism. I even remember some complaining that African American leaders, like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson, didn’t condemn them harshly enough. Too many use this kind of virtue signaling to bash minority groups that they don’t like.

vanessa_ca

(570 posts)
36. I see your point-
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 06:38 PM
Aug 1

I see it more as an appeal to us, not singling out. Especially when Likud and organizations that support it broadcast very loudly that this is being done in our name. But I see your point.

I know how much it irked me to watch people like Piers Morgan badgering interviewees with "Do you condemn Hamas". Thank you

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