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milestogo

(21,853 posts)
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 11:19 AM Jun 2025

I don't know how Zelensky keeps going, but he does.

He has turned out to be a poised and heroic leader.

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I don't know how Zelensky keeps going, but he does. (Original Post) milestogo Jun 2025 OP
Zelenskyy was an entertainer with brains, built a company without a rich daddy estate. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #1
He is a genuine hero. So much courage it gives me chills. nt Trueblue Texan Jun 2025 #11
Amazing person JRS Jun 2025 #21
Dude is a LEADER BOSSHOG Jun 2025 #2
Supporting Ukraine has been the best bang-for-the-buck geopolitical play ever. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #3
You are right My Friend BOSSHOG Jun 2025 #4
Russia gets its war with NATO. Sneederbunk Jun 2025 #8
Saint Iamscrewed Jun 2025 #5
More of a Rabbi mucifer Jun 2025 #23
When the smoke clears after Russia is defeated, Ukraine is going to take its place as a great European power. flashman13 Jun 2025 #6
Unless Trump cons and threatens him into ALBliberal Jun 2025 #7
That won't happen. Zelinsky is no dupe. nt Trueblue Texan Jun 2025 #12
Assuming that Russia is defeated quakerboy Jun 2025 #18
And free w real elections. Putin could not risk a free ex-Soviet country outperforming him on his border Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #9
How will the country with the most nuclear weapons in the world be defeated? womanofthehills Jun 2025 #10
Yes, it's horrifying. But it could all stop if Russia would withdraw. It is on them. They crossed the line in the sand Cheezoholic Jun 2025 #20
He's like the energizer bunny William769 Jun 2025 #13
It may be one of those things where BaronChocula Jun 2025 #14
And the cherry on top . . . markpkessinger Jun 2025 #15
Trump is a moronic bullshitter paleotn Jun 2025 #19
France said the same about Washington paleotn Jun 2025 #16
He comes from an educated family of engineers, some of whom died in the Holocaust, is a trained lawyer with a deep... NNadir Jun 2025 #17
Well said. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #22
All that is true. But also, if you watch his TV series "Servant of the People", Emrys Jun 2025 #24

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,686 posts)
1. Zelenskyy was an entertainer with brains, built a company without a rich daddy estate.
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 11:23 AM
Jun 2025

Zelenskyy didn't get where he is by cheating and shady manipulation.

JRS

(4 posts)
21. Amazing person
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 02:32 PM
Jun 2025

So talented. I watched all of "Servant of the People," and I so appreciate his abilities. We are all fortunate to have him on this earth.

BOSSHOG

(43,704 posts)
2. Dude is a LEADER
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 11:25 AM
Jun 2025

He’s doing the planet a favor by damaging Russias military. And earning a planet full of respect because of it. Meanwhile in Washington …

flashman13

(1,517 posts)
6. When the smoke clears after Russia is defeated, Ukraine is going to take its place as a great European power.
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 12:33 PM
Jun 2025

As a nation it has tremendous agricultural and industrial resources.

quakerboy

(14,551 posts)
18. Assuming that Russia is defeated
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 01:47 PM
Jun 2025

would suddenly have no leverage to extort them with, and precious little goodwill left with them or their allies to convince them with.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,686 posts)
9. And free w real elections. Putin could not risk a free ex-Soviet country outperforming him on his border
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 12:47 PM
Jun 2025

No free elections at the moment with war raging, but Ukrainian people sent Putin's puppet running away to Moscow and elected Zelenskyy freely.

womanofthehills

(10,398 posts)
10. How will the country with the most nuclear weapons in the world be defeated?
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 12:56 PM
Jun 2025

I expect we are going to see horrible retaliation on the day of the supposed peace talk.

Millions of Ukrainian & Russian young men are dead and tens of thousands are brain dead and amputees.

Cheezoholic

(3,299 posts)
20. Yes, it's horrifying. But it could all stop if Russia would withdraw. It is on them. They crossed the line in the sand
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 01:54 PM
Jun 2025

Asking Ukraine to give up only to be fully conquered within a year is not acceptable. Ukraine is not threatening Russia's existence. It is defending it's own. It is their young men and their choice to defend themselves. Besides, why does it matter that Russia has the "most" nuclear weapons? That is old 20th century cold war thinking. India and Pakistan could just as much set off a devastating nuclear war as Russia and Ukraine.

BaronChocula

(3,360 posts)
14. It may be one of those things where
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 01:26 PM
Jun 2025

no one knows, including yourself what your power is until you are tested.

markpkessinger

(8,859 posts)
15. And the cherry on top . . .
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 01:27 PM
Jun 2025

. . . is that he has made Trump look like an absolute fool for making his arrogant comment in April, "You have no cards to play!"

paleotn

(20,907 posts)
19. Trump is a moronic bullshitter
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 01:47 PM
Jun 2025

Sometimes it’s hard to tell what’s bullshit and what’s Donnie just being an idiot.

NNadir

(36,632 posts)
17. He comes from an educated family of engineers, some of whom died in the Holocaust, is a trained lawyer with a deep...
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 01:46 PM
Jun 2025

...sense of humor, humor being a trait that only comes from Wisdom and is enhanced, not hindered, by a subtle sense of tragedy.

All these things add up to something with which most people now in power in the United States have no experience: Courage.



Emrys

(8,711 posts)
24. All that is true. But also, if you watch his TV series "Servant of the People",
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 11:23 PM
Jun 2025

it's very sophisticated satire, with echoes of the UK's "Yes, Minister"/"Yes, Prime Minister", and a radical depiction of the graft and inefficency in the Ukrainian regime at that time. The acting and production values are top-rate, as are the scripts.

It's also chilling to see Ukraine depicted in peacetime, in all its beauty, and how much the plot prefigured Zelensky's election. What it missed, obviously, was the second Russian invasion and Zelensky's transformation from a principled politician bewildered and frustrated by the state's dysfunction into a highly effective diplomat and wartime leader. And yes, that courage of his was in plain view when he refused to go into government in exile.

Many episodes are available on YouTube if it's not available on any other outlet wherever you are.

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