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MineralMan

(149,151 posts)
Mon May 26, 2025, 11:08 AM Monday

My Wife and I, along with a friend of hers, went to Ft. Snelling National Cemetery

yesterday. We visited my wife's father's gravesite and the gravesite of the grandfather of another friend of hers. I would like to have visited my father and mother's gravesite, but that is in California.

Ft. Snelling was crowded with people yesterday. It's more crowded today. People paying their respects to relatives who served in the U.S. Military. Every year they come to do that, which makes an incredible amount of sense.

So, this morning, I read Donald J. Trump's nasty, all-caps diatribe which served as his Memorial Day tribute. The thing is that he has no family members who were veterans of the U.S or any other military. To Trump, veterans are just losers who couldn't get out of serving. Trump, himself, avoided service in the Vietnam War era, the time when I did my four years in the USAF. For him, military service is stupid. Why would anyone do that? he wonders.

And yet, The Ft. Snelling National Cemetery is busy this weekend - full of people who understand the service given by people in their own families, and often by themselves. Trump does not understand that at all. That is why he is an angry, vicious man who has nothing but contempt for those who serve.

More's the pity.

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My Wife and I, along with a friend of hers, went to Ft. Snelling National Cemetery (Original Post) MineralMan Monday OP
My husband's Internment is scheduled for July 29th there. ProudMNDemocrat Monday #1
I'm sorry about your loss. Truly. MineralMan Monday #2
Happy Birthday early, MM. ProudMNDemocrat Monday #14
A heroic generation. MineralMan Monday #18
Wow BonnieJW Monday #15
Just as mine was getting out. He had a job waiting for him in San Jose with IBM. ProudMNDemocrat Monday #17
. BoRaGard Monday #3
When my husband and I lived in DC, we went often to Arlington Cemetery. It's such a allegorical oracle Monday #4
Just above on the hill is Arlington House... ProudMNDemocrat Monday #16
K&R. Great post MM! bronxiteforever Monday #5
Thanks! MineralMan Monday #9
Thanks! MineralMan Monday #10
Thank you for your service Mblaze Monday #6
And to you for yours! MineralMan Monday #11
I have been to Fort Snelling two times while I lived in Mpls......somber yet uplifting because we riversedge Monday #7
Thanks for posting this, MineralMan! highplainsdem Monday #8
If you have never been to a federal cemetery... Grins Monday #12
I was at Ft. Snelling Cemetary 2 weeks ago Joe Nation Monday #13

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,645 posts)
1. My husband's Internment is scheduled for July 29th there.
Mon May 26, 2025, 11:21 AM
Monday

What is a sight to see is Arlington National Cemetery over Memorial Weekend.

It was 1984 when I was first there with friends. For as far as the eye could see amidst the rolling Virginia hills from Arlington House, were acres of white headstones and flags at each grave site. I went again in November during my monthly visit to the NIH.

On Phil's DD 214 was 3 years, 11 months, and 27 days when he was in the USAF, discharged with honors from Travis AFB in July of 1966.

MineralMan

(149,151 posts)
2. I'm sorry about your loss. Truly.
Mon May 26, 2025, 11:29 AM
Monday

I served in the USAF from 1965-9. No fighting. No action. Just doing what the USAF thought I should be doing during that time. My father was a B-17 pilot in WWII. My wife's father served in WWII and the Korean War as a hospital worker.

All those white headstones always give me pause. So carefully aligned in tightly ordered rows that can be seen from any angle you look. All of those people who gave their time or even their lives to serve their country. It should give anyone pause. I think that is the point of our National Cemeteries.

I will think of you and your husband on that date, which will be my 80th birthday.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,645 posts)
14. Happy Birthday early, MM.
Mon May 26, 2025, 01:32 PM
Monday

My Great-Uncle Tony Daverse was a Ball Turret Gunner on a B-17 crew during WWII.

On a flight home in early December of 1944 for Sympathy leave of several crew members, his plane was shot down over the Bering Strait by the Japanese enroute to Anchorage for refueling. There were no survivors.

Whenever I see a B-17 in a museum, I look for the spot below the fuselage where Uncle Tony would have been. He was tiny enough to fit into that cramped space. He was my Mother's favorite Uncle. My husband was 80.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,645 posts)
17. Just as mine was getting out. He had a job waiting for him in San Jose with IBM.
Mon May 26, 2025, 01:43 PM
Monday

His Commanding Officer asked if he would be interested in re-upping for 2 years. Phil declined. He saw the planes coming in from Vietnam via Hawaii (Graves Registration) unloading the metal caskets of the fallen. His brother Larry was with the 3rd Battalion, 9th Marines in I Corp in Vietnam before and after the Tet Offensive in early February of 1968.

allegorical oracle

(5,018 posts)
4. When my husband and I lived in DC, we went often to Arlington Cemetery. It's such a
Mon May 26, 2025, 11:46 AM
Monday

beautiful, peaceful place. Didn't expect it, but on my first visit to Kennedy's grave, I teared up. Many tourists don't think to visit there, but it's really a lovely, moving experience.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,645 posts)
16. Just above on the hill is Arlington House...
Mon May 26, 2025, 01:36 PM
Monday

I toured that in 1984 on my 2nd visit to Arlington National Cemetery around the time of Veteran's day. That was the ancestral home of Martha Washington. The sprawling estate as a plantation as well.

Visited the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial as well. Another somber place of remembrance.

Mblaze

(572 posts)
6. Thank you for your service
Mon May 26, 2025, 12:02 PM
Monday

I was 1A directly out of high school (pre-lottery) and was a conscientious objector which did me no good since I wasn't associated with a church. I decided to enlist in the USAF to avoid going to Viet Nam and it worked.

My father served in Italy during WWII and survived. My mother's first husband was killed in the Battle of the Bulge.

riversedge

(75,782 posts)
7. I have been to Fort Snelling two times while I lived in Mpls......somber yet uplifting because we
Mon May 26, 2025, 12:02 PM
Monday

still have men and women who want to serve.

May you and your family fave peace.

highplainsdem

(56,294 posts)
8. Thanks for posting this, MineralMan!
Mon May 26, 2025, 12:39 PM
Monday

So many DUers served, or have family members who served, in the military. Trump seems completely oblivious to what that means.

Both my brothers served, one in Vietnam. Almost all my uncles who were old enough to enlist served in WWII. One was a B-24 pilot whose bomber was shot down and he became a POW. My only uncles who didn't serve in WWII were my mom's only brother, who was needed to help my grandfather with farming, and my youngest uncle, who later was career military, a colonel, and a military consultant after retiring. My dad lied about his age to enlist during WWII, and he also served during the Korean War. My sister's first husband had been a pilot in Vietnam. My mom's first love enlisted at the start of WWII and died in combat.

Grins

(8,414 posts)
12. If you have never been to a federal cemetery...
Mon May 26, 2025, 01:12 PM
Monday

…find the time to go. Now, and maybe around Armistice Day (I’m old school) in November are the best times.

Arlington Cemetery is a must, but others around the country are eye opening.

A few years ago I had time to kill 2-days after Decoration Day (See? Old school.) and thought I’d stop - for just a few minutes - at the veterans cemetery near Joint Base Otis on Cape Cod.

“A few minutes” became almost 2 hours. Stunned how beautiful it was.

There’s probably one not too far from you. Go see it!

Joe Nation

(1,092 posts)
13. I was at Ft. Snelling Cemetary 2 weeks ago
Mon May 26, 2025, 01:13 PM
Monday

My wife and I laid flowers on my mom and dad's graves. I hadn't been there since they died. I told them that I was happy. I hope they heard me.

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