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struggle4progress

(123,039 posts)
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 02:22 PM Monday

Thoughts on the Arrest of Judge Hannah Dugan (emptywheel)

... Flores-Ruiz appears to have gone, via back hallways, to the same sixth floor public hallway via which he had entered the court room. According the complaint, both DEA officers saw Flores-Ruiz in the public hallway before he entered the elevator ...

Rather than arresting Flores-Ruiz, whom the officers knew was unarmed, there on the sixth floor, one of them rode down the elevator with him and his attorney and the other alerted the other officers. Four of them convened outside of the courthouse and chased him down the street and arrested him ...

Both Pam Bondi and Stephen Miller also made comments that arguably violate rules prohibiting comments that prejudice a proceeding ...

For obstruction, it will be contested whether an immigration removal counts as an investigative proceeding. For concealment, it will be contested whether the administrative warrant qualifies, and whether directing Flores-Ruiz via a back hallway to the very same public hallway where the officers had planned to arrest him and had a chance to arrest him amounts to concealment ...

https://www.emptywheel.net/2025/04/27/some-thoughts-on-the-arrest-of-judge-hannah-dugan/

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Karadeniz

(24,288 posts)
1. We need some new criteria for dismissing lawsuits. Obviously manufactured.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 02:31 PM
Monday

Stupidity that doesn't rise to most basic sense of justice. Do you want me to rule on this and report you to the bar or forget this ever happened?

regnaD kciN

(27,005 posts)
3. Unfortunately, this isn't a lawsuit...
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 03:16 PM
Monday

It’s a criminal proceeding that could land the judge behind bars for literally decades.

struggle4progress

(123,039 posts)
4. ... the campaign against judges ... are already a matter of judicial record... DOJ didn't even bother
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 03:34 PM
Monday

convening a grand jury to find out whether there’s any evidence that Judge Dugan had corrupt intent before arresting her ... and ginning up an even bigger media storm ... Maybe they’ll find it as they move to indict her ...But until they actually look for evidence of corrupt intent, this is a media campaign against the judiciary, not a criminal prosecution ...

https://www.emptywheel.net/2025/04/27/some-thoughts-on-the-arrest-of-judge-hannah-dugan/

LetMyPeopleVote

(162,428 posts)
5. Judge Dugan was arrested without presenting case to grand jury-this was a stunt to whip MAGA faithful into a frenzy
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 06:34 PM
Monday

I am a corporate lawyer but I do know basic federal criminal procedure. Judge Dugan was arrested on a magistrate warrant and the case had NOT been presented to a grand jury. Before this case can go to trial, this case has to be presented to and voted on by a grand jury. The arrest on Friday was a stunt to "whip the MAGA faithful into a frenzy." One can arrest a suspect without a grand jury indictment but normally there has to be good reason for such arrest
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lnuuhqajbk2j

New in PN: Arresting judges is a 5-alarm escalation

"It’s not just that Dugan was arrested, but how she was arrested. The whole point was to cause a scene. There’s no allegation she was attempting to evade arrest, but the FBI still forced a sitting judge to do a perp walk at her place of work."



https://www.publicnotice.co/p/trump-bondi-arresting-judges-hannah-dugan

It’s not just that Dugan was arrested, but also how she was arrested. The whole point was to cause a scene. She was arrested Friday morning in the parking lot of the Milwaukee County Courthouse, complete with handcuffs. There’s no allegation she was a flight risk or was attempting to evade arrest, but the FBI still forced a sitting judge to do a perp walk at her place of work.

Additionally, Dugan was arrested pursuant to a criminal complaint signed by a federal magistrate judge. There’s nothing improper about that as such, but for felonies in federal court, prosecutors must convene a grand jury and present evidence. Only if the grand jury returns an indictment can someone be prosecuted.

Going before a grand jury isn’t a nicety or a minor procedural step. The Fifth Amendment requires it. Arresting Dugan before convening a grand jury was intended to get flashy headlines and whip the MAGA faithful into a frenzy. Even if a grand jury declines to indict Dugan, the administration has succeeded in creating a climate of fear and suspicion.

Recall that although Trump faced 88 charges in four criminal cases for much worse things than what Dugan is accused of, he was always charged by indictment after presentation to a grand jury and allowed to turn himself in. Here he is in Georgia, where he faced 13 felony counts for trying to overturn the 202 election. Here he is in New York, where he faced — and was convicted of — 34 felonies related to falsifying business records to hide his hush payments to Stormy Daniels. New York state was so solicitous of Trump that he didn’t even have to have his mug shot taken. When he voluntarily surrendered in Miami for the classified documents case, he wasn’t handcuffed.,,,,,

It will be interesting to see a grand jury would indict this judge on the actual facts

One hurdle prosecutors might have in securing an indictment against Dugan was that ICE had an administrative warrant, not a judicial warrant, for Flores-Ruiz. The criminal complaint obscures this, referring only to a “warrant” or an “arrest warrant” in most places. The only time an administrative warrant is mentioned is when the complaint quotes Dugan saying it.

As much as the administration would like it to be otherwise, those administrative warrants aren’t the same as judicial warrants. Judicial warrants are signed by a federal or state judge or magistrate and must be complied with as long as they are valid. Administrative warrants — also known as immigration warrants — are issued by administrative agencies such as ICE and signed by an immigration judge. Despite also being called judges, immigration judges are not part of the judicial branch. They are appointed by the attorney general and are part of the executive branch.

I wonder if this case will ever be presented to a grand jury,

Initech

(104,639 posts)
6. MAGA has crossed the line that should not be crossed.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 08:01 PM
Monday

When you arrest judges for not kissing the fucking asshole's worthless, slimy ass enough, that's crossing a line.

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