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Aviation Pro

(14,589 posts)
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 03:27 PM Yesterday

Apparently the market isn't buying

The 3% growth coming out of the fucking pedophile’s administration.

I wonder why, could it be the fucking pedophile is a fucking liar?

Context: All the major indexes are showing red as of 3:30 PM.

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ananda

(32,661 posts)
1. I think every "number" we hear about through the media...
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 03:30 PM
Yesterday

will be nothing but Trumpaganda.

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,321 posts)
4. The market was up all day until tRump counter-programmed with several tariff announcements. . . . nt
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 03:34 PM
Yesterday

Greg_In_SF

(422 posts)
5. Look at the timing
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 03:38 PM
Yesterday

It went red right when Powell said he wasn't lowering rates. Trump announced the India tariff this morning.

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,321 posts)
11. You might be right but I was thinking of the other three: de minimis, copper, and Brazil
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 03:51 PM
Yesterday

The India announcement was this morning, you are right on that.

I thought the other three came about 2pm Eastern, but though I haven't found reports earlier than that, it is possible. I wonder when they actually were announced.

I'm now more sure it was 2 pm, because copper fell off a cliff of up to 18% at 2pm.

stopdiggin

(14,105 posts)
9. Powell said NOTHING today
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 03:43 PM
Yesterday

that wasn't absolutely 'baked in' (for months now?) - with virtually every observer on the planet.
It doesn't fly ...

BoRaGard

(6,587 posts)
6. The G.O.P. lies about everything
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 03:38 PM
Yesterday

Eventually -- even folks who don't want to -- catch on to the republican CULTURE OF LIES.

No one believes the 3% figure precisely because the repubes are saying it's true. If that's what they say, the real number must be in the shitcan.

Lonestarblue

(12,841 posts)
8. We already know that all economic, science, medical and other data coming from this administration will be fake.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 03:42 PM
Yesterday

It will all be created to make Trump look like he knows what he’s doing when he clearly does not.

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,321 posts)
12. Powell and the Fed are independent. BLS is staffed by professionals and no toadies have been parachuted in.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 03:54 PM
Yesterday

Reflex cynicism is a form of confirmation bias.

Mike 03

(18,644 posts)
10. Bloomberg News is claiming that the markets reacted badly when Powell
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 03:50 PM
Yesterday

left doubt that they would cut rates in September. That makes sense to me, because I can't really imagining any responsible investors believing rates would be cut today. It was a good press conference, and that Powell didn't tip his hand about September (how could he, since the decision is dependent on data we don't have yet) didn't surprise me and it really shouldn't have surprised the market. Anyhow, that is how Bloomberg is explaining it.

Johonny

(24,269 posts)
13. Yes
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 04:40 PM
Yesterday

The GDP numbers didn't seem to register. Mostly, I think, because the gaming of the tariffs and imports 1st and 2nd qrts had masked the underlining economy and neither is indicative of 3rd or 4th qrt. Mostly the economy is meh. Not as horrific as the April fools tariff fears, but not the post Covid inflation economy most people predicted.

Then Powell confirmed, a lot of the FED also wants to see the numbers into the 3rd qrt before moving rates.

onenote

(45,522 posts)
14. The growth announcement was at 8:30. The DOW and S&P were up and down during much of the day.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 05:12 PM
Yesterday

Before they both took a dive after Powell spoke about interest rates, although they recovered somewhat in the last hour or so of trading.

The NASDAQ was basically up all day until the Powell announcement, and then it too recovered, finishing higher.

In short, the OP's assumptions don't seem to be supported by the market's actual behavior.

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