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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(124,537 posts)
Fri May 30, 2025, 09:00 PM May 30

One of Trump's Weirdest Obsessions Is Spiraling Out of Control

In my 30 years of studying the literature and culture of Louis XIV, I never thought I would see an American president actually model himself on the Sun King, to the point that a recent essay in the New York Times declared the current Oval Office décor a “gilded rococo hellscape.” Along with the anti-royalist sentiment that used to characterize U.S. politics, I always assumed that most Americans had no real stomach for the hubris and sheer garishness that defined the style and surroundings of France’s most famous king. When I’ve taken students to Versailles, I’ve noticed that as much as they admire the size and ambitiousness of the château that Louis XIV declared the center of French government, they nonetheless agree with the caustic assessment of the Duke de Saint-Simon, Louis XIV’s greatest critic: It’s “a masterpiece of bad taste.”

In fact, the White House is the third residence that Trump has tried to make resemble Versailles. Interior designer Angelo Donghia incorporated some gold elements into his initial vision for the penthouse apartment at Trump Tower, and Henry Conversano added much more in a later redesign, with the result being something New York Times architectural critic Paul Goldberger described in a 2017 talk as a “pseudo-Versailles in the sky.” But it’s less well known that the ghosts of Versailles also haunt Mar-a-Lago, where, when adding a ballroom, Trump ditched the Spanish theme of the original building and chose instead to mimic the Sun King’s Hall of Mirrors. A 2007 appraisal of Mar-a-Lago made for the Trump Organization by the firm Callaway and Price described the ballroom as “in the style of Versailles, in a Louis XIV gold and crystal finish, with huge crystal chandeliers and floor-to-ceiling mirrors on one wall.” Apparently it’s this ballroom at Mar-a-Lago, with its $7 million of gold leaf, that Trump wants now to re-create in the East Wing; the gold cherubs have already been brought up from Florida. No doubt, if it’s ever completed, this third Versailles revamp will have a ceiling painting to rival the original by Charles Le Brun depicting Louis XIV’s military victories. (Perhaps, instead, “Donald Trump vanquishes DEI”?)

More disturbing, of course, than the president’s taste is the administration’s view of executive authority. This evokes the absolutist rhetoric of Louis XIV’s worst sycophants, which Saint-Simon despised. One can almost hear the echoes of the Versailles courtiers in the Trump Cabinet’s paeans to the president’s leadership, and Saint-Simon’s description of the Sun King’s appetite for adulation, found in the writer’s secret Mémoires, published after his death, surely suggests our own leader’s vulnerability to such praise: “The self-effacement, the self-abasement, the look of admiration, subjugation, supplication, most of all the look of negation except through him, were the sole means of pleasing him.” (That translation is my own.) Saint-Simon knew that when kings embrace their own flattery, they open themselves to manipulation, and the writer viewed Louis XIV as an illusory absolutist who was in fact controlled by fawning scoundrels. Sort of like if an American president were to be hoodwinked by a Russian dictator offering him a complimentary portrait.

The irony is that Donald Trump is not governing like Louis XIV, and we would probably be better off if he did. The Sun King massively invested in science, technology, the arts, and intellectual activity; Trump disdains them all. Louis XIV created the Royal Academy for Sciences, the Royal Academy for Painting and Sculpture, the Royal Academy for Dance; Trump cuts the National Institutes of Health, bullies the Kennedy Center, threatens Big Bird. Louis XIV built roads, paved streets, carved canals, constructed ports; Trump freezes infrastructure spending and may decimate the National Park Service. You don’t get Versailles by firing state workers.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/one-trump-weirdest-obsessions-spiraling-184622079.html

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One of Trump's Weirdest Obsessions Is Spiraling Out of Control (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 30 OP
Every goddamned thing I read about Taco Don Blue Owl May 30 #1
I know exactly what you mean. 🤨 ShazzieB May 31 #13
And every damn time someone criticizes Trump, he accuses them of hating America. tanyev May 30 #2
No, We Love America! We hate you, the Fascist Fuck Crook puppet in the WH Cha May 30 #4
Golden cherubs in the White House? 3catwoman3 May 30 #3
Our State Capitol here in Colorado DENVERPOPS May 30 #6
The White House doesn't (currently) have a dome Retrograde May 31 #12
If the Sun King was alive JustAnotherGen May 30 #5
Yep. It might hurt his feelings, though. BurnDoubt May 30 #7
I would hope JustAnotherGen May 31 #15
"Did somebody mention my name?" - MonSewer (R) BoRaGard May 31 #18
Love it! JustAnotherGen May 31 #21
Even they approve JustAnotherGen May 31 #22
I hate to hate but he makes it so easy to hate him immensely! kimbutgar May 30 #8
Convict Iamscrewed May 30 #9
For one thing, the Sun King was popular. LisaM May 30 #10
Decor is the least of our worries.National *STRESS* daily is a big thing. UTUSN May 30 #11
But if he does that, he won't be in the news everyday. mwmisses4289 May 31 #14
Good read malaise May 31 #16
#GildedRococoHellscape now going viral BoRaGard May 31 #17
"less well known that the ghosts of Versailles also haunt Mar-a-Lago" - we saw the toilet. muriel_volestrangler May 31 #19
"Hoodwinked by a Russian dictator." Kid Berwyn May 31 #20

tanyev

(46,782 posts)
2. And every damn time someone criticizes Trump, he accuses them of hating America.
Fri May 30, 2025, 09:16 PM
May 30
L'État, c'est moi

Cha

(311,975 posts)
4. No, We Love America! We hate you, the Fascist Fuck Crook puppet in the WH
Fri May 30, 2025, 09:27 PM
May 30

who is Gutting America!, Assface.

DENVERPOPS

(12,603 posts)
6. Our State Capitol here in Colorado
Fri May 30, 2025, 10:22 PM
May 30

has a gold dome. They apply very thin, small sheets of gold leaf, somewhat like aluminum foil but thinner......when the weather wears it off they re-do it.

Don't tell Trump about this, he will change the exterior of the White House, to a Gold House.......

Retrograde

(11,142 posts)
12. The White House doesn't (currently) have a dome
Sat May 31, 2025, 12:25 AM
May 31

but if Truman could give the White House an extreme makeover .....

JustAnotherGen

(35,324 posts)
5. If the Sun King was alive
Fri May 30, 2025, 10:15 PM
May 30

He'd rake one look at Trump and piss on him. He's crude, crass, lacks style, and is an ill mannered boor.

JustAnotherGen

(35,324 posts)
15. I would hope
Sat May 31, 2025, 09:00 AM
May 31

He'd bring along his brother - Monsieur and his brothers long time lover the Chevalier de Lorraine.

Hilarity and laughter would ensue.

I'm A French Aristocracy buff (one of the hundred thousand descendants via my maternal grandmother) -that meeting would be off the hook.

Louis - But what do you mean you have HUNDREDS of infrastructure weeks? What do you mean you bridges are falling? What is this power grid of which you speak and why is it failing? You are simply going to have to get someone to go out there each night and light them by hand! Why are you so slovenly? Remove him! Remove him from my presence!


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JustAnotherGen

(35,324 posts)
22. Even they approve
Sat May 31, 2025, 11:27 AM
May 31

If only he had a fabulous bow tie!

Much was dramatized in Versailles - but students of the history are amazed at the attention to detail, and the actors brought to life historical accounts of the personalities of Louis and Philippe - and Philippe's lover Chevalier. They were together from their teens until their 70's. A love affair for the ages.

LisaM

(29,240 posts)
10. For one thing, the Sun King was popular.
Fri May 30, 2025, 11:06 PM
May 30

Also, pasting up a few ugly gold filigrees doesn't make the Oval Office Versailles.

(Louis XIV also wasn't France's most famous king, he's also not even the most famous Louis).

UTUSN

(74,465 posts)
11. Decor is the least of our worries.National *STRESS* daily is a big thing.
Fri May 30, 2025, 11:13 PM
May 30

The thing at the top is supposed to bring tranquility to us unwashed below, not cause us stress.




mwmisses4289

(1,284 posts)
14. But if he does that, he won't be in the news everyday.
Sat May 31, 2025, 08:19 AM
May 31

What's a little stress to the people of the country compared to the important activity of being in the news, front and center, everyday?

(I don't need to to add the sarcasm thingy, do i?)

muriel_volestrangler

(103,902 posts)
19. "less well known that the ghosts of Versailles also haunt Mar-a-Lago" - we saw the toilet.
Sat May 31, 2025, 09:28 AM
May 31

If you "decorate" your shitter like that, you can guarantee the rest of the pad will be even more over-the-top.

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