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CitizenZero

(920 posts)
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 03:20 AM Tuesday

Fracture in the Military

Trump signed a sweeping Executive Order overreaching federal authority into State and Local law enforcement, including the possible use of federal military as law enforcement. This is illegal, but that has not stopped Trump so far.

If Trump orders the military to act as domestic police inside the country, it may cause a fracture in the military. Military are explicitly trained to not execute these kind of clearly illegal orders. There will be officers that know that these are legally questionable orders at best. They will have to make a choice. Support a dictator or stick to their oath and their honor. Malcolm Nance, retired Navy Chief and Intelligence Specialist, talks about this. If you are not familiar with him, he is worth watching. You can find his videos on YouTube and his writing on Substack.

Anyway, this is a dire situation that could lead to a Fascist Police State and a possible Civil Conflict. Also, there are probably some Blue State Governors that are not going to just roll over and take this. The Trump Regime is implying that they will arrest local authorities that do not comply. If the Trump Regime arrests an elected official, then it may be too late. They have already arrested a Judge as a test case. I would put nothing past these fascists.

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Fracture in the Military (Original Post) CitizenZero Tuesday OP
If the military holds, we may have a chance. Permanut Tuesday #1
Yes CitizenZero Tuesday #2
make a choice. Support a dictator or stick to their oath and their honor. elleng Tuesday #3
Malcolm Nance doesn't pull any punches. markodochartaigh Tuesday #4
He is Great CitizenZero Tuesday #5
Good Video CitizenZero Tuesday #6
I've been wondering where Michael Flynn was. Haggard Celine Tuesday #7
Me too CitizenZero Tuesday #10
Project 2025, Chapter 4 Aviation Pro Tuesday #8
America needs a modern day Major General Smedley Butler LiberalLovinLug Tuesday #9
Thank you for this red alert stollen Tuesday #11
Check Out The Video At The Link CitizenZero Tuesday #12
Here is the NY Times Article on Yesterday's Executive Orders CitizenZero Tuesday #13
I live in a very small town in northern NJ. no_hypocrisy Tuesday #14
Short Mediaite Article On Trump Military Law Enforcement Order CitizenZero Tuesday #15
he thinks mopinko Tuesday #16
I don't share your faith in the Military edhopper Tuesday #17

elleng

(139,328 posts)
3. make a choice. Support a dictator or stick to their oath and their honor.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 03:42 AM
Tuesday

GUESS who prevails, and it ain't the dictator.

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
6. Good Video
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 04:34 AM
Tuesday

Here is another from the Chief on the economy and why the world now hates us--

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Haggard Celine

(17,174 posts)
7. I've been wondering where Michael Flynn was.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:02 AM
Tuesday

He's probably been quietly assembling his own army that will do what he or Trump tells them to. I don't think Flynn has retired.

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
10. Me too
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:18 AM
Tuesday

I was just reading about Flynn in one of Malcolm Nance's books. I hate Michael Flynn with a passion. He is a traitor to the country. There is nothing worse than a bad cop except maybe a traitor soldier, which is what Flynn is. The whole Trump Regime has been too quiet on the military. I expect a domestic military mobilization is their end game and that is why the Army and the DOD has been so quiet. They do not want to telegraph their final move. I half expect Flynn to suddenly appear just when they make their move and send the military into Blue Cities. On the other hand, I really believe that if Trump tries something like this, there will be a large resistance and response in the military. A fracture in the military, as I say. So I am with you. I am very suspicious as to the whereabouts of the traitor Flynn.

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
12. Check Out The Video At The Link
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:50 AM
Tuesday

Rachel Maddow just did a segment on military overreach at the southern border and how the Trump Regime has taken the extraordinary step of calling much of the southern border a military base. Since it is a military base, the military can legally search and seize anyone that trespasses there. So this, to me, is an obvious precursor to using the military domestically in the interior of the country. The video is at the link--https://www.democraticunderground.com/132147411

no_hypocrisy

(51,378 posts)
14. I live in a very small town in northern NJ.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 06:19 AM
Tuesday

It's 11 blocks by 17 blocks.

The local police hold the community together. And the community is 80% immigrants.

Having an incursion of federal military for unnecessary "peace-keeping" and arrests would likely fracture this community.

mopinko

(72,395 posts)
16. he thinks
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:23 AM
Tuesday

as long as he has generals that will do as they’re told, he can command the whole military. he better b wrong.
in his 1st term, he did his best to run out anyone there loyal to their oath. i’ve told this story b4, but my nephew was an asst sec def who was harassed out in 2018. sent a guy named john rood, who’s title was policy advisor, but his job was to weed out the actual patriots there.

edhopper

(35,863 posts)
17. I don't share your faith in the Military
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:49 AM
Tuesday

especially since they are replacing the entire senior staff with Trump loyalists.

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