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In It to Win It

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Wed Apr 30, 2025, 05:40 PM Wednesday

Brett Kavanaugh Thinks the Separation of Church and State Is Anti-Catholic Bigotry - SLATE's Mark Joseph Stern

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During oral arguments on Wednesday in one of the biggest religion cases in generations, it became clear that the Supreme Court appears all but certain to compel Oklahoma to establish and fund a Catholic charter school, opening the floodgates to mandatory taxpayer support for religious education across the country. Indeed, the Republican-appointed justices took turns accusing the state of engaging in unconstitutional discrimination against religion by declining to admit a church-run academy into its public school system. Their position, if adopted, would transform U.S. public education, striking down restrictions on religious charter schools enshrined in federal statute as well as the laws of 46 states and the District of Columbia. It would bury what remains of church–state separation, forcing every American to subsidize the indoctrination of children into faiths they may not share. And it would further enfeeble secular public education, diverting billions of dollars away from inclusive public schools toward religious academies that openly discriminate against those outside their faith.

The conservative justices, however, did not sound concerned about any of these extreme consequences. If anything, they appeared eager to accelerate them—casting the long-standing nationwide ban on sectarian charter schools as an egregious form of anti-religious bigotry. This Supreme Court has evidently sunk so deep into the mindset of conservative grievance that it now feels victimized by the very concept of public secularism.

Wednesday’s case, Oklahoma Statewide Charter School Board v. Drummond, was engineered by conservative activists seeking to expand state funding of religious education. They worked with the diocese to create St. Isidore—a full-time virtual Catholic school that provides overtly sectarian instruction—and apply for participation in Oklahoma’s charter school program. The board that runs this program narrowly approved the school’s application, making it the first religious charter school in the nation. But Attorney General Gentner Drummond, a Republican, objected; the state’s constitution, he pointed out, forbids the expenditure of public money on any “sectarian institution” and requires that public schools be “free from sectarian control.” The Oklahoma Supreme Court sided with the attorney general last year, ruling that the state constitution prohibits taxpayer funding of St. Isidore.

The school’s lawyers then appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, arguing that its exclusion from the charter school program violated the free exercise clause of the First Amendment. Justice Amy Coney Barrett recused herself, presumably because of her close friendship with an attorney advising St. Isidore. The court took up the case nonetheless, reflecting a clear desire among the conservative justices to declare that Oklahoma had violated the school’s constitutional rights.
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Brett Kavanaugh Thinks the Separation of Church and State Is Anti-Catholic Bigotry - SLATE's Mark Joseph Stern (Original Post) In It to Win It Wednesday OP
I wonder how they'd decide if the charter school at issue was a madrassa or a yeshiva? Ocelot II Wednesday #1
Or a satanic temple. yardwork Wednesday #5
I'm just going to throw up.... FarPoint Wednesday #2
Not just American history classes. Girard442 Wednesday #3
Nothing conservative about it. Church & school always separate in US. rickyhall Wednesday #4
'And it would further enfeeble secular public education...' J_William_Ryan Wednesday #6
The majority of charter schools Goatguy Wednesday #7
Why did they stop running their own scools? IbogaProject Wednesday #8
Another thing he should have revealed at his hearing. Baitball Blogger Wednesday #9
Kavanaugh is pro-theocracy, anti-democratic sakabatou Wednesday #10
STFU, BK...It's Not Anti-Catholic bigotry.... electric_blue68 Wednesday #11

FarPoint

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2. I'm just going to throw up....
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 05:44 PM
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Lawyers who were drunk in law school....Oh ..and drunk in American history class..

Girard442

(6,631 posts)
3. Not just American history classes.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 06:02 PM
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The Founding Fathers were heavily influenced by the endless bloody religion-based conflicts in Europe and wanted to create a government that could avoid them.

Let's face it, given TSF's major support from Evangelicals, any conflict he starts (or escalates) is pretty much by definition a Holy War.

J_William_Ryan

(2,702 posts)
6. 'And it would further enfeeble secular public education...'
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 06:12 PM
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That’s the most alarming aspect of the issue, Establishment Clause jurisprudence notwithstanding.

Charter schools and so-called voucher programs are intended to undermine public education and eventually eliminate it.

As for the specific case, using public monies to fund religious schools clearly violates settled, accepted Establishment Clause precedent, as it’s clearly government endorsement of religion.

Of course, this Supreme Court dominated by blind partisan conservative ideologues have nothing but contempt for settled, accepted precedent.

IbogaProject

(4,347 posts)
8. Why did they stop running their own scools?
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 06:28 PM
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Didn't they go bankrupt after facing numerous verified child sex abuse claims?

electric_blue68

(21,221 posts)
11. STFU, BK...It's Not Anti-Catholic bigotry....
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 09:12 PM
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I'm an ex-Catholic I think I'd know.

Plus Our Founding Fathers always wanted separation of Church, and State.

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