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President Trump said Thursday that he would rename Veterans Day, on Nov. 11, as Victory Day for World War I and May 8, widely known as V-E Day, as Victory Day for World War II, so that the United States could celebrate its achievements in those conflicts.
We won both Wars, nobody was close to us in terms of strength, bravery, or military brilliance, but we never celebrate anything, Mr. Trump said in a late-night post on Truth Social. We are going to start celebrating our victories again!
I have no words. Where does one even start?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/us/politics/trump-veterans-day-world-war-i.html?unlocked_article_code=1.EE8.E5CF.TzXx6zvQoLqu&smid=url-share

Emile
(34,270 posts)allegorical oracle
(4,757 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(15,181 posts)

DemMedic
(407 posts)n/t
MarineCombatEngineer
(15,181 posts)
70sEraVet
(4,476 posts)to celebrate his victory over Sexually Transmitted Diseases?
brush
(59,713 posts)Also I thought his admin is supposed to be cutting expenses. Adding another holiday for victory in both world wars sure isn't doint that.
The idiocy continues.
11 Bravo
(24,105 posts)Lovie777
(18,215 posts)Escurumbele
(3,774 posts)including the renaming of the Gulf, the two 100ft flag poles at the white house, just to make his idiot base think he is doing something. He wants people who drive by the white house to see the flag poles and think about him...I mean, what an accomplishment, right?
Its waste and people should understand that the meaningless unproductive stupidity is a sign of his incompetence, nothing else.
Crunchy Frog
(27,578 posts)Just like I still call the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of Mexico.
We should all be boycotting his name changes.
no_hypocrisy
(51,360 posts)who didn't fight in either World Wars. The Korean War. The Vietnam War. Afghanistan. Iraq. And veterans who have served honorably without being in an overseas conflict.
You just can't invalidate them like that.
Siwsan
(27,530 posts)Is he going to change the name of Memorial Day to 'Suckers and Losers Day' since that's how he really feels about the people we honor on that day.
Itll be live forever day. Cus winners are never memoried
Meowmee
(8,885 posts)This country is crazy to give so much power to the executive.
D_Master81
(2,033 posts)When civics arent stressed and intelligence is considered elite.
NotHardly
(2,081 posts)Meowmee
(8,885 posts)Was there a specific ruling by the SC that allowed this particular executive power? I believe many of the powers were written into the constitution. imo they were always excessive as is the whole executive position- too much power with no easy way to reign them in or remove them.
muriel_volestrangler
(103,522 posts)just allowing him to dictate everything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v._United_States allows him to ignore the courts - the most they can do to him is persuade other parts of the government to ignore orders from Trump. That means he has the confidence to try anything; a lot of what he's done so far could have been prevented if some Republicans in Congress had stopped him, but so few of them have any ethics that they've sat back and allowed him to do what the fuck he likes.
Kaleva
(39,285 posts)Kingofalldems
(39,548 posts)Kaleva
(39,285 posts)Danmel
(5,409 posts)BeerBarrelPolka
(1,563 posts)I bet you're right!
markie
(23,336 posts)mwmisses4289
(979 posts)several cities have cancelled or scaled back their juneteeth celebrations because of the current political climate.
shanti
(21,743 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(4,326 posts)IronLionZion
(48,650 posts)the war continued in Japan.
SocialDemocrat61
(4,326 posts)But I doubt Donny knows any history. LOL
IronLionZion
(48,650 posts)


walkingman
(9,160 posts)yorkster
(3,009 posts)Jesus, what a damn fool. He just wants a
Victory Day like Putin has.
CTyankee
(66,066 posts)IronLionZion
(48,650 posts)Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,583 posts)Someone ought to bring that up to TSF. I doubt anyone will, though.
BoRaGard
(5,200 posts)Asking for G.O.P. Golfers
rubbersole
(9,733 posts)Soon there will be one a month, mandatory attendance, totalitarian tithing with a song of praise to be sung during the public floggings. One of those 12 events should be named Golf Overlord Praise Day. Drafts won't be necessary when everyone is a "volunteer".
thomski64
(661 posts)...he wants... only more like the one for Anwar Sadat....
IronLionZion
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John1956PA
(4,008 posts)It is disrespectful to the memories of those fallen service members to declare that May 8, 1945, marked the end of World War II.
Harker
(16,156 posts)D_Master81
(2,033 posts)To him and his supporters everything is nothing more than a competition or sporting event where someone wins and someone loses. I bet this idiot doesnt even realize that after VE Day WW2 wasnt over.
Bernardo de La Paz
(55,106 posts)tRump is the last person I would take advice from about bravery.
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,563 posts)It's not a competition. Just ignore trump and don't take offence.
Nonnia Bisnez
(25 posts)to officially rename veterans day. Presidents can name a specific date as a holiday, but cannot declare annual recurring holidays.
Vinca
(51,987 posts)Nonnia Bisnez
(25 posts)The third Monday in February is commonly called presidents day even though the official federal holiday is Washington's birthday.
Prairie Gates
(4,971 posts)The Soviets arguably won the war in Europe in WWII.
To say that the US were the strongest in WWI is pretty laughable. The US wasn't really operationally involved until 1918 (Chateau-Thierry and Belleau Wood weren't until May-June 1918). Any of the other warring parties on the Western Front were arguably stronger than the Americans for the majority of the war. The Germans were already near collapse by 1918, with the Spring Offensive of that year being a success in the way the Ardennes Offensive was initially successful in WWII.
ProfessorGAC
(72,471 posts)The US contribution to winning WW1 was more money & materiel.
We weren't there long enough to have made a huge tactical difference. But, we were strategically important.
We would disagree about the war in Europe, though.
Disaffected
(5,531 posts)about two thirds of the German army and air force were consumed on the eastern front. In fact, the Russian land and air forces were so strong at the end of the war that the allies feared they might not stop at Berlin and proceed to take over all of Europe. IIRC there was even a contingency plan drawn up that would have seen a retreat to England and eventual relaunching of a counter invasion from there and N Africa.
Of course the draft dodger wouldn't know, or care, about any of that. I wonder what Trump would have done if he had been born 15 or 20 years earlier (were bone spurs a thing in those days?).
Scrivener7
(55,539 posts)malaise
(283,545 posts)Suckers and losers - he is one sick fuck
surfered
(6,456 posts)yardwork
(66,426 posts)What the actual eff?
(As an aside, I am so sick of the way WWII and WWI are romanticized and obsessed over by MAGATs.)
allegorical oracle
(4,757 posts)Blues Heron
(6,843 posts)magicarpet
(18,119 posts)Doodley
(10,825 posts)Orrex
(65,083 posts)SarcasticSatyr
(1,337 posts). . . . . .
Demovictory9
(35,562 posts)
jayschool2013
(2,578 posts)IronLionZion
(48,650 posts)and after the US defeated Germany in WW2, they changed their name to Trump and pretended to be Swedish.
yardwork
(66,426 posts)Trump and most of his family are on the wrong side of literally everything.
A remarkable sweep of "wrong and evil" in every single instance. I can't think of one redeeming trait. Not one. No sense of humor. Has no pets. Is mean to his children. Has terrible taste.
niyad
(123,499 posts)Martin Eden
(14,203 posts)Demented Donald should be severed from reality, in a tightly controlled bubble. Let him think he is an absolute dictator, but control everything he sees and hears. It's a bit far-fetched, but his tiny hands must not hold the actual reins of power.
JT45242
(3,271 posts)This is a big FU to the people (mostly poor and middle class, largely people of color) who fought in Vietnam and the Gulf Wars.
What a self entitled worthless POS -- and I wonder how many post Korean veterans voted for this piece of crap?
Unbitten
(10 posts)Please give us a brief summary of US involvement in WWI & WWII
The ignorance is overwhelming, but not at all a surprise.
Ocelot II
(124,493 posts)UpInArms
(52,705 posts)Because they are just suckers and losers
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yorkster
(3,009 posts)We won this. We won that. Greatest nation on earth, blah blah blah.
We need Sister Mary Elephant and her giant scream. Make it "SHUUTUUP!!" this time. Yes, kids, Cheech and Chong reference.
bucolic_frolic
(50,074 posts)superlatives in search of metrics.
Troop numbers and casualties can be measured.
Bravery ... how do you quantify?
Military brilliance. I believe it was Nigel Hamilton's trilogy FDR at war that showed the British generals were far more experienced at warfare than American top brass.
AI ChatGPT weighs in: [British] "Field Marshal Alan Brookes wartime diaries, where Brooke is often blisteringly critical of American military leadership.
Brooke often viewed American generals as inexperienced, overconfident, and lacking in strategic maturity.
He believed that many of them, including Eisenhower (at first), were too deferential to political aims or Roosevelts vision, and not seasoned in planning complex, global operations.
Hamilton quotes Brooke expressing frustration over U.S. impatience and lack of understanding of logistical realities, especially regarding early plans for a cross-Channel invasion (which the British thought premature in 194243)."
But you run with it, Donnie.
SalamanderSleeps
(775 posts)New Rule: Never hire hire a Secret Service Agent to do the right thing. Ever.
Raven123
(6,621 posts)Does that mean those veterans discounts and free donuts wont be offered?
peggysue2
(11,769 posts)Trump Day. Because it's always about HIM.
Ping Tung
(2,261 posts)Or one who escaped it by paying off some quack.
ProudMNDemocrat
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(122,335 posts)struggle4progress
(123,005 posts)while cutting funds because WWI and WWII combatants are now rare
Maybe we should also rename 28 April "Take a hint, assholes" day (after 28 April 1945) and 28 April "We really mean it! Take a fucking hint, assholes" day (after 30 April 1945)?
BTW, Donny Demento is an ignorant nitwit: WWII ended in August 1945, not May
choie
(5,386 posts)Is he trying to remake every aspect of our nation?
LuckyLib
(6,968 posts)😡