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Pototan

(2,644 posts)
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:50 AM May 23

Amy Coney Barrett will piss off Trump

Justice Barrett will continue to annoy MAGA world and Donald Trump. Oh, she'll piss us off on occasion, also.

You see, they rushed Barrett onto the court out of necessity after the death of Justice Ginsburg. I believe she's not as loyal to Trump, personally, as he would like. She was well known to be a religious zealot and anti-choice. But when it comes to bending over backwards to protect Trump or destroy our Constitution, she is proving less than an automatic MAGA vote, like Alito or Thomas. She seems to be siding more and more with Roberts, and they are forming some sort of right of center 2 person swing block.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm an old fashioned Democratic Liberal, cut from the old Earl Warren, Thurgood Marshall, RBG school of Judicial review.

And, although I would prefer another strong Liberal Justice, Barrett may prove just a bit more of a pain in the ass for Trump than I originally anticipated.

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Amy Coney Barrett will piss off Trump (Original Post) Pototan May 23 OP
Yes, probably more than once!!!! elleng May 23 #1
Her politics resemble Pototan May 23 #2
No way to know her 'politics.' She seems to be too smart to enable politics to enter her Court votes. elleng May 23 #5
Maybe not politics, but "opinions" Pototan May 23 #8
Why do i not find that ressuring MadameButterfly May 23 #11
Look. What do you think Pototan May 23 #19
Perhaps Barrett is tRump's Justice Souter (who passed away recently). . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 23 #3
Seems about correct. elleng May 23 #6
We should be that lucky.. seems to me, at least, shes not inclined to let Volaris May 23 #7
Maybe she signed up to be a right wing judge in a democracy MadameButterfly May 23 #12
That's the point of the OP Pototan May 23 #24
Yes, I am agreeing with you and MadameButterfly May 24 #29
Best-case scenario . . . . hatrack May 23 #22
I doubt that one recusal will translate into more of the same. live love laugh May 23 #4
She's no Aileen Cannon yliza May 23 #9
Let's just lpray that Thomas won't want to retire and bask in the luxury MadameButterfly May 23 #13
Freepers have hated her for awhile now Kaleva May 23 #10
Kavanaugh? What did Kavanaugh do? MadameButterfly May 23 #15
He occasionally votes with the liberals on the Court Kaleva May 23 #20
My husband keeps saying the same thing. Anti-abortion she may be, but she is proving to be ... Hekate May 23 #14
This is the pernicious nature of a lifetime appointment MadameButterfly May 23 #16
She's pissed off all democrats on Thursday, with a decision to allow Trump to fire agency heads at will muriel_volestrangler May 23 #17
A provision in the proposed budget that passed in the house, limits the ability Emile May 23 #18
Courts may not find that provision Constitutional Kaleva May 23 #21
Good Patton French May 23 #23
It appears that the only SC Justices who consistently back Trump are two whom he did not appoint Jose Garcia May 23 #25
The side eye she gave Trump Mz Pip May 23 #26
I wouldn't rush to judgment (no pun intended)... appmanga May 23 #27
She will be summarily removed from the bench along with all of the traitor MAGA scum on the court Basso8vb May 23 #28
Ummm how is that supposed to happen fujiyamasan May 24 #31
Yes, this is what I'm seeing fujiyamasan May 24 #30

Pototan

(2,644 posts)
2. Her politics resemble
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:01 AM
May 23

Mike Pence's more than Donald Trump. Pence may not be my cup of tea and I may disagree with him on 90% of the issues, but I'll take his ethics over Trump's any day.

elleng

(139,614 posts)
5. No way to know her 'politics.' She seems to be too smart to enable politics to enter her Court votes.
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:12 AM
May 23

Pototan

(2,644 posts)
8. Maybe not politics, but "opinions"
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:51 AM
May 23

Anti Choice, strong religious tendencies. Her recent recusal on an issue that she supports, causing its defeat does say something about her ethics. I could see Pence do something like that. Her Constitutional ethics resemble Pence's.

Pototan

(2,644 posts)
19. Look. What do you think
Fri May 23, 2025, 05:42 AM
May 23

you're going to get from a Trump appointment and a Republican Senate?

Our Democracy is hanging by a thread. Barrett and Roberts may be the only thing keeping us from Descending into a full-scale dictatorship.

We can only play the cards that are dealt us. A Republican House and Senate (Article 1), a Republican Presidency (Article 2), a super majority (6-3) Republican appointed Supreme Court (Article 3). The American voters, in all their wisdom, have dealt us a pair of deuces. All we can hope is that hand holds up.

Volaris

(10,884 posts)
7. We should be that lucky.. seems to me, at least, shes not inclined to let
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:16 AM
May 23

a bunch of Maga-misogynist asshole lawyers disrespect the other women on her bench, or the Bench itself. If THATS all we get out of her on a consistent basis, I'll take that, keep my mouth shut about a lot of the rest of it, and just say 'thank you'.

MadameButterfly

(3,008 posts)
12. Maybe she signed up to be a right wing judge in a democracy
Fri May 23, 2025, 03:59 AM
May 23

Last edited Sat May 24, 2025, 02:45 AM - Edit history (1)

but she didn't sign up to overthrow democracy.

She and Roberts have to know Trump is all grift, not RW policy. Will they ruin their reputations and give away the power of the courts for grift?
Their past decisions don't inspire confidence, but perhaps hope?

MadameButterfly

(3,008 posts)
29. Yes, I am agreeing with you and
Sat May 24, 2025, 02:54 AM
May 24

here we are, despite their crazy RW rulings, willing to settle for a chance they are pro-democracy.
Though Roberts could have helped out before it got this far by voting against Citizens United and the Immunity thing. He would be a very bad chess player, can't see the results a few moves into the future.

MadameButterfly

(3,008 posts)
13. Let's just lpray that Thomas won't want to retire and bask in the luxury
Fri May 23, 2025, 04:02 AM
May 23

his owners will offer him to give his seat to a younger version of himself. Because we could indeed have Aileen Cannon on SCOTUS if this comes to pass.

Hekate

(97,838 posts)
14. My husband keeps saying the same thing. Anti-abortion she may be, but she is proving to be ...
Fri May 23, 2025, 04:02 AM
May 23

…a more independent thinker than anyone expected — least of all trump.

MadameButterfly

(3,008 posts)
16. This is the pernicious nature of a lifetime appointment
Fri May 23, 2025, 04:04 AM
May 23

One has a tendency to speak onse own mind. Assuming the threats don't get out of hand.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,780 posts)
17. She's pissed off all democrats on Thursday, with a decision to allow Trump to fire agency heads at will
Fri May 23, 2025, 04:40 AM
May 23

This is not getting a lot of play on DU, but the Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that people that laws say cannot be fired by Trump without cause must, in today's authoritarian country, stay fired until courts issue definitive judgements.

'Legislating From the Bench,' Supreme Court Greenlights Trump Firing of Labor Regulators

In a decision that alarmed legal experts, the U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday blocked the reinstatement of two labor regulators fired by President Donald Trump in apparent violation of federal law intended to prevent such ousters for political reasons.

The Trump administration asked the high court—which has a right-wing supermajority—to block orders from the District Court for the District of Columbia against the president's removal of Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB) Member Cathy Harris and National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) Member Gwynne Wilcox.

An unsigned two-page opinion—from which the three liberals dissented—provides the Trump administration that relief, but the majority declined to take up the cases more fully, meaning they will play out U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit. The Hill noted that the move "leaves both agencies without a quorum required to conduct certain business in the meantime."

In her fiery dissent, Justice Elena Kagan wrote that "for 90 years, Humphrey's Executor v. United States... has stood as a precedent of this court. And not just any precedent. Humphrey's undergirds a significant feature of American governance: bipartisan administrative bodies carrying out expertise-based functions with a measure of independence from presidential control."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/humphrey-s-executor

BTW the historical basis for the "unitary executive theory" that the Supreme Court embraced today is total bunk, just an egregious, bad-faith misreading of history. It's pure bullshit. A court with integrity would acknowledge its mistake instead of doubling down. ndlawreview.org/interring-th...

Mark Joseph Stern (@mjsdc.bsky.social) 2025-05-22T21:25:43.629Z

Mark Joseph Stern on BlueSky:

BREAKING: The Supreme Court just effectively overruled 90 years of precedent on the shadow docket, greenlighting Trump's firing of multi-member agency leaders while their cases are pending—despite Congress' effort to protect them against removal. A huge decision.

The Supreme Court goes out of its way to say that its order today does NOT allow Trump to remove members of the Federal Reserve because it is "uniquely structured" and has a "distinct history tradition." (I do not think those distinctions hold water.)

Kagan's dissent is scorching and worth reading in full. She calls out the majority for effectively overruling Humphrey's Executor on the shadow docket and allowing Trump to break the law without even awaiting the Supreme Court's permission. She is alarmed.

BTW the historical basis for the "unitary executive theory" that the Supreme Court embraced today is total bunk, just an egregious, bad-faith misreading of history. It's pure bullshit. A court with integrity would acknowledge its mistake instead of doubling down.

Lawyers, Guns & Money blog:

Overruling 90 years of precedent (except for the Fed ) in an unreasoned four-paragraph opinion for Daddy Trump

To elaborate on Paul’s post below, the Court today overruled the Court’s unanimous 1935 opinion holding that Congress can require that members of executive agencies it creates to be fired only for cause sub silentio. (Literally — as Kagan observes the Court’s opinion does not even cite the controlling precedent.) The Court’s apparent new rule is indeed just royalism, essentially proceeding as if Congress has no interests worth even being considered:
...
As Kagan says, a major tell in the opinion is that it sees the only competing interest belonging to the officers themselves, ignoring the strong interest the people and their representatives have in having their statutorily expressed will honored

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2025/05/overruling-90-years-of-precedent-except-for-the-fed-in-an-unreasoned-four-paragraph-opinion-for-daddy-trump


Today on the shadow docket: overruling Humphrey’s Executor sub silentio (except for the federal reserve under the well-known “but muh portfolio” rule)

Scott Lemieux (@lemieuxlgm.bsky.social) 2025-05-22T21:21:51.442Z


This is an attack on the Constitution (it's about whether the Presidency can ignore laws passed by Congress), and Coney Barrett, and Roberts, are supporting Trump in the attack.

Emile

(34,888 posts)
18. A provision in the proposed budget that passed in the house, limits the ability
Fri May 23, 2025, 04:55 AM
May 23

of the courts to enforce their rulings against the government.

Jose Garcia

(3,203 posts)
25. It appears that the only SC Justices who consistently back Trump are two whom he did not appoint
Fri May 23, 2025, 11:50 AM
May 23

Alito and Thomas

Mz Pip

(28,092 posts)
26. The side eye she gave Trump
Fri May 23, 2025, 11:51 AM
May 23

at the SOTU was priceless. It was so full of contempt.
I don’t expect her to rubber stamp Trump’s agenda at all.

appmanga

(1,142 posts)
27. I wouldn't rush to judgment (no pun intended)...
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:13 PM
May 23

...but she did look physically repulsed at Trump's approaching Robert's at the SOTU. She's also indicated unhappiness in her writings at the overreach of the other so-called Conservative Justices in the Colorado and Immunity cases, overreach that will inevitably lead to more cases, as if that's needed.

I wouldn't hold my breath thinking she's going to become something like Harry Blackmun or David Souter, but being on the Court has changed people before, so it's possible.

Basso8vb

(1,028 posts)
28. She will be summarily removed from the bench along with all of the traitor MAGA scum on the court
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:27 PM
May 23

when we finally wrest back control.

fujiyamasan

(217 posts)
31. Ummm how is that supposed to happen
Sat May 24, 2025, 03:29 AM
May 24

Remember they’re appointed for life.

And impeaching a Supreme Court justice would be no easy task. Good luck finding a 2/3 senate majority to remove a sitting Supreme Court justice.

fujiyamasan

(217 posts)
30. Yes, this is what I'm seeing
Sat May 24, 2025, 03:27 AM
May 24

This is likely as good as it will get for now. Roberts and Barret show occasional independent thought. Hell even Kavanaugh does (much rarer though).

I dread the likes of Eileen Canon on the bench, especially as a replacement for Sotomeyer (who I believe has health issues).

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