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Mountainguy

(1,966 posts)
Fri May 30, 2025, 12:46 AM Friday

Gaza Humanitarian Foundation

Has handed out 1.8 million meals since beginning operations earlier this week. All while also bypassing the Hamas controlled distribution system every other NGO says must be used.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-855958

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Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (Original Post) Mountainguy Friday OP
Scam enid602 Friday #1
Hamas Progoganda Mountainguy Friday #2
Skeptical enid602 Friday #3
How were they "blockading Gaza for 20 years" when Gaza shared a border with Eygpt not under control of Israel? EX500rider Friday #10
Blockade enid602 Yesterday #16
Yes they were such poor (bad) neighbors even their Muslim Brothers restrict their border EX500rider Yesterday #17
Post removed Post removed Friday #11
The head of the GHF resigned because this plan couldn't be neutral, impartial and independent muriel_volestrangler Friday #4
And since then Mountainguy Friday #5
You see, one "side" here is not "Hamas". It's the starving Palestinian people. muriel_volestrangler Friday #6
And those people are getting fed through Mountainguy Friday #7
"Cheering"? What was that you said about "propaganda"? muriel_volestrangler Friday #8
Yes, cheering Mountainguy Friday #9
I noticed that there was no reply to your post MarineCombatEngineer Friday #13
And then the trouble started muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #18
And that hasn't stopped them Mountainguy Yesterday #21
But capacity is not ramping up muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #23
And they'll get more supplies Mountainguy Yesterday #24
That's BS Beastly Boy Friday #12
"Bypassing Hamas" seems to be triggering for some. nt LexVegas Yesterday #14
I noticed that too Mountainguy Yesterday #15
You're taking the Israeli government's word over the UN and aid organizations muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #19
Israels word SHOULD be taken Mountainguy Yesterday #20
Hamas is not the UN. Hamas is not an aid organization. muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #22
In Gaza they are Mountainguy Yesterday #25
Bullshit propaganda from Netanyahu? muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #26

enid602

(9,380 posts)
1. Scam
Fri May 30, 2025, 01:35 AM
Friday

This is a scam. GHF distributes the aid at four distribution sites, all located in Southern Gaza. No other NGO’s are allowed to distribute aid. This manner of removimg people by making them move distances is considered a crime against humanity.

Mountainguy

(1,966 posts)
2. Hamas Progoganda
Fri May 30, 2025, 01:38 AM
Friday

They want to control, and take, aid deliveries.

Do you have a problem with Gazans getting food without Hamas deciding who gets it?

enid602

(9,380 posts)
3. Skeptical
Fri May 30, 2025, 05:50 AM
Friday

I’m just skeptical when the people who demand to control every apect of aid distribution are the same folks who have been blockading Gaza for over 20 years now.

EX500rider

(11,854 posts)
10. How were they "blockading Gaza for 20 years" when Gaza shared a border with Eygpt not under control of Israel?
Fri May 30, 2025, 05:41 PM
Friday

enid602

(9,380 posts)
16. Blockade
Sat May 31, 2025, 03:20 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Sat May 31, 2025, 04:46 AM - Edit history (1)

From wikipedia: “ The restrictions on movement and goods in Gaza imposed by Israel date to the early 1990s.[1] After Hamas took over in 2007, Israel significantly intensified existing movement restrictions and imposed a complete blockade on the movement of goods and people in and out of the Gaza Strip.[2] In the same year, Egypt closed the Rafah border crossing.[3] The blockade's stated aims are to prevent the smuggling of weapons into Gaza and exert economic pressure on Hamas.[1] Human rights groups have called the blockade illegal and a form of collective punishment, as it restricts the flow of essential goods, contributes to economic hardship, and limits Gazans' freedom of movement.[2][4] The land, sea, and air blockade isolated Gaza from the rest of the occupied Palestinian territory and the world.[5] The blockade and its effects have led to the territory being called an "open-air prison".[6][7]”

Furthermore, you might recall that Israel had a major campaign in Rafah in May, 2024. Most of Rafah and the Rafah Crossing were destroyed at this time. In March of this year, after peace talks with Hamas failed, Israel wrought an even more complete destruction upon Rafah. There’s really no infraestructure there to distribute aid through Rafah.

EX500rider

(11,854 posts)
17. Yes they were such poor (bad) neighbors even their Muslim Brothers restrict their border
Sat May 31, 2025, 09:34 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Sun Jun 1, 2025, 01:10 AM - Edit history (2)

Otherwise there's bombs going off in the Sinai.

That's on them.

The point still stands Israel by themselves could not blockade a country they don't control all the borders

Response to enid602 (Reply #3)

muriel_volestrangler

(103,775 posts)
4. The head of the GHF resigned because this plan couldn't be neutral, impartial and independent
Fri May 30, 2025, 06:46 AM
Friday
In his resignation statement, Wood, a former US marine, said: "Two months ago, I was approached about leading GHF's efforts because of my experience in humanitarian operations.

"Like many others around the world, I was horrified and heartbroken at the hunger crisis in Gaza and, as a humanitarian leader, I was compelled to do whatever I could to help alleviate the suffering."

He said he was "proud of the work I oversaw, including developing a pragmatic plan that could feed hungry people, address security concerns about diversion, and complement the work of longstanding NGOs in Gaza."

But, he said, it had become "clear that it is not possible to implement this plan while also strictly adhering to the humanitarian principles of humanity, neutrality, impartiality, and independence, which I will not abandon."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e6d97x99qo

Last week, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that under the aid mechanism, Gaza's population would eventually be moved to a sterile zone in Gaza's far south. He said it was for their protection while Israeli forces fight Hamas elsewhere. He also said once the Palestinians enter the area, they don't necessarily go back.

Israel also says that after Hamas is defeated, it will implement a plan proposed by U.S. President Donald Trump to relocate the territory's population outside Gaza, a proposal that has been widely condemned by international groups.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2167926/how-will-gaza-aid-distribution-work-under-controversial-u-s--backed-group-heres-what-we-know

Mountainguy

(1,966 posts)
5. And since then
Fri May 30, 2025, 10:11 AM
Friday

They have handed out almost 2 million meals.

When one side is Hamas, I think its ok to feed people in a non-neutral way. I think that's pretty much the idea.


Hamas can starve.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,775 posts)
6. You see, one "side" here is not "Hamas". It's the starving Palestinian people.
Fri May 30, 2025, 10:56 AM
Friday

The ones that Netanyahu wanted to move around, and maybe not let return to their homes.

You know, ethnic cleansing.

That's the problem with this mysterious Foundation, whose funding source is still unknown. They ones that remain are cooperating with the "the starving people are our pawns" plan.

Mountainguy

(1,966 posts)
7. And those people are getting fed through
Fri May 30, 2025, 11:34 AM
Friday

GHF.

The lines of people getting food and cheering the American org there feeding them dont seem to mind.

There is a reason Hamas is trying every way possible to stop the GHF. It threate s their grip on Gazans.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,775 posts)
8. "Cheering"? What was that you said about "propaganda"?
Fri May 30, 2025, 11:50 AM
Friday

I also notice the JPost article includes a picture of the "Rahma Worldwide" logo on the aid.

Charity accuses Israeli-backed Gaza food group of unauthorised use of logo

Images distributed by GHF this week showed shipments bearing a label from Rahma Worldwide, which is based in Michigan, as part of its first distribution of food to sites inside Gaza. The rollout was marred by scenes of chaos on Tuesday after crowds overran one distribution centre managed by GHF and Israeli forces said they had fired “warning shots”. Gaza health officials said at least one civilian had been killed and 48 injured in the incident.
...
Unable to get the food in, Rahma had allowed the containers to be “taken custody” by GHF. Rahma added, however, that it had refused to allow its personnel to take part in the distribution because of GHF’s use of armed security contractors.

“We noticed images of our food boxes with logo being distributed without Rahma’s direct involvement,” the group said in a statement. “Rahma did not authorise such distribution, and none of our team was permitted to participate in this process.”
...
“We stipulated that the Rahma logo be removed from the aid parcels,” said Dr Shadi Omar Zaza, the head of Rahma. “To our surprise, the organisation’s logo was not removed, and the security company distributed these parcels bearing the Rahma Worldwide logo.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/29/charity-accuses-israeli-backed-gaza-aid-group-of-using-logo-without-permission

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,549 posts)
13. I noticed that there was no reply to your post
Fri May 30, 2025, 10:25 PM
Friday

showing the video and the subsequent verification of the video.
Guess it didn't fit the narrative that the video was fake or altered.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,775 posts)
18. And then the trouble started
Sat May 31, 2025, 09:57 AM
Yesterday
But by that afternoon, the scene was one of total chaos. Videos showed the distribution centre overrun by desperate civilians trampling over toppled barriers; people flinched as sounds of gunshots rang out.
...
In a video filmed at GHF's northern site near Nuseirat on Thursday, Palestinians can be seen running away from a perimeter fence after GHF contractors threw a projectile that exploded with a loud bang, a flash and smoke.

GHF in a statement said its personnel "encountered a tense and potentially dangerous crowd that refused to disperse".

"To prevent escalation and ensure the safety of civilians and staff, non-lethal deterrents were deployed - including smoke and warning shots into the ground," it said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4g0xmem2lo

I don't think they're cheering now.

Mountainguy

(1,966 posts)
21. And that hasn't stopped them
Sat May 31, 2025, 11:22 AM
Yesterday

from handing out over 2 million meals this week, and continuing to ramp up capacity.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,775 posts)
23. But capacity is not ramping up
Sat May 31, 2025, 12:21 PM
Yesterday

From the previous article:

On Friday, only one of the four GHF sites was distributing aid. It opened for less than an hour after which GHF announced on Facebook that it had closed because all its supplies had been "fully distributed".

When asked by BBC Verify why only a single site was operational and why its boxes ran out so quickly, a GHF spokesperson said supply "will vary day by day".

Mountainguy

(1,966 posts)
24. And they'll get more supplies
Sat May 31, 2025, 12:52 PM
Yesterday

IF the UN really want to help feed people, they'd hand those supplies over to GHF to continue to distribute.

Beastly Boy

(12,489 posts)
12. That's BS
Fri May 30, 2025, 05:54 PM
Friday
“Today, a group of armed individuals stormed the warehouses at a field hospital in Deir el-Balah, looting large quantities of medical equipment, supplies, medicines, and nutritional supplements that was intended for malnourished children,” says Stephane Dujarric, spokesperson for UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres.

Dujarric also says that “yesterday, we and our humanitarian partners only managed to collect five truckloads of cargo from the Palestinian side of the Kerem Shalom crossing.” “The other 60 trucks had to return to the crossing due to intense hostilities in the area,” Dujarric adds.

An Israeli official says his country has offered the UN logistical and operational support, but “the UN is not doing their job.”

The official, who speaks on condition of anonymity because he’s not authorized to talk to the media, says other organizations have succeeded in collecting aid from the Gaza side of the Kerem Shalom crossing. The official declines to provide details on how many truckloads were collected or which organizations were able to collect them.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/un-slams-armed-individuals-who-stole-medical-supplies-from-field-hospital-warehouse-in-deir-el-balah/

It's not that the food is not allowed into Gaza. It's not that other NGOs are unable to distribute it. It's that some distribution agencies are more incompetent than others.

Mountainguy

(1,966 posts)
15. I noticed that too
Sat May 31, 2025, 02:12 AM
Yesterday

Posts on here daily about starving Gazan children.....but the moment somebody starts distributing aid without Hama being involved, it's suddenly a "scam".

muriel_volestrangler

(103,775 posts)
19. You're taking the Israeli government's word over the UN and aid organizations
Sat May 31, 2025, 10:01 AM
Yesterday

about "Hamas being involved", which seems a ridiculous thing to do.

Israel has demanded an alternative plan because it accuses Hamas of siphoning off aid. The United Nations and aid groups deny there is significant diversion. They reject the new mechanism, saying it allows Israel to use food as a weapon, violates humanitarian principles and won’t be effective.

https://apnews.com/article/gaza-humanitarian-foundation-aid-israel-distribution-hamas-e517f3dc7e73b3d52bec47ee31fc20df

Oxfam criticised the location of the GHF distribution sites, telling BBC Verify that it imposed "military control over aid operations".

Its policy adviser, Bushra Khalidi, also questioned how vulnerable people, such as the elderly, would be able to reach these sites, which are located some distance away from some population centres.

When the UN had been delivering aid before Israel's humanitarian blockade, there were 400 distribution points spread across Gaza. Under the present GHF distribution system there currently are four known sites.

"By and large, it's designed to dramatically increase the concentration of the population by having the only sources of food remaining in a very small number of places," said Chris Newton, a senior analyst at the Brussels-based think tank Crisis Group.

"You either follow all their rules and probably survive in a small radius around these sites or you are very unlikely to survive."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4g0xmem2lo

Mountainguy

(1,966 posts)
20. Israels word SHOULD be taken
Sat May 31, 2025, 11:15 AM
Yesterday

over Hamas.

Hamas wants you to believe they are victims of a genocide while they also hold hostages, reject ceasefire deals, and try to prevent people from receiving aid (in the case where they don't get all the first dibs on it).

Believe who you will,, but one side is a group of islamofascists who would happily kill you.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,775 posts)
22. Hamas is not the UN. Hamas is not an aid organization.
Sat May 31, 2025, 12:19 PM
Yesterday

I'll repeat it, this time with emphasis:

You're taking the Israeli government's word over the UN and aid organizations

muriel_volestrangler

(103,775 posts)
26. Bullshit propaganda from Netanyahu?
Sat May 31, 2025, 01:06 PM
Yesterday

It's not worth clicking on a piece of shit link like that. Shame to see it on DU.

The only government that believes Netanyahu's claims about UNRWA is Trump's. That's why all others resumed funding it.

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