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question everything

(50,154 posts)
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 01:28 PM Tuesday

Child damages $56M Rothko painting at Netherlands museum

April 28 (UPI) -- Dutch curators are considering "next steps" after a child damaged a $56 million painting by American artist Mark Rothko while visiting a museum in Rotterdam.

"The work by Rothko -- Grey, Orange on Maroon, No. 8 -- has suffered damage: a number of visible scratches in the unvarnished paint layer," a spokesperson at the Depot Boijmans Van Beuningen confirmed. "It happened because a child, in an unsupervised moment, touched the lower part of the work."

The painting from 1960 was being displayed at the museum's Depot as the main building undergoes renovations, which are expected to be completed in 2030.

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Restoration experts are currently working to determine the best course of action to repair the Rothko painting before it can be displayed again.

"We expect that the work will be able to be shown again in the future," the museum spokesperson told BBC. "Conservation expertise has been sought in the Netherlands and abroad. We are currently researching the next steps for the treatment of the painting."

Modern, unvarnished paintings are "particularly susceptible to damage," according to Sophie McAloone, conservation manager at the Fine Art Restoration Company.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/child-damages-56m-rothko-painting-232041257.html

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Child damages $56M Rothko painting at Netherlands museum (Original Post) question everything Tuesday OP
He was trying to put a mustache on it. marble falls Tuesday #1
I wouldnt pay $500 for that. Mosby Tuesday #2
Do you remember commercials from the 80s, I think EYESORE 9001 Tuesday #3
I remember that. My mom bought me the ugliest chair at a motel closing. underpants Tuesday #5
I do good to draw stick figures EYESORE 9001 Tuesday #27
How about if I added a banana? BoRaGard Tuesday #8
Only it its duct taped to the middle of the painting. Mosby Tuesday #16
Have you been in front of an actual Rothko? maxsolomon Tuesday #22
Actually i might have. Mosby Tuesday #26
In fairness genxlib Tuesday #4
The child made an improvement in my view....... Butterflylady Tuesday #6
How is this worth 56 million? JBTaurus83 Tuesday #7
Me either. I suspect the kid who damaged it could paint a new one for them. Vinca Tuesday #12
He couldn't. He won't. maxsolomon Tuesday #24
I love Rothkos and I love it when life happens to art; this story is catnip for me. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #9
Me too canetoad Tuesday #17
With you on this. I suspect Rothko would love this. yardwork Tuesday #18
somebody's parent is in trouble! FirstLight Tuesday #10
i've often wondered mopinko Tuesday #11
He didn't laugh all the way to the bank. maxsolomon Tuesday #25
sounds like a gross exaggeration. mopinko Tuesday #13
The way Rothko was explained to me (and I get it) is that he was more of an artist for artists. chowder66 Tuesday #14
Interesting question everything Tuesday #15
Painter/Artist/ Art History minor here Mossfern Tuesday #21
I liked his work before I knew any of that but appreciated it even more after I found out. chowder66 Tuesday #30
you break it, you buy it. miyazaki Tuesday #19
That looks like a piece that would be very easy to repair jmowreader Tuesday #20
Kid's fingernails can be like razors! maxsolomon Tuesday #23
If a child is able to get to a painting and damage it, what other works of art are in danger? And why are these works SWBTATTReg Tuesday #28
They're all in danger of the public. maxsolomon Tuesday #29
Museums wrestle with this all the time -- making art accessible while still protecting it. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #31

EYESORE 9001

(28,172 posts)
3. Do you remember commercials from the 80s, I think
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:14 PM
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Advertising ‘hotel-motel art shows’? Some of the most gawdawful ‘art’ - and all for retail prices too.

underpants

(190,261 posts)
5. I remember that. My mom bought me the ugliest chair at a motel closing.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:27 PM
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To me, art is something I can’t do. I could do that Rothko. As was explained to me by art students I worked with “but they thought of it”. Okay.

EYESORE 9001

(28,172 posts)
27. I do good to draw stick figures
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:03 PM
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There’s artistic talent in my family, but I didn’t inherit any. Guess when I was in queue to be reborn, I got in the wrong line and got fartistic ability instead.

Mosby

(18,423 posts)
16. Only it its duct taped to the middle of the painting.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 03:31 PM
Tuesday

That might raise the value to $1000.

maxsolomon

(36,456 posts)
22. Have you been in front of an actual Rothko?
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 04:44 PM
Tuesday

They make you feel like they're vibrating from within. Doesn't really come across in a photo, but they're some of the most spiritual AbEx paintings I've ever seen.

Mosby

(18,423 posts)
26. Actually i might have.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 04:56 PM
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When I was in San Francisco a long time ago I went to the MOMA there. I was most impressed by the Klee exhibit. I love his work.

genxlib

(5,886 posts)
4. In fairness
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:27 PM
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It looks like some of his own work because it looks like a child painted it.

I will never understand the "value" of some modern art. I guess I am just a philistine.

Butterflylady

(4,385 posts)
6. The child made an improvement in my view.......
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:34 PM
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All they have to do is paint another one. How hard is it to copy?

JBTaurus83

(299 posts)
7. How is this worth 56 million?
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:44 PM
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I love going to the art museums here in Philly, but, I will never understand this crap.

maxsolomon

(36,456 posts)
24. He couldn't. He won't.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 04:54 PM
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Last edited Tue Apr 29, 2025, 06:34 PM - Edit history (1)

I don't understand why the compunction to reject post-WW2 Abstract Expressionism.

It's the art of our Grandparents. Rothko was born 2 years before my Grandfather, in 1903. This painting is 65 years old.

canetoad

(18,965 posts)
17. Me too
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 03:45 PM
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We have one painting in the State gallery - Untitled (Red) and I become almost hypnotised by it. This thread is full of phillistines

FirstLight

(15,023 posts)
10. somebody's parent is in trouble!
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:48 PM
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Was it an American family...? lol


edit to add...

I see they aren't doxxing the parents/kid

It looks like a kid's painting, so maybe the kid was attracted to it ...

Seriously, some "art" is really stupid...

mopinko

(72,406 posts)
11. i've often wondered
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:49 PM
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if rothko laughed all the way to the bank. i DO appreciate his work, mostly. but i have no idea how some artists paint the same thing over, and over, and over.

mopinko

(72,406 posts)
13. sounds like a gross exaggeration.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 03:11 PM
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i’ve seen some incredibly damaged paintings restored. it’s not rocket science.
they dont even have to deal w 18th century pigments, etc. u can probably still buy his paints.

chowder66

(10,482 posts)
14. The way Rothko was explained to me (and I get it) is that he was more of an artist for artists.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 03:17 PM
Tuesday

His paintings have a lot to do with color balance and how colors can evoke moods. Many artists have been inspired by him.


This was explained to me by an art history teacher and an artist, separately. They went into more depth on him but that's all I can remember.

Mossfern

(3,745 posts)
21. Painter/Artist/ Art History minor here
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 04:43 PM
Tuesday

Your friend is correct.
My son texted to me a of Rothko drawing he liked the other day.
I can understand how people don't get his work.

chowder66

(10,482 posts)
30. I liked his work before I knew any of that but appreciated it even more after I found out.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 06:27 PM
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jmowreader

(52,214 posts)
20. That looks like a piece that would be very easy to repair
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 04:33 PM
Tuesday

Since this $56 million painting is three big solid-color rectangles, simply use a spectrophotometer to get you the exact color match of the area the kid screwed up, mix a little paint of the right shade, and spot-paint it.

Oh...and then put the thing behind UV-resistant glass so it doesn't happen again.

SWBTATTReg

(25,216 posts)
28. If a child is able to get to a painting and damage it, what other works of art are in danger? And why are these works
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:11 PM
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of art left out in the 'open', subject to any kind of possible danger?

Doesn't the needs of the many (to view the item in the future millions of times, behind a protective barrier vs. an unprotected barrier) count for something?

maxsolomon

(36,456 posts)
29. They're all in danger of the public.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:22 PM
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Very few are behind glass, and that's a good thing.

Docents do most of the shooing away. Some have pressure-sensitive plinths in front that go beep if you step on them.

WhiskeyGrinder

(24,768 posts)
31. Museums wrestle with this all the time -- making art accessible while still protecting it.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 06:35 PM
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Doesn't the needs of the many (to view the item in the future millions of times, behind a protective barrier vs. an unprotected barrier) count for something?


Do people have a right to view something as it exists in a certain context? A need?
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