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riversedge

(75,761 posts)
Thu May 29, 2025, 04:54 PM Thursday

🇨🇦 THREAD: Canada Just Declared Independence from Trump's Military Grift. And it's sending shockwaves through U.S. mi

ummm...Canada does not want to be the US 51st state ---as much as Trump believes they do!!

🇨🇦 THREAD: Canada Just Declared Independence from Trump’s Military Grift.

And it’s sending shockwaves through U.S. military and MAGA circles.










Dean Blundell🇨🇦
@ItsDeanBlundell
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@ItsDeanBlundell
Minutes after King Charles torched Trumpism in Parliament...

PM Mark Carney stood up and detonated decades of military dependence on America. 💣

His declaration?
Canada is out. Out of NORAD’s shadow. Out of Washington’s grip. Read more here:
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https://open.substack.com/pub/deanblunde

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🇨🇦 THREAD: Canada Just Declared Independence from Trump's Military Grift. And it's sending shockwaves through U.S. mi (Original Post) riversedge Thursday OP
Putin and Fox are probably having a big gut laugh about this right now. Initech Thursday #1
Canada is moving on without Trump and America. Botany Thursday #2
So is Europe. We have no friends left. Only former friends and enemies. OMGWTF Thursday #9
Yep. Save for maybe Israel (at least to an extent) and fascist Hungary. Oh...and I guess El Salvador, too. LOL Karasu Thursday #13
Don't forget South Sudan! /snark slightlv Thursday #18
I know the problems we're going to have slightlv Thursday #19
It will never be the same. Our former allies are not going to wait around to see how Wisconsin votes each year. Irish_Dem Thursday #22
All because the republican party became cowardly, treasonous scum Mysterian Thursday #23
They have been for a very, very long time. NEOBuckeye Friday #35
That's my worry. TomSlick Thursday #33
Allies cannot trust the US on any level. Irish_Dem Friday #39
Our allies aren't going to wait to see how Wisconsin votes... Grins Friday #49
More than anything, the world will never trust us again. n/t Shoeless Louis Friday #43
Absolutely. Canada is able to do this because it's now allied... ananda Friday #47
United in their hatred...of us. NM Grins Friday #50
They have no other choice. At least... ananda Friday #53
Great White North giving Krasnov a Golden Shower BoRaGard Thursday #3
Page not found? druidity33 Thursday #4
Bottom one was truncated IbogaProject Thursday #7
thanks for that link stillcool Thursday #29
WHY would ANY country trust us?? vapor2 Thursday #5
That's unfortunate... Wounded Bear Thursday #6
Every day... in every way. Lock him up!!!!! BurnDoubt Thursday #8
He's running the entire US, as well as all other countries slightlv Thursday #20
I thought Chump's gripe was with Justin Trudeau ... but that's not the case FakeNoose Friday #46
Dean Blundell exaggerates a lot of Canadian news. Carney said we have options and is looking to Bev54 Thursday #10
Yup. Here's the version from the CBC, sans hyperbole: sl8 Thursday #11
Yes thank you. I would caution readers on DU about posting this guy without checking first. Bev54 Thursday #12
I did not post this article for that reason. I listened to Carney's interview and speech and he is much less inflamatory Amaryllis Thursday #14
Carney kicks fascist ass, period DoBW Thursday #17
Can't say I blame him. Captain Zero Friday #54
This is not going to make the defense corps happy! slightlv Thursday #21
I've been thinking along the same lines. sl8 Thursday #24
Krasnov is going to annoy the wrong industries. ChazInAz Friday #40
Or have someone pay close attention to what's being done slightlv Friday #48
Donny the dumbass wrecks a good working relationship over a century old Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Thursday #15
Oh Canada.... Ol Janx Spirit Thursday #16
Thank you, Canada. republianmushroom Thursday #25
Well, just look for Trump to reply by bombing Canada and blaming immigrants. nt Jit423 Thursday #26
Did not trump Traildogbob Thursday #27
A country would be foolish to buy military hardware from Trump's America. Like the F-35 Norrrm Thursday #28
Fatass 45 will probably declare that without NORAD to track Santa at Christmas, beautiful little 11 year old jls4561 Thursday #30
I predicted this (sorta) usonian Thursday #31
They may still sabotage the Tesla tanks, there's still plenty of time FakeNoose Friday #45
EU entry referendum in Canada in 5 years. roamer65 Thursday #32
The damage Trump did, and is still doing, to the US will take decades to repair, if ever can completely be repaired. patphil Thursday #34
Totally agree, Mtnmama Friday #36
Train Mtnmama Friday #37
I won't give up ... Mtnmama Friday #38
This is so sad. travelingthrulife Friday #41
Interesting part about the fighter planes SpankMe Friday #42
Kick for Canada! liberalla Friday #44
Nicely done as usual, Canada. Paladin Friday #51
King Charles toTSF: See that mountain. MINE! That lake: MINE! Fichefinder Friday #52

Botany

(74,283 posts)
2. Canada is moving on without Trump and America.
Thu May 29, 2025, 05:05 PM
Thursday

Mark Carney’s message to Trump:
“We don’t need a damn thing from the United States.”

Karasu

(1,262 posts)
13. Yep. Save for maybe Israel (at least to an extent) and fascist Hungary. Oh...and I guess El Salvador, too. LOL
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:05 PM
Thursday

Last edited Thu May 29, 2025, 07:57 PM - Edit history (1)

slightlv

(5,602 posts)
19. I know the problems we're going to have
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:32 PM
Thursday

repairing these alliances. Damn trump and the stupid magas. Since they didn't like the way the Constitution set out for our government to run and despised democracy, we should have loaded ALL of them up (along with the tech bros) and shipped them off to either Russia or Hungary. That's my opinion and I'm not moving from it (gryn).

Irish_Dem

(70,218 posts)
22. It will never be the same. Our former allies are not going to wait around to see how Wisconsin votes each year.
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:49 PM
Thursday

Our allies know things can change dramatically in the blink of an eye.

The American voters can not to be trusted to do the right thing.
Congress and the judicial system are failures.

Mysterian

(5,636 posts)
23. All because the republican party became cowardly, treasonous scum
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:55 PM
Thursday

and the weak-minded masses swooned for a make-up splattered con man.

NEOBuckeye

(2,876 posts)
35. They have been for a very, very long time.
Fri May 30, 2025, 01:14 AM
Friday

They just aren't pretending anymore. And it's coming at great cost to the nation they profess to care so much about.

But we know that they don't. And the rest of the world is seeing this now as well. The only ones still clueless are the MAGAts themselves.

Irish_Dem

(70,218 posts)
39. Allies cannot trust the US on any level.
Fri May 30, 2025, 06:01 AM
Friday

The US will not have their backs.
Sensitive information cannot be shared, it will be sold to enemies.

The US will threaten to invade or tariff them. Or any number of threats.
Visitors to this country could be jailed.
Leaders who visit the US will be humiliated or threatened in the Oval Office.
Bribes will be demanded.

The American voter, congress, and the judiciary will endorse it all or look the other way.
Or have no power at all.

Let's say one of your best long term friends did this to you.
Would you ever trust that friend again?

Grins

(8,410 posts)
49. Our allies aren't going to wait to see how Wisconsin votes...
Fri May 30, 2025, 04:58 PM
Friday

Terrific line.
Stealing it!

ananda

(31,891 posts)
47. Absolutely. Canada is able to do this because it's now allied...
Fri May 30, 2025, 01:51 PM
Friday

with many other countries banding against Trump.

Good!

ananda

(31,891 posts)
53. They have no other choice. At least...
Fri May 30, 2025, 09:51 PM
Friday

it's nice to know that people in other countries
have come together and moved to the left.

BoRaGard

(5,624 posts)
3. Great White North giving Krasnov a Golden Shower
Thu May 29, 2025, 05:15 PM
Thursday

Piss people off by being a raging bully a-hole republicon,
and invariably they will piss all over your fantasy Golden Dome.

druidity33

(6,728 posts)
4. Page not found?
Thu May 29, 2025, 05:22 PM
Thursday

Substack link appears to be broken...

on edit... the top link works... the one at the end of your post doesn't.

stillcool

(33,940 posts)
29. thanks for that link
Thu May 29, 2025, 09:22 PM
Thursday

much better at explaining what exactly was said. I especially liked this part


The Carney Doctrine is clear:
"We don’t need a damn thing from the United States. We’re doing this with better partners, on better terms, and for the right reasons."

Wounded Bear

(62,053 posts)
6. That's unfortunate...
Thu May 29, 2025, 05:46 PM
Thursday

We really do need a friend on our northern border, but trump doesn't know how to treat friends because he doesn't have any. His personal foibles are making the entire nation less safe and secure.

slightlv

(5,602 posts)
20. He's running the entire US, as well as all other countries
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:35 PM
Thursday

like they were subjects in his businesses. That rarely works well in business, let alone in diplomatic circles! People and countries don't like to be dissed by a raging demented asshole. They seem to take umbrage at that... gee... I wonder why?! Could it be they're decent, civil people who have no desire to mingle with barbarians?!

FakeNoose

(37,490 posts)
46. I thought Chump's gripe was with Justin Trudeau ... but that's not the case
Fri May 30, 2025, 12:48 PM
Friday

Chump is just an asshole towards every one of our former friends and allies.

Bev54

(12,468 posts)
10. Dean Blundell exaggerates a lot of Canadian news. Carney said we have options and is looking to
Thu May 29, 2025, 06:57 PM
Thursday

Europe for more defence partnerships and has already partnered with Australia on some. Canada is still committed to NORAD and has not made any statements to the contrary. We will certainly go with what works best but I would take this guys declarations with a grain of salt and fact check his statements. There was no huge announcement, Carney has been saying this since he ran for leadership.

sl8

(16,543 posts)
11. Yup. Here's the version from the CBC, sans hyperbole:
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:03 PM
Thursday
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rearm-europe-deal-canada-carney-interview-1.7545303

Carney says Canada is looking to join major European military buildup by July 1

'By Canada Day we'd like to see something concrete there,' PM tells Power & Politics

Murray Brewster · CBC News · Posted: May 27, 2025 4:43 PM EDT | Last Updated: May 27

Prime Minister Mark Carney signalled he hopes Canada will be able to sign on to a major European defence rearmament plan by July 1, a step toward reducing the country's dependency on the United States for weapons and munitions.

He made the remarks on CBC's Power & Politics following the speech from the throne, which committed his government to joining ReArm Europe.

The speech did not set out a timeline, but Carney said he wants to move aggressively.

"Seventy-five cents of every dollar of capital spending for defence goes to the United States. That's not smart," Carney told host David Cochrane.

[...]


Bev54

(12,468 posts)
12. Yes thank you. I would caution readers on DU about posting this guy without checking first.
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:05 PM
Thursday

Amaryllis

(10,385 posts)
14. I did not post this article for that reason. I listened to Carney's interview and speech and he is much less inflamatory
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:18 PM
Thursday

Leaving some room. So i appreciate your thoughts. I only ran across him about a week ago and wondered what his deal was because he is so inflammatory. Carney is firm and doesn't take to be pushed around but he is also very diplomatic..

slightlv

(5,602 posts)
21. This is not going to make the defense corps happy!
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:37 PM
Thursday
a step toward reducing the country's dependency on the United States for weapons and munitions.


He's messing with their bread and butter now! First, take away their contractors and then take away their business. I've seen more than a few defense companies go out of business here in LV over the last few years. I expect to see more of it, too.

sl8

(16,543 posts)
24. I've been thinking along the same lines.
Thu May 29, 2025, 08:22 PM
Thursday

The defense industry in this country is influential, to put it mildly, and I can't imagine they're pleased with all the foreign countries rethinking who they want to buy their weapons from.

ChazInAz

(2,915 posts)
40. Krasnov is going to annoy the wrong industries.
Fri May 30, 2025, 10:17 AM
Friday

Since they own him, he'd better watch his back.

slightlv

(5,602 posts)
48. Or have someone pay close attention to what's being done
Fri May 30, 2025, 04:35 PM
Friday

to modify that jet bribe. He might want to let someone in his staff fly in it a few times first. /snark

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(123,772 posts)
15. Donny the dumbass wrecks a good working relationship over a century old
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:24 PM
Thursday

Yet around 40% of the country think he's doing a great job.

Traildogbob

(11,251 posts)
27. Did not trump
Thu May 29, 2025, 09:06 PM
Thursday

Just rant about us being the hottest country in the world? The Saudi king told HIM we were?
That we were dead cold 6 months ago? With that brilliant Fox Judge standing behind sucking up the lies? Is that Judge like behavior?

Norrrm

(1,708 posts)
28. A country would be foolish to buy military hardware from Trump's America. Like the F-35
Thu May 29, 2025, 09:22 PM
Thursday

Trump could shut off parts and training on his whims.

jls4561

(2,379 posts)
30. Fatass 45 will probably declare that without NORAD to track Santa at Christmas, beautiful little 11 year old
Thu May 29, 2025, 09:42 PM
Thursday

Canadian girls won’t get their two dolls under the tree.

I used to love the Santa tracker. Still do.

usonian

(17,964 posts)
31. I predicted this (sorta)
Thu May 29, 2025, 10:12 PM
Thursday

2025 fearless predictions

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=393780

2. Canada defeats the US. Elon at fault.

2025 Fearless Prediction Number 2. America loses war with Canada when CyberTanks are bricked with a software update.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219867240

FakeNoose

(37,490 posts)
45. They may still sabotage the Tesla tanks, there's still plenty of time
Fri May 30, 2025, 12:43 PM
Friday

... and they have oodles of maple syrup.

patphil

(7,877 posts)
34. The damage Trump did, and is still doing, to the US will take decades to repair, if ever can completely be repaired.
Thu May 29, 2025, 11:17 PM
Thursday

The trust and respect the whole world had for the US is gone.
History will judge Trump as not only the worst President ever, but will unmask him as a truly despicable human being.
This indictment of Trump will show him to be, not just greedy and incompetent, but also totally lacking in moral fiber.

Mtnmama

(41 posts)
36. Totally agree,
Fri May 30, 2025, 04:00 AM
Friday

But also, it seems to me, very psychologically ill. There is something terribly wrong with his ability to accept anything other than total allegiance and capitulation to him.

SpankMe

(3,480 posts)
42. Interesting part about the fighter planes
Fri May 30, 2025, 10:37 AM
Friday
Carney has also put the U.S. F-35 fighter jet deal under review. Instead, he’s eyeing Swedish Saab Gripen jets — and get this: they’d be built in Canada. That’s right. Jobs, tech, pride, and air superiority without a single U.S. asterisk.


If Canada drops US fighters for Swedish ones, and builds them in Canada, this will represent a major domino-fall for US military superiority.

Paladin

(30,580 posts)
51. Nicely done as usual, Canada.
Fri May 30, 2025, 05:10 PM
Friday

Must be nice, still living in a country that doesn't cause you to be ashamed, every day.

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