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Danmel

(5,409 posts)
Fri May 2, 2025, 07:02 AM 15 hrs ago

Trump renaming Veterans Day


President Trump said Thursday that he would rename Veterans Day, on Nov. 11, as “Victory Day for World War I” and May 8, widely known as V-E Day, as “Victory Day for World War II,” so that the United States could celebrate its achievements in those conflicts.

“We won both Wars, nobody was close to us in terms of strength, bravery, or military brilliance, but we never celebrate anything,” Mr. Trump said in a late-night post on Truth Social. “We are going to start celebrating our victories again!”

I have no words. Where does one even start?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/us/politics/trump-veterans-day-world-war-i.html?unlocked_article_code=1.EE8.E5CF.TzXx6zvQoLqu&smid=url-share
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Trump renaming Veterans Day (Original Post) Danmel 15 hrs ago OP
WTF does BONE SPURS know about being a veteran? Emile 15 hrs ago #1
Yes x 1000. nt allegorical oracle 14 hrs ago #29
Well, he did say that avoiding STDs was his Vietnam. MarineCombatEngineer 13 hrs ago #48
Staying away from Subic Bay could have helped with that DemMedic 13 hrs ago #50
LOL. MarineCombatEngineer 12 hrs ago #59
So is be going to announce a VSTD Day 70sEraVet 12 hrs ago #62
He called vets suckers and losers. He's a loser all right. brush 7 hrs ago #78
Not one fucking thing! 11 Bravo 6 hrs ago #81
Enough of shithole's shit................... Lovie777 15 hrs ago #2
This is one common charateristic of incompetent people, they do stupid, non-critical, non-helpful idiocy like this Escurumbele 13 hrs ago #53
I'm going to continue celebrating Veterans Day and V-E Day. Crunchy Frog 15 hrs ago #3
There are veterans of the three branches of the Military no_hypocrisy 15 hrs ago #4
Somehow I KNEW he would do something like this!! Siwsan 15 hrs ago #5
Nope Hornedfrog2000 13 hrs ago #35
Can he do that? Meowmee 15 hrs ago #6
It's what happens D_Master81 15 hrs ago #14
The Supreme Court did that, not the country NotHardly 13 hrs ago #55
Maybe I should have said system instead of country 😁 Meowmee 8 hrs ago #72
The particular one giving him criminal immunity is the worst; some is the Republicans in Congress muriel_volestrangler 6 hrs ago #79
It was Armistice Day until 1954 Kaleva 15 hrs ago #7
Well now it's Veteran's Day. Kingofalldems 14 hrs ago #24
I didn't know that! Kaleva 14 hrs ago #28
I'm waiting for him to kill Juneteenth Danmel 15 hrs ago #8
Oh yeah BeerBarrelPolka 15 hrs ago #10
indirectly, he is markie 14 hrs ago #27
He hasn't officially yet, but I read that mwmisses4289 14 hrs ago #31
You know he will n/t shanti 6 hrs ago #82
WWIi didn't end until August 45 SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #9
Correct, May 8 was just the European part of the war that ended IronLionZion 13 hrs ago #40
Yes SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #46
"You can't erase history" IronLionZion 13 hrs ago #47
But you can re-write it to conform to ideology walkingman 13 hrs ago #54
Right. VE Day May 8. yorkster 13 hrs ago #56
Wasn't there ever a VJ Day? I seem to remember that term being used. CTyankee 11 hrs ago #69
Sure is IronLionZion 11 hrs ago #70
That is a very good point. Prof. Toru Tanaka 7 hrs ago #77
what about G.O.P. Draft Dodgers Day? BoRaGard 15 hrs ago #11
We're about to pay $70 million for a "Dear Leader" parade. rubbersole 13 hrs ago #42
...let' give Donischca Krasnov the parade thomski64 13 hrs ago #49
They're saving so much tax dollars from fraud, waste, and abuse IronLionZion 12 hrs ago #58
Thousands of U. S. military personnel gave their live between V-E Day and V-J Day. John1956PA 15 hrs ago #12
And that there's no one close to him who will tell him that is horrifying. n/t Harker 13 hrs ago #37
Everything is about winning and losing D_Master81 15 hrs ago #13
"bravery"? Every one of the Canadian and British soldiers on D-Day was as brave as the Americans Bernardo de La Paz 15 hrs ago #15
It's BeerBarrelPolka 15 hrs ago #16
It would take an act of congress Nonnia Bisnez 15 hrs ago #17
Bet he wears his purple heart (the one the veteran gave him at a rally). That's as close as he gets to combat. Vinca 15 hrs ago #18
People are going to call it what they want to. Nonnia Bisnez 14 hrs ago #19
Both of these points are pretty arguable Prairie Gates 14 hrs ago #20
I Buy That ProfessorGAC 12 hrs ago #61
Yes, after the invasion of Russia, Disaffected 11 hrs ago #67
I thought he was going to call it "Suckers and Losers Day." Because that's how he has previously referred to veterans. Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #21
Because the Veterans are malaise 14 hrs ago #22
I'm sure it will involve a parade surfered 14 hrs ago #23
So veterans of all the other conflicts are ignored???!!! yardwork 14 hrs ago #25
Yep -- my dad served in WWII and Korea. Tons of veterans serve in peace time, too. nt allegorical oracle 14 hrs ago #30
I'm renaming his birthday VD day Blues Heron 14 hrs ago #26
trDUMP - Oozing Syphlis Day magicarpet 14 hrs ago #32
Veterans of other conflicts (nearly all vets) don't get mention? Terrible idea. Doodley 13 hrs ago #33
Why doesn't he just fucking die already? Orrex 13 hrs ago #34
For God's sake cholesterol . . . Get on with it! SarcasticSatyr 13 hrs ago #36
... Demovictory9 7 hrs ago #76
Bananas jayschool2013 13 hrs ago #38
The Drumpf family supported Germany in those wars IronLionZion 13 hrs ago #39
Of course they did. Of course. yardwork 13 hrs ago #52
This isn't from The Onion??? niyad 13 hrs ago #41
That was my first thought, then I saw NYT in the URL Martin Eden 13 hrs ago #44
the losers and suckers who didn't get daddy deferments for Vietnam -- screw them JT45242 13 hrs ago #43
Donald... Unbitten 13 hrs ago #45
So veterans of other wars don't get a day? Ocelot II 13 hrs ago #51
We won't be celebrating our veterans UpInArms 12 hrs ago #57
This message was self-deleted by its author tetedur 12 hrs ago #60
To listen to Trump, you'd think we had no allies. yorkster 12 hrs ago #63
"strength, bravery, or military brilliance" bucolic_frolic 12 hrs ago #64
Adolph Donald must be looking to get fragged. SalamanderSleeps 12 hrs ago #65
A lot of attention is given to Veterans Day from businesses, and local veterans groups Raven123 11 hrs ago #66
Hey, I'm surprised he doesn't want to rename it . . . peggysue2 11 hrs ago #68
War is sweet to those who haven't tasted it. Desiderius Erasmus Ping Tung 11 hrs ago #71
Were it not for the Veterans, there would be NO victories. ProudMNDemocrat 8 hrs ago #73
Bone spurs day? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 8 hrs ago #74
Up next: Loudly renaming the VA "Administration for WWI and WWII combatants" struggle4progress 7 hrs ago #75
WHO THE FUCK DOES HE THINK HE IS? choie 6 hrs ago #80
Is there anything he won't mess with? LuckyLib 4 hrs ago #83

70sEraVet

(4,476 posts)
62. So is be going to announce a VSTD Day
Fri May 2, 2025, 10:07 AM
12 hrs ago

to celebrate his victory over Sexually Transmitted Diseases?

brush

(59,713 posts)
78. He called vets suckers and losers. He's a loser all right.
Fri May 2, 2025, 03:53 PM
7 hrs ago

Also I thought his admin is supposed to be cutting expenses. Adding another holiday for victory in both world wars sure isn't doint that.

The idiocy continues.

Escurumbele

(3,774 posts)
53. This is one common charateristic of incompetent people, they do stupid, non-critical, non-helpful idiocy like this
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:52 AM
13 hrs ago

including the renaming of the Gulf, the two 100ft flag poles at the white house, just to make his idiot base think he is doing something. He wants people who drive by the white house to see the flag poles and think about him...I mean, what an accomplishment, right?

Its waste and people should understand that the meaningless unproductive stupidity is a sign of his incompetence, nothing else.

Crunchy Frog

(27,578 posts)
3. I'm going to continue celebrating Veterans Day and V-E Day.
Fri May 2, 2025, 07:08 AM
15 hrs ago

Just like I still call the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of Mexico.

We should all be boycotting his name changes.

no_hypocrisy

(51,360 posts)
4. There are veterans of the three branches of the Military
Fri May 2, 2025, 07:09 AM
15 hrs ago

who didn't fight in either World Wars. The Korean War. The Vietnam War. Afghanistan. Iraq. And veterans who have served honorably without being in an overseas conflict.

You just can't invalidate them like that.

Siwsan

(27,530 posts)
5. Somehow I KNEW he would do something like this!!
Fri May 2, 2025, 07:09 AM
15 hrs ago

Is he going to change the name of Memorial Day to 'Suckers and Losers Day' since that's how he really feels about the people we honor on that day.

D_Master81

(2,033 posts)
14. It's what happens
Fri May 2, 2025, 07:23 AM
15 hrs ago

When civics aren’t stressed and intelligence is considered “elite”.

Meowmee

(8,885 posts)
72. Maybe I should have said system instead of country 😁
Fri May 2, 2025, 01:55 PM
8 hrs ago

Was there a specific ruling by the SC that allowed this particular executive power? I believe many of the powers were written into the constitution. imo they were always excessive as is the whole executive position- too much power with no easy way to reign them in or remove them.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,522 posts)
79. The particular one giving him criminal immunity is the worst; some is the Republicans in Congress
Fri May 2, 2025, 03:56 PM
6 hrs ago

just allowing him to dictate everything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v._United_States allows him to ignore the courts - the most they can do to him is persuade other parts of the government to ignore orders from Trump. That means he has the confidence to try anything; a lot of what he's done so far could have been prevented if some Republicans in Congress had stopped him, but so few of them have any ethics that they've sat back and allowed him to do what the fuck he likes.

mwmisses4289

(979 posts)
31. He hasn't officially yet, but I read that
Fri May 2, 2025, 08:47 AM
14 hrs ago

several cities have cancelled or scaled back their juneteeth celebrations because of the current political climate.

yorkster

(3,009 posts)
56. Right. VE Day May 8.
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:54 AM
13 hrs ago

Jesus, what a damn fool. He just wants a
Victory Day like Putin has.

rubbersole

(9,733 posts)
42. We're about to pay $70 million for a "Dear Leader" parade.
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:08 AM
13 hrs ago

Soon there will be one a month, mandatory attendance, totalitarian tithing with a song of praise to be sung during the public floggings. One of those 12 events should be named Golf Overlord Praise Day. Drafts won't be necessary when everyone is a "volunteer".

thomski64

(661 posts)
49. ...let' give Donischca Krasnov the parade
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:49 AM
13 hrs ago

...he wants... only more like the one for Anwar Sadat....

John1956PA

(4,008 posts)
12. Thousands of U. S. military personnel gave their live between V-E Day and V-J Day.
Fri May 2, 2025, 07:20 AM
15 hrs ago

It is disrespectful to the memories of those fallen service members to declare that May 8, 1945, marked the end of World War II.

D_Master81

(2,033 posts)
13. Everything is about winning and losing
Fri May 2, 2025, 07:20 AM
15 hrs ago

To him and his supporters everything is nothing more than a competition or sporting event where someone wins and someone loses. I bet this idiot doesnt even realize that after VE Day WW2 wasn’t over.

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,106 posts)
15. "bravery"? Every one of the Canadian and British soldiers on D-Day was as brave as the Americans
Fri May 2, 2025, 07:36 AM
15 hrs ago

tRump is the last person I would take advice from about bravery.

Nonnia Bisnez

(25 posts)
17. It would take an act of congress
Fri May 2, 2025, 07:50 AM
15 hrs ago

to officially rename veterans day. Presidents can name a specific date as a holiday, but cannot declare annual recurring holidays.

Vinca

(51,987 posts)
18. Bet he wears his purple heart (the one the veteran gave him at a rally). That's as close as he gets to combat.
Fri May 2, 2025, 07:54 AM
15 hrs ago

Nonnia Bisnez

(25 posts)
19. People are going to call it what they want to.
Fri May 2, 2025, 08:01 AM
14 hrs ago

The third Monday in February is commonly called presidents day even though the official federal holiday is Washington's birthday.

Prairie Gates

(4,971 posts)
20. Both of these points are pretty arguable
Fri May 2, 2025, 08:04 AM
14 hrs ago

The Soviets arguably won the war in Europe in WWII.

To say that the US were the strongest in WWI is pretty laughable. The US wasn't really operationally involved until 1918 (Chateau-Thierry and Belleau Wood weren't until May-June 1918). Any of the other warring parties on the Western Front were arguably stronger than the Americans for the majority of the war. The Germans were already near collapse by 1918, with the Spring Offensive of that year being a success in the way the Ardennes Offensive was initially successful in WWII.

ProfessorGAC

(72,471 posts)
61. I Buy That
Fri May 2, 2025, 10:07 AM
12 hrs ago

The US contribution to winning WW1 was more money & materiel.
We weren't there long enough to have made a huge tactical difference. But, we were strategically important.
We would disagree about the war in Europe, though.

Disaffected

(5,531 posts)
67. Yes, after the invasion of Russia,
Fri May 2, 2025, 11:26 AM
11 hrs ago

about two thirds of the German army and air force were consumed on the eastern front. In fact, the Russian land and air forces were so strong at the end of the war that the allies feared they might not stop at Berlin and proceed to take over all of Europe. IIRC there was even a contingency plan drawn up that would have seen a retreat to England and eventual relaunching of a counter invasion from there and N Africa.

Of course the draft dodger wouldn't know, or care, about any of that. I wonder what Trump would have done if he had been born 15 or 20 years earlier (were bone spurs a thing in those days?).

Scrivener7

(55,539 posts)
21. I thought he was going to call it "Suckers and Losers Day." Because that's how he has previously referred to veterans.
Fri May 2, 2025, 08:06 AM
14 hrs ago

yardwork

(66,426 posts)
25. So veterans of all the other conflicts are ignored???!!!
Fri May 2, 2025, 08:27 AM
14 hrs ago

What the actual eff?

(As an aside, I am so sick of the way WWII and WWI are romanticized and obsessed over by MAGATs.)

IronLionZion

(48,650 posts)
39. The Drumpf family supported Germany in those wars
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:06 AM
13 hrs ago

and after the US defeated Germany in WW2, they changed their name to Trump and pretended to be Swedish.

yardwork

(66,426 posts)
52. Of course they did. Of course.
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:52 AM
13 hrs ago

Trump and most of his family are on the wrong side of literally everything.

A remarkable sweep of "wrong and evil" in every single instance. I can't think of one redeeming trait. Not one. No sense of humor. Has no pets. Is mean to his children. Has terrible taste.

Martin Eden

(14,203 posts)
44. That was my first thought, then I saw NYT in the URL
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:20 AM
13 hrs ago

Demented Donald should be severed from reality, in a tightly controlled bubble. Let him think he is an absolute dictator, but control everything he sees and hears. It's a bit far-fetched, but his tiny hands must not hold the actual reins of power.

JT45242

(3,271 posts)
43. the losers and suckers who didn't get daddy deferments for Vietnam -- screw them
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:18 AM
13 hrs ago

This is a big FU to the people (mostly poor and middle class, largely people of color) who fought in Vietnam and the Gulf Wars.

What a self entitled worthless POS -- and I wonder how many post Korean veterans voted for this piece of crap?

Unbitten

(10 posts)
45. Donald...
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:22 AM
13 hrs ago

Please give us a brief summary of US involvement in WWI & WWII…

The ignorance is overwhelming, but not at all a surprise.

Response to Danmel (Original post)

yorkster

(3,009 posts)
63. To listen to Trump, you'd think we had no allies.
Fri May 2, 2025, 10:11 AM
12 hrs ago

We won this. We won that. Greatest nation on earth, blah blah blah.
We need Sister Mary Elephant and her giant scream. Make it "SHUUTUUP!!" this time. Yes, kids, Cheech and Chong reference.

bucolic_frolic

(50,074 posts)
64. "strength, bravery, or military brilliance"
Fri May 2, 2025, 10:13 AM
12 hrs ago

superlatives in search of metrics.

Troop numbers and casualties can be measured.

Bravery ... how do you quantify?

Military brilliance. I believe it was Nigel Hamilton's trilogy FDR at war that showed the British generals were far more experienced at warfare than American top brass.

AI ChatGPT weighs in: [British] "Field Marshal Alan Brooke’s wartime diaries, where Brooke is often blisteringly critical of American military leadership.

Brooke often viewed American generals as inexperienced, overconfident, and lacking in strategic maturity.

He believed that many of them, including Eisenhower (at first), were too deferential to political aims or Roosevelt’s vision, and not seasoned in planning complex, global operations.

Hamilton quotes Brooke expressing frustration over U.S. impatience and lack of understanding of logistical realities, especially regarding early plans for a cross-Channel invasion (which the British thought premature in 1942–43)."

But you run with it, Donnie.

SalamanderSleeps

(775 posts)
65. Adolph Donald must be looking to get fragged.
Fri May 2, 2025, 10:47 AM
12 hrs ago

New Rule: Never hire hire a Secret Service Agent to do the right thing. Ever.

Raven123

(6,621 posts)
66. A lot of attention is given to Veterans Day from businesses, and local veterans groups
Fri May 2, 2025, 11:11 AM
11 hrs ago

Does that mean those veterans discounts and free donuts won’t be offered?

peggysue2

(11,769 posts)
68. Hey, I'm surprised he doesn't want to rename it . . .
Fri May 2, 2025, 11:26 AM
11 hrs ago

Trump Day. Because it's always about HIM.

Ping Tung

(2,261 posts)
71. War is sweet to those who haven't tasted it. Desiderius Erasmus
Fri May 2, 2025, 11:46 AM
11 hrs ago

Or one who escaped it by paying off some quack.

struggle4progress

(123,005 posts)
75. Up next: Loudly renaming the VA "Administration for WWI and WWII combatants"
Fri May 2, 2025, 03:37 PM
7 hrs ago

while cutting funds because WWI and WWII combatants are now rare

Maybe we should also rename 28 April "Take a hint, assholes" day (after 28 April 1945) and 28 April "We really mean it! Take a fucking hint, assholes" day (after 30 April 1945)?

BTW, Donny Demento is an ignorant nitwit: WWII ended in August 1945, not May

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