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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(123,895 posts)
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 02:43 PM Sunday

Trump just threw one of his most powerful allies under the bus

On Thursday evening, President Donald Trump publicly split with the Federalist Society, the powerful conservative lawyers’ group that he relied on to select judges in his first term. Thanks in no small part to Trump, a majority of the Supreme Court justices are associated with the Federalist Society, as are dozens or even hundreds of other federal judges.

But now, Trump apparently regrets his earlier partnership with the Society.

“I am so disappointed in The Federalist Society because of the bad advice they gave me on numerous Judicial Nominations,” Trump posted on Truth Social. He blames his decision to ally with the Society on the fact that he was “new to Washington” when he first became president, “and it was suggested that I use The Federalist Society as a recommending source on Judges.” He also names Leonard Leo, the co-chair of the Society’s board, a “sleazebag” who “probably hates America, and obviously has his own separate ambitions.”

It’s a bold move by Trump, because the Federalist Society derives much of its power from the fact that so many of its members have lifetime appointments to the federal bench. Promising conservative lawyers want to join — and pay dues — to the Society because it was seen as a pipeline to power. And the fact that its members have been able to shape policy on everything from abortion to race to student loans made it the premier right-wing legal group.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-just-threw-one-most-185500414.html

When your enemy is self-destructing do not interrupt him.

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Trump just threw one of his most powerful allies under the bus (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sunday OP
Please proceed SheltieLover Sunday #1
Eventually they'll figure it out. 11 Bravo Sunday #2
Little lovers' spat. Who else they got? 50 Shades Of Blue Sunday #3
Vance. EndlessWire Sunday #22
Would the GOP roll over and play dead for Vance like they do for Trump, though? 50 Shades Of Blue Sunday #30
Sleazebag, eh? MineralMan Sunday #4
Much as I hate them, the FS is nothing to mess with. So ... Scrivener7 Sunday #5
Shhhhh! malaise Sunday #9
Uncanny astuteness Just Jerome Sunday #6
Too many Federalist Society judges House of Roberts Sunday #7
Federalist lawyers & judges are conservatives, no doubt about it FakeNoose Sunday #15
Not necessarily Nazis - more like Torquemada, or Bernado Gui . . . hatrack Monday #35
This orangecrush Sunday #20
that, in my opinion is exactly why he is throwing them under the bus nt yellowdogintexas Sunday #29
I heard Leonard may have called him fat. Buddyzbuddy Sunday #8
They will ice him and blame it on us. Marcuse Sunday #10
Good news for us and the world. Joinfortmill Sunday #11
Congress, Senate, SCOTUS... lame54 Sunday #12
Musk and other big donors are going to fund a new rival to the Federalist Society Martin Eden Sunday #13
So what Dump is really saying is he would have picked people with more criminal inclinations mdbl Sunday #14
Maddow Blog-Why the White House decided even the conservative Federalist Society isn't good enough LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #16
"He's gonna need a higher bus..." Montauk6 Sunday #17
Kind of reminiscent when Hitler turned against Ernst Rohm, head of the SA no_hypocrisy Sunday #18
I suppose it's a bit premature to hope they take each other out, but one can dream. n/t JHB Sunday #19
The few brain cells still working are corrupted Nigrum Cattus Sunday #21
He really has to be running out of people to throw under the bus PatSeg Sunday #23
Pass the popcorn 🍿 Hekate Sunday #24
Burn Iamscrewed Sunday #25
trmp only wants judges who agree 1000% with him spanone Sunday #26
The turd is fighting with the pile of shit? GoCubsGo Sunday #27
Hate to mention a possible down side. TommyT139 Sunday #28
if the markets begin to topple, SleeplessinSoCal Sunday #31
He doesn't want loyalty, but fealty Dem4life1970 Sunday #32
Melding hate. czarjak Sunday #33
He is posturing for bad news about the Federalists randr Monday #34
This is typical of Agent Orange peggysue2 Monday #36
FS will continue to abet the facist p25 agenda Clouds Passing Monday #37
He thinks he's the dog and not just the tail. That's quaint. The FS knew going in... Ol Janx Spirit Monday #38
It seems Trump will become increasingly isolated as he attacks even his strongest supporters for not supporting every Martin68 Monday #39

11 Bravo

(24,125 posts)
2. Eventually they'll figure it out.
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 02:53 PM
Sunday

Donnie Dainty Digit's loyalty extends no farther than the tips of the fingers on his teeny little hands.

EndlessWire

(7,819 posts)
22. Vance.
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 04:35 PM
Sunday

I hope that they get so pissed off at rump that they plot to remove him. Let him call them names, and rant on. I'd rather deal with Vance. Those rich people in the shadows can force rump out.

What a day. Not sure what purpose it serves to announce all this hatred and the fact that he has new enemies. What power does any of his lowlife followers have against The Federalist Society? Is he going to try to force Leonard Leo out of his position there? Is that the move? Is he really telling TFS what he wants?


50 Shades Of Blue

(11,150 posts)
30. Would the GOP roll over and play dead for Vance like they do for Trump, though?
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 05:28 PM
Sunday

I just can't see Vance wielding the power that Trump does. He's as evil and megalomaniac as Trump, but he doesn't have Trump's rabid following, and those people mean business. I could see Trumpers resenting the hell out of Vance if he took over, so Trump would end up still wielding power behind the scenes. Seems to me these three monsters are like that scorpions inn a bottle metaphor, lol. At this point do I think Leo has more to fear from Trump than vice versa, because Trump can sic the DOJ on the FS. And Vance would do the same thing. But either way I hate them all so fucking much!

MineralMan

(149,158 posts)
4. Sleazebag, eh?
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 03:12 PM
Sunday

That's not a nice thing to call him, I think. I mean, I don't disagree, but I'd think the right-wingers who love those Federalist guys might be disappointed with Trump over that. Who knows?

House of Roberts

(6,042 posts)
7. Too many Federalist Society judges
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 03:29 PM
Sunday

have ruled against him. He obviously wants judges that are loyal only to him and not conservative principles.

FakeNoose

(37,525 posts)
15. Federalist lawyers & judges are conservatives, no doubt about it
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 03:54 PM
Sunday

But that doesn't mean they're also Nazis (fascists). Only Chump-humping MAGAs make that assumption.
Chump is just starting to figure this out.

Buddyzbuddy

(937 posts)
8. I heard Leonard may have called him fat.
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 03:30 PM
Sunday

And rat face Miller may have told people that you're easily manipulated and he's the actual President.
But, those are just rumours.

Martin Eden

(14,394 posts)
13. Musk and other big donors are going to fund a new rival to the Federalist Society
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 03:41 PM
Sunday

This new organization will recruit judicial candidates who can be counted on for fealty not to the US Constitution, but to Dear Leader.

It will be called The Fascist Society.

mdbl

(6,577 posts)
14. So what Dump is really saying is he would have picked people with more criminal inclinations
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 03:46 PM
Sunday

who he assume will protect his criminality. As usual, he makes me wanna

LetMyPeopleVote

(164,078 posts)
16. Maddow Blog-Why the White House decided even the conservative Federalist Society isn't good enough
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 03:56 PM
Sunday

The Federalist Society has long been seen as one of the most successful projects of the conservative movement. Team Trump no longer seems to care.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/white-house-decided-even-conservative-federalist-society-isnt-good-eno-rcna210026

But one nagging detail got in the way: One of the judges that ruled against the White House was appointed by Trump and confirmed by Senate Republicans. The political problem was obvious.

And so, as Politico reported, the president has opened up a new line of attack.

President Donald Trump leveled unusually pointed criticism of a prominent conservative legal activist and organization Thursday as he railed against a ruling that struck down his sweeping tariffs. The president, in a post on his social media platform, slammed Leonard Leo, the former chair of the Federalist Society, calling him a ‘sleazebag’ who ‘probably hates America.


As part of an odd and meandering online rant, the Republican wrote, “I am so disappointed in The Federalist Society because of the bad advice they gave me on numerous Judicial Nominations. This is something that cannot be forgotten!”

For those unfamiliar with the Federalist Society, it is a conservative organization that has long been seen as one of the most successful projects of the conservative movement. Indeed, throughout Trump’s first term, the group was a key part of a brutally efficient assembly-line process: The Federalist Society would vet and recommend far-right ideologues for the federal bench; the White House would use the organization’s lists for judicial nominations; Senate Republicans would rubber-stamp the president’s choices; and Americans would watch the judiciary lurch to the right to a degree unseen in generations......

In fact, a year before Election Day 2024, The New York Times reported that Team Trump had begun looking at Federalist Society members as “squishes.” The article quoted Russell Vought, 15 months before he’d begin his latest tenure as the director of the White House’s Office of Management and Budget, saying, “The Federalist Society doesn’t know what time it is.”

That was in late 2023. Now, midway through 2025, as several Trump-appointed federal judges rule in ways the president does not like, he won’t blame himself, and he’s won't blame Senate Republicans for confirming his picks — but he can blame the Federalist Society for recommending jurists who sometimes see themselves as neutral arbiters of a separate and coequal branch of government.

That’s precisely why Stephen Miller, a White House deputy chief of staff, appeared on CNN the morning after Trump’s online rant and accused the Federalist Society of creating “a broken system.” He added, “We’re not going to be using the Federalist Society to make judicial nominations at all going forward.”

As for what Team Trump might replace it with, watch this space

The Federalist Society judges are ultraconservative assholes but they follow the law. trump wants idiots who will worship him and not the law

no_hypocrisy

(51,743 posts)
18. Kind of reminiscent when Hitler turned against Ernst Rohm, head of the SA
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 03:58 PM
Sunday

(Stormtroopers). Hitler didn't want a coalition of groups. He wanted to be in charge of everything, period.

Nigrum Cattus

(568 posts)
21. The few brain cells still working are corrupted
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 04:23 PM
Sunday

Also, when your enemy is self-destructing - PILE ON !!!!!

PatSeg

(50,272 posts)
23. He really has to be running out of people to throw under the bus
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 04:41 PM
Sunday

No one can make enemies quite like Trump does.

GoCubsGo

(33,877 posts)
27. The turd is fighting with the pile of shit?
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 05:10 PM
Sunday

Don't ask me which is which. It's hard to tell. Either way, I'm rooting for mutual destruction, once again.

TommyT139

(1,448 posts)
28. Hate to mention a possible down side.
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 05:10 PM
Sunday

As evil as the Fed Soc is, at least they are American.

Trump still needs the money, both to feed his greed, and to use to keep the rethugs in line. He has found a new source -- overseas dark money, harder to trace, in the form of crypto.

Not that I understand how they turn crypto into real money. I assume that's a key motivator of why Trump wants to link the US money system to crypto: he wants to use our financial infrastructure to launder money for him.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,090 posts)
31. if the markets begin to topple,
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 05:37 PM
Sunday

even when he chickens out, we'll see tge big guns drive him out.

Dem4life1970

(878 posts)
32. He doesn't want loyalty, but fealty
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 05:47 PM
Sunday

Loyalty to Trump is a one way street. In his tiny, mushroom sized and shaped, lizard brain, he thinks "Trump appointed judge" means someone who will rule exactly like he wants and who will probably take his "perfect phone calls" so that he can tell them how to rule (who wants to bet he has been calling judges and some are refusing to talk to him before they rule?). As has already been said, instead he is getting right leaning judges who follow the law and don't reflexively do what the guy who appointed them wants them to do.

As much as I still disagree with the 9-0 decision against Colorado last year allowing Trump on the ballot, all of the SCOTUS justices showed judicial independence (and oops-destroyed our Democracy in the process, but hey).

randr

(12,553 posts)
34. He is posturing for bad news about the Federalists
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 09:12 AM
Monday

Just like he denied knowledge of the 2025 manifesto. The "originalists" are about to come under introspection.

peggysue2

(11,895 posts)
36. This is typical of Agent Orange
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 09:47 AM
Monday

There's no halfway with Trump. It's his way or the highway because domination is what drives the lunatic.

I have no love for the Federalist Society. Their brand of conservatism has turned into paleoconservatism--rigid, narrow, white Christian nationalism, economic protectionism among others.

What Trump and Miller hate is that the selection of Federalist judges include people who actually believe in the rule of law. A number of whom have refused (thus far) to rubber stamp Agent Orange and his Flying Monkey Brigade's rush to turn the country into a Trump enterprise.

The Federalists have a lot of money and clout. I don't think they're going to take kindly to the Trumpster trashing them or calling out the likes of Leonard Leo.

But please, by all means proceed! Intra-party fights will slow, maybe even temporarily disrupt this nightmare.



Ol Janx Spirit

(254 posts)
38. He thinks he's the dog and not just the tail. That's quaint. The FS knew going in...
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 11:06 AM
Monday

...that he was a useful idiot--with the emphasis on idiot.

And really, he has served their agenda very well. I don't think they will ever abandon him. They may even be welcoming this good cop/bad cop cosplay theatre. They have a plan; all he cares about is a plane.

They also know: TACO. I doubt they take any of the bluster seriously.

But I bet popcorn futures are up today!

Martin68

(25,864 posts)
39. It seems Trump will become increasingly isolated as he attacks even his strongest supporters for not supporting every
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 02:24 PM
Monday

idiotic whim.

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