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Govt cant rely on Alien Enemy Act to deport Venezuelans
Phew!

H2O Man
(76,704 posts)malaise
(283,545 posts)😀
And if I wasn't getting ready to head to a rally, I'd have said more. The Rule of Law will be challenged in the late spring/summer by the administration. We are approaching that now. And this is the field the conflict will play out on.
AllaN01Bear
(24,917 posts)H2O Man
(76,704 posts)the rally I attended in rural, upstate New York, I am confident that a widening number of people recognize this administration poses serious dangers, and must be stopped.
Orrex
(65,083 posts)malaise
(283,545 posts)Third time lucky planet😀
PJMcK
(23,551 posts)As much as I hope for such an outcome, Trump will be safe until he screws over the elected Republicans and they turn on him.
I don't expect that to happen any time soon.
Pity.
malaise
(283,545 posts)He will be impeached again
PJMcK
(23,551 posts)It'll take a dozen or seats in the House to flip for an impeachment resolution to pass. There will be a lot of resistance from Republicans, of course, and the right wing media.
But, as you know, the Senate is the key for removal. It will have to be a catastrophic circumstance for Republicans to vote for Trump's removal. I just don't see that happening because these asshole Republicans are so far up Trump's backside that it seems unlikely they will turn on him.
Unless it becomes a total shit show. Then anything could happen. However, my fear is that if we reach that inflection point, the US will have been so damaged that its recovery will take years beyond my lifetime.
lastlib
(25,822 posts)KFC/hamberders, do your thing--PLEASE!!
calimary
(86,040 posts)Up near the top.
AND pushed HARD by us, their constituents, so theyre crystal clear as to what we want from them.
We have to get LOUD, REPETITIVE, and UNRELENTING. At EVERY turn. They have to feel surrounded and outweighed and damn near suffocated by the sheer numbers of us. Theyre pretty damn thick-headed, so we have to be OVERWHELMING.
soldierant
(8,444 posts)and we will be able to put a third asterisk behind his name. I wonder how many the total will be.
soldierant
(8,444 posts)Orrex
(65,083 posts)OLDMDDEM
(2,476 posts)a kennedy
(33,400 posts)🤬 🤬 🤬 I hope Im wrong, but I just feel so like who cares what all these judges say, the orange piece of shit and his cronies will just ignore the directives anyway.
H2O Man
(76,704 posts)is a rational concern. But I think the USSC will rule against the felon. That sets up what will happen when he ignores the highest court in the land.
NJCher
(39,923 posts)every time we get a positive decision, there's always a poster who shrugs it off and says he ignores it anyway.
Can we all agree that is probably the case and that we're just doing this for the record? Save everybody the trouble of making yet another post that says he'll ignore it?
Save time making the post, save others reading it.
orangecrush
(24,396 posts)They get a personal size pizza from me
malaise
(283,545 posts)Yuh see
Initech
(104,623 posts)Nothing of value would be lost there!
They would only do what they do from another location. I'm afraid that it'll have to be something a little more permanent than deportation...
MontanaMama
(24,399 posts)
a kennedy
(33,400 posts)sop
(13,932 posts)Initech
(104,623 posts)And leave us alone!
Why won't trump deport them I wonder???
Skittles
(163,826 posts)THAT would make America great again; yes INDEED.
Initech
(104,623 posts)I can get behind this campaign!
Skittles
(163,826 posts)I'll take an undocumented immigrant as a neighbor ANY DAY over a flag-waving, Bible-thumping MAGAt - because one BELIEVES in America, the other one certainly DOES NOT.
malaise
(283,545 posts)
UTUSN
(74,020 posts)Last edited Thu May 1, 2025, 08:00 PM - Edit history (1)
mcar
(44,517 posts)appleannie1
(5,253 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(7,748 posts)Iamscrewed
(190 posts)Impeachment is necessary because of violation of the oath of office. Full fucking stop.
spooky3
(37,417 posts)surfered
(6,456 posts)maxsolomon
(36,456 posts)Now, to quibble about it for months all the way to the SCOTUS.
malaise
(283,545 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,359 posts)For now. I cannot believe so many Americans are fine with the Trump regime's blatant fascism. I knew there were some, but 44% approving of Pissolini's masked goon squads in unmarked vans and no ID badges snatching people off the streets. It simply boggles my mind.
SheltieLover
(67,176 posts)I honestly believe they cannot connect the dots. It's a short trip from immigrants go citizens!
Nice to see you agan!
OldBaldy1701E
(7,748 posts)To quote the great comedian Tim Wilson: "Well, there's your problem."
SheltieLover
(67,176 posts)Incoming limp-dick weak finger wag in 3, 2, 1...
Buttoneer
(837 posts)SheltieLover
(67,176 posts)Someone posted a lengthy explanation.
Lock them the fuck up.
spanone
(138,898 posts)K&R
LetMyPeopleVote
(162,387 posts)The Texas judges ruling is significant because it dealt head-on with the merits of the wartime law. Its not the last word on the issue.
https://bsky.app/profile/photoframd.bsky.social/post/3lo5gx4mso22b
Link to tweet
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/alien-enemies-act-invocation-unlawful-rcna204232
The 1798 act was previously used only during declared wars. The text of the act says its for [w]henever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government......
The Trump appointee reviewed the historical record from the time of the acts passage and found that the terms invasion or predatory incursion are meant to refer to an organized, armed force entering the United States to engage in conduct destructive of property and human life in a specific geographical area. Applying that background to Trumps proclamation, the judge said TdAs activities as described in the proclamation dont qualify under the act.
While this is just one ruling from one (Trump-appointed) judge in one district, it shows the difficulty the administration could face in ultimately prevailing before the Supreme Court on the merits of the issue. Other trial and appellate court judges around the country could also favorably cite Rodriguezs ruling if they agree with it, though they wouldnt be bound by it. Trial judges are bound by appellate rulings in their circuits, and all judges are bound by the Supreme Court. Rodriguez sits in the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, the most conservative circuit, which would typically be the next step on the appellate chain if the government chooses to challenge the ruling.
In any event, Rodriguezs decision doesnt prevent the administration from using normal immigration authorities outside the rarely used act to carry out deportations.
The new ruling also underscores the illegality of the administration having already summarily removed people to El Salvador under the act and deposited them into a notorious prison there. Lawyers are also pressing to get them returned to the United States. And the ruling comes as the administration fights against returning Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Salvadoran native who was also illegally deported to that country (albeit not under the Alien Enemies invocation).
The invocation of the Alien Enemies Act is not supported by the law and I am shocked that it has taken this long for a court to rule on this act. I saw that trump is appealing directly to SCOTUS and by passing the 5th Circuit. This will be fun to watch.
cliffside
(886 posts)"we just won a major victory in our lawsuit to stop President Trump's mass deportations.
A federal court in southern Texas ruled the Trump administration's invocation of the Alien Enemies Act to conduct mass deportations of immigrants without due process is unlawful. The court blocked the administration from using it to deport anyone being held in the Southern District of Texas, which will prevent more people from being sent to CECOT, a prison in El Salvador notorious for torture.
Immigrants are, and always have been, an integral part of our country. And they, too, are protected by U.S. laws and the Constitution.
We still have a lot of work to do but we will keep fighting to protect immigrants in every state from Trump's unlawful mass deportations.
Thank you for your support,
The ACLU Team"
louis-t
(24,289 posts)And he will probably ignore this ruling.