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riversedge

(77,491 posts)
Thu May 29, 2025, 04:54 PM May 2025

🇨🇦 THREAD: Canada Just Declared Independence from Trump's Military Grift. And it's sending shockwaves through U.S. mi

ummm...Canada does not want to be the US 51st state ---as much as Trump believes they do!!

🇨🇦 THREAD: Canada Just Declared Independence from Trump’s Military Grift.

And it’s sending shockwaves through U.S. military and MAGA circles.










Dean Blundell🇨🇦
@ItsDeanBlundell
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Replying to
@ItsDeanBlundell
Minutes after King Charles torched Trumpism in Parliament...

PM Mark Carney stood up and detonated decades of military dependence on America. 💣

His declaration?
Canada is out. Out of NORAD’s shadow. Out of Washington’s grip. Read more here:
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https://open.substack.com/pub/deanblunde

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🇨🇦 THREAD: Canada Just Declared Independence from Trump's Military Grift. And it's sending shockwaves through U.S. mi (Original Post) riversedge May 2025 OP
Putin and Fox are probably having a big gut laugh about this right now. Initech May 2025 #1
Canada is moving on without Trump and America. Botany May 2025 #2
So is Europe. We have no friends left. Only former friends and enemies. OMGWTF May 2025 #9
Yep. Save for maybe Israel (at least to an extent) and fascist Hungary. Oh...and I guess El Salvador, too. LOL Karasu May 2025 #13
Don't forget South Sudan! /snark slightlv May 2025 #18
I know the problems we're going to have slightlv May 2025 #19
It will never be the same. Our former allies are not going to wait around to see how Wisconsin votes each year. Irish_Dem May 2025 #22
All because the republican party became cowardly, treasonous scum Mysterian May 2025 #23
They have been for a very, very long time. NEOBuckeye May 2025 #35
That's my worry. TomSlick May 2025 #33
Allies cannot trust the US on any level. Irish_Dem May 2025 #39
Our allies aren't going to wait to see how Wisconsin votes... Grins May 2025 #49
More than anything, the world will never trust us again. n/t Shoeless Louis May 2025 #43
Absolutely. Canada is able to do this because it's now allied... ananda May 2025 #47
United in their hatred...of us. NM Grins May 2025 #50
They have no other choice. At least... ananda May 2025 #53
Great White North giving Krasnov a Golden Shower BoRaGard May 2025 #3
Page not found? druidity33 May 2025 #4
Bottom one was truncated IbogaProject May 2025 #7
thanks for that link stillcool May 2025 #29
WHY would ANY country trust us?? vapor2 May 2025 #5
That's unfortunate... Wounded Bear May 2025 #6
Every day... in every way. Lock him up!!!!! BurnDoubt May 2025 #8
He's running the entire US, as well as all other countries slightlv May 2025 #20
I thought Chump's gripe was with Justin Trudeau ... but that's not the case FakeNoose May 2025 #46
Dean Blundell exaggerates a lot of Canadian news. Carney said we have options and is looking to Bev54 May 2025 #10
Yup. Here's the version from the CBC, sans hyperbole: sl8 May 2025 #11
Yes thank you. I would caution readers on DU about posting this guy without checking first. Bev54 May 2025 #12
I did not post this article for that reason. I listened to Carney's interview and speech and he is much less inflamatory Amaryllis May 2025 #14
Carney kicks fascist ass, period DoBW May 2025 #17
Can't say I blame him. Captain Zero May 2025 #54
This is not going to make the defense corps happy! slightlv May 2025 #21
I've been thinking along the same lines. sl8 May 2025 #24
Krasnov is going to annoy the wrong industries. ChazInAz May 2025 #40
Or have someone pay close attention to what's being done slightlv May 2025 #48
Donny the dumbass wrecks a good working relationship over a century old Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2025 #15
Oh Canada.... Ol Janx Spirit May 2025 #16
Thank you, Canada. republianmushroom May 2025 #25
Well, just look for Trump to reply by bombing Canada and blaming immigrants. nt Jit423 May 2025 #26
Did not trump Traildogbob May 2025 #27
A country would be foolish to buy military hardware from Trump's America. Like the F-35 Norrrm May 2025 #28
Fatass 45 will probably declare that without NORAD to track Santa at Christmas, beautiful little 11 year old jls4561 May 2025 #30
I predicted this (sorta) usonian May 2025 #31
They may still sabotage the Tesla tanks, there's still plenty of time FakeNoose May 2025 #45
EU entry referendum in Canada in 5 years. roamer65 May 2025 #32
The damage Trump did, and is still doing, to the US will take decades to repair, if ever can completely be repaired. patphil May 2025 #34
Totally agree, Mtnmama May 2025 #36
Train Mtnmama May 2025 #37
I won't give up ... Mtnmama May 2025 #38
This is so sad. travelingthrulife May 2025 #41
Interesting part about the fighter planes SpankMe May 2025 #42
Kick for Canada! liberalla May 2025 #44
Nicely done as usual, Canada. Paladin May 2025 #51
King Charles toTSF: See that mountain. MINE! That lake: MINE! Fichefinder May 2025 #52

Botany

(75,159 posts)
2. Canada is moving on without Trump and America.
Thu May 29, 2025, 05:05 PM
May 2025

Mark Carney’s message to Trump:
“We don’t need a damn thing from the United States.”

Karasu

(1,922 posts)
13. Yep. Save for maybe Israel (at least to an extent) and fascist Hungary. Oh...and I guess El Salvador, too. LOL
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:05 PM
May 2025

Last edited Thu May 29, 2025, 07:57 PM - Edit history (1)

slightlv

(6,493 posts)
19. I know the problems we're going to have
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:32 PM
May 2025

repairing these alliances. Damn trump and the stupid magas. Since they didn't like the way the Constitution set out for our government to run and despised democracy, we should have loaded ALL of them up (along with the tech bros) and shipped them off to either Russia or Hungary. That's my opinion and I'm not moving from it (gryn).

Irish_Dem

(73,711 posts)
22. It will never be the same. Our former allies are not going to wait around to see how Wisconsin votes each year.
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:49 PM
May 2025

Our allies know things can change dramatically in the blink of an eye.

The American voters can not to be trusted to do the right thing.
Congress and the judicial system are failures.

Mysterian

(5,879 posts)
23. All because the republican party became cowardly, treasonous scum
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:55 PM
May 2025

and the weak-minded masses swooned for a make-up splattered con man.

NEOBuckeye

(2,896 posts)
35. They have been for a very, very long time.
Fri May 30, 2025, 01:14 AM
May 2025

They just aren't pretending anymore. And it's coming at great cost to the nation they profess to care so much about.

But we know that they don't. And the rest of the world is seeing this now as well. The only ones still clueless are the MAGAts themselves.

Irish_Dem

(73,711 posts)
39. Allies cannot trust the US on any level.
Fri May 30, 2025, 06:01 AM
May 2025

The US will not have their backs.
Sensitive information cannot be shared, it will be sold to enemies.

The US will threaten to invade or tariff them. Or any number of threats.
Visitors to this country could be jailed.
Leaders who visit the US will be humiliated or threatened in the Oval Office.
Bribes will be demanded.

The American voter, congress, and the judiciary will endorse it all or look the other way.
Or have no power at all.

Let's say one of your best long term friends did this to you.
Would you ever trust that friend again?

Grins

(8,787 posts)
49. Our allies aren't going to wait to see how Wisconsin votes...
Fri May 30, 2025, 04:58 PM
May 2025

Terrific line.
Stealing it!

ananda

(32,934 posts)
47. Absolutely. Canada is able to do this because it's now allied...
Fri May 30, 2025, 01:51 PM
May 2025

with many other countries banding against Trump.

Good!

ananda

(32,934 posts)
53. They have no other choice. At least...
Fri May 30, 2025, 09:51 PM
May 2025

it's nice to know that people in other countries
have come together and moved to the left.

BoRaGard

(7,245 posts)
3. Great White North giving Krasnov a Golden Shower
Thu May 29, 2025, 05:15 PM
May 2025

Piss people off by being a raging bully a-hole republicon,
and invariably they will piss all over your fantasy Golden Dome.

druidity33

(6,813 posts)
4. Page not found?
Thu May 29, 2025, 05:22 PM
May 2025

Substack link appears to be broken...

on edit... the top link works... the one at the end of your post doesn't.

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
29. thanks for that link
Thu May 29, 2025, 09:22 PM
May 2025

much better at explaining what exactly was said. I especially liked this part


The Carney Doctrine is clear:
"We don’t need a damn thing from the United States. We’re doing this with better partners, on better terms, and for the right reasons."

Wounded Bear

(62,842 posts)
6. That's unfortunate...
Thu May 29, 2025, 05:46 PM
May 2025

We really do need a friend on our northern border, but trump doesn't know how to treat friends because he doesn't have any. His personal foibles are making the entire nation less safe and secure.

slightlv

(6,493 posts)
20. He's running the entire US, as well as all other countries
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:35 PM
May 2025

like they were subjects in his businesses. That rarely works well in business, let alone in diplomatic circles! People and countries don't like to be dissed by a raging demented asshole. They seem to take umbrage at that... gee... I wonder why?! Could it be they're decent, civil people who have no desire to mingle with barbarians?!

FakeNoose

(38,454 posts)
46. I thought Chump's gripe was with Justin Trudeau ... but that's not the case
Fri May 30, 2025, 12:48 PM
May 2025

Chump is just an asshole towards every one of our former friends and allies.

Bev54

(12,796 posts)
10. Dean Blundell exaggerates a lot of Canadian news. Carney said we have options and is looking to
Thu May 29, 2025, 06:57 PM
May 2025

Europe for more defence partnerships and has already partnered with Australia on some. Canada is still committed to NORAD and has not made any statements to the contrary. We will certainly go with what works best but I would take this guys declarations with a grain of salt and fact check his statements. There was no huge announcement, Carney has been saying this since he ran for leadership.

sl8

(16,740 posts)
11. Yup. Here's the version from the CBC, sans hyperbole:
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:03 PM
May 2025
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rearm-europe-deal-canada-carney-interview-1.7545303

Carney says Canada is looking to join major European military buildup by July 1

'By Canada Day we'd like to see something concrete there,' PM tells Power & Politics

Murray Brewster · CBC News · Posted: May 27, 2025 4:43 PM EDT | Last Updated: May 27

Prime Minister Mark Carney signalled he hopes Canada will be able to sign on to a major European defence rearmament plan by July 1, a step toward reducing the country's dependency on the United States for weapons and munitions.

He made the remarks on CBC's Power & Politics following the speech from the throne, which committed his government to joining ReArm Europe.

The speech did not set out a timeline, but Carney said he wants to move aggressively.

"Seventy-five cents of every dollar of capital spending for defence goes to the United States. That's not smart," Carney told host David Cochrane.

[...]


Bev54

(12,796 posts)
12. Yes thank you. I would caution readers on DU about posting this guy without checking first.
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:05 PM
May 2025

Amaryllis

(10,648 posts)
14. I did not post this article for that reason. I listened to Carney's interview and speech and he is much less inflamatory
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:18 PM
May 2025

Leaving some room. So i appreciate your thoughts. I only ran across him about a week ago and wondered what his deal was because he is so inflammatory. Carney is firm and doesn't take to be pushed around but he is also very diplomatic..

slightlv

(6,493 posts)
21. This is not going to make the defense corps happy!
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:37 PM
May 2025
a step toward reducing the country's dependency on the United States for weapons and munitions.


He's messing with their bread and butter now! First, take away their contractors and then take away their business. I've seen more than a few defense companies go out of business here in LV over the last few years. I expect to see more of it, too.

sl8

(16,740 posts)
24. I've been thinking along the same lines.
Thu May 29, 2025, 08:22 PM
May 2025

The defense industry in this country is influential, to put it mildly, and I can't imagine they're pleased with all the foreign countries rethinking who they want to buy their weapons from.

ChazInAz

(2,952 posts)
40. Krasnov is going to annoy the wrong industries.
Fri May 30, 2025, 10:17 AM
May 2025

Since they own him, he'd better watch his back.

slightlv

(6,493 posts)
48. Or have someone pay close attention to what's being done
Fri May 30, 2025, 04:35 PM
May 2025

to modify that jet bribe. He might want to let someone in his staff fly in it a few times first. /snark

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(127,978 posts)
15. Donny the dumbass wrecks a good working relationship over a century old
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:24 PM
May 2025

Yet around 40% of the country think he's doing a great job.

Traildogbob

(11,728 posts)
27. Did not trump
Thu May 29, 2025, 09:06 PM
May 2025

Just rant about us being the hottest country in the world? The Saudi king told HIM we were?
That we were dead cold 6 months ago? With that brilliant Fox Judge standing behind sucking up the lies? Is that Judge like behavior?

Norrrm

(2,823 posts)
28. A country would be foolish to buy military hardware from Trump's America. Like the F-35
Thu May 29, 2025, 09:22 PM
May 2025

Trump could shut off parts and training on his whims.

jls4561

(2,658 posts)
30. Fatass 45 will probably declare that without NORAD to track Santa at Christmas, beautiful little 11 year old
Thu May 29, 2025, 09:42 PM
May 2025

Canadian girls won’t get their two dolls under the tree.

I used to love the Santa tracker. Still do.

usonian

(20,002 posts)
31. I predicted this (sorta)
Thu May 29, 2025, 10:12 PM
May 2025

2025 fearless predictions

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=393780

2. Canada defeats the US. Elon at fault.

2025 Fearless Prediction Number 2. America loses war with Canada when CyberTanks are bricked with a software update.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219867240

FakeNoose

(38,454 posts)
45. They may still sabotage the Tesla tanks, there's still plenty of time
Fri May 30, 2025, 12:43 PM
May 2025

... and they have oodles of maple syrup.

patphil

(8,202 posts)
34. The damage Trump did, and is still doing, to the US will take decades to repair, if ever can completely be repaired.
Thu May 29, 2025, 11:17 PM
May 2025

The trust and respect the whole world had for the US is gone.
History will judge Trump as not only the worst President ever, but will unmask him as a truly despicable human being.
This indictment of Trump will show him to be, not just greedy and incompetent, but also totally lacking in moral fiber.

Mtnmama

(87 posts)
36. Totally agree,
Fri May 30, 2025, 04:00 AM
May 2025

But also, it seems to me, very psychologically ill. There is something terribly wrong with his ability to accept anything other than total allegiance and capitulation to him.

SpankMe

(3,575 posts)
42. Interesting part about the fighter planes
Fri May 30, 2025, 10:37 AM
May 2025
Carney has also put the U.S. F-35 fighter jet deal under review. Instead, he’s eyeing Swedish Saab Gripen jets — and get this: they’d be built in Canada. That’s right. Jobs, tech, pride, and air superiority without a single U.S. asterisk.


If Canada drops US fighters for Swedish ones, and builds them in Canada, this will represent a major domino-fall for US military superiority.

Paladin

(31,503 posts)
51. Nicely done as usual, Canada.
Fri May 30, 2025, 05:10 PM
May 2025

Must be nice, still living in a country that doesn't cause you to be ashamed, every day.

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