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Dennis Donovan

(30,666 posts) Tue Apr 29, 2025, 12:29 PM Tuesday

Oliver Willis: time for Dems to pivot from Clinton "small govt" position and embrace FDR big govt doing great things

Oliver Willis
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this would be a great moment for democrats/liberals to pivot from bill clinton's bad and self-destructive "small government" positioning and fully embrace fdr/lincoln style "the federal government is big and does great things when it has good leaders" positioning

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Oliver Willis: time for Dems to pivot from Clinton "small govt" position and embrace FDR big govt doing great things (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Tuesday OP

I AGREE. They need to be FDR on steroids. And when the billionaires squeal.... CousinIT Tuesday #1

Totally agree but given DNC will not address the party platform until 2028, how do we do that? dutch777 Tuesday #2

Let's go Full Monte on Building our Society. delisen Tuesday #3

FDR was the founder of the modern Democratic Party thought crime Tuesday #4

FDR had very large majorities and a normal opposition party who'd be voted out if they didn't do something betsuni Tuesday #5

I always kind-of wonder----who are those 33% Ars Longa Tuesday #6

It's about frigging time ILikePie92 Tuesday #7

Fuck neoliberalism. aocommunalpunch Tuesday #8

CousinIT

(11,295 posts)

1. I AGREE. They need to be FDR on steroids. And when the billionaires squeal....

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Apr 29, 2025, 12:33 PM

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....WELCOME THEIR GODDAMNED HATRED.

GO. ON. OFFENSE.

dutch777

(4,365 posts)

2. Totally agree but given DNC will not address the party platform until 2028, how do we do that?

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Apr 29, 2025, 12:41 PM

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It is a bit of a double edged sword. FDR like programs likely will add to the deficit. I do think the national debt needs to be reduced significantly for our kids and grandkids and our place in the world economy and we need to take that issue away from the GOP. (not that they do anything with it other than beat us over the head with it). And I think there are ways to do both but the complexity of that linkage is not easy to explain in soundbites. Some of the younger/newer Dem reps that ran in 2024 have given voice to this while also acknowledging they have heard their constituents on inflation and other issues that are key to the average voter. As bad as Trump and the GOP is behaving, we have to listen and acknowledge the pain and worry many people are feeling, not be dismissive and be willing to prioritize, not just run against Trump the evil doer.

delisen

(6,965 posts)

3. Let's go Full Monte on Building our Society.

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Apr 29, 2025, 12:45 PM

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Strengthen our social nets, our public education, parks, environment, the arts, research. There is life beyond the MAGA whiners..

thought crime

(190 posts)

4. FDR was the founder of the modern Democratic Party

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Apr 29, 2025, 12:52 PM

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We should never turn away from his Social Democratic Ideals. And we should embrace Democratic Socialism as far as we can. Bernie & AOC are the thought leaders. We should follow. Green New Deal, Blue New Deal. New Deal!

betsuni

(27,846 posts)

5. FDR had very large majorities and a normal opposition party who'd be voted out if they didn't do something

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Apr 29, 2025, 12:54 PM

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about the Great Depression. Nothing like this century. An increasingly radical Republican Party controlled Congress six out of eight years of both Clinton and Obama administrations, two of Biden's.

But blame Bill Clinton!