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Pototan

(2,658 posts)
Sat May 31, 2025, 03:26 AM May 31

My pure speculation on Epstein death

Without any proof, my theory of Epstein's death is that it was a conspiratorial murder, not suicide.

I believe (without any proof) that Jeff Epstein had the goods on a lot of powerful people. But only one of them could help him at that time. That was the President, Donald Trump.

Only the President in 2019 could pardon Epstein and Epstein had the goods on Trump. Trump knew an Epstein pardon would cost him the election and Epstein knew he only had leverage up to the election. In any event, Trump knew that an Epstein pardon, even after an election, win or lose, would amount to an admission of guilt. It would be too obvious, even for the MAGA cult. Only Trump had the motive, opportunity and means to put together such a conspiracy.

So, even though this is pure speculation, it isn't without merit.

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BurnDoubt

(597 posts)
2. Pure speculation here, too...
Sat May 31, 2025, 04:03 AM
May 31

Rudy has a lot of mojo around New York law enforcement and judiciary. M... O... M... Never trusted him. Did ANYBODY make more bank off the Twin Towers Tragedy?????

moniss

(7,422 posts)
3. Well it does beg the question about
Sat May 31, 2025, 04:04 AM
May 31

why someone who had the goods on so many powerful people suddenly felt so bad about himself and his life that he couldn't take it anymore. Then it begs the question of how the most high profile man behind bars, who has the goods on taking down a large number of the most powerful, just happens to be housed in a place where the guards and surveillance completely fail in a 3 Stooges way and so he could be free to "commit suicide" which conveniently protects those rich and powerful people. Funny how that all worked out for them.

barbtries

(30,460 posts)
6. one of those things we may never know.
Sat May 31, 2025, 06:20 AM
May 31

i believe he was murdered, have since it happened.

one previously healthy man suddenly dead in his cell is evidence. there was some hinky shit about how the cameras went down.

doubt we'll ever know. same with JFK.

tanyev

(46,655 posts)
7. Bill Barr? Trump doesn't plan the details of anything like that himself.
Sat May 31, 2025, 08:32 AM
May 31

He simply tells someone well-placed, like maybe Bill Barr, that he wants the Epstein problem to go away.

Pototan

(2,658 posts)
8. I saw an episode of "The Good Fight"
Sat May 31, 2025, 09:49 AM
May 31

Last edited Sat May 31, 2025, 12:06 PM - Edit history (1)

Actually, a series of episodes, that Barr's father had a connection to Epstein and the show mixed fact and fiction to kinda indicate that AG Bill Barr was the mastermind beiond Epstein's death.

The fiction part kinda indicated that Epstein actually survived, another body was substituted, and all the players were in on it.

tanyev

(46,655 posts)
9. Yes, it's beyond strangely curious that Trump's Attorney General was the son of the man
Sat May 31, 2025, 10:05 AM
May 31

who hired an unqualified Epstein to teach at a posh prep school. Given what we now know about Epstein’s personal predilections and his trade in catering to other people’s predilections, a teaching position at a posh prep school would have been like an entry-level position at a candy store. And Bill must have had a bird’s-eye view on the beginnings of Epstein’s empire.

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